OT – Illegal’s, Arizona, and Obama…

[briansd1]

[quote=KSMountain]Grandview in Leucadia…
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/jul/06/panga-lands-leucadia-15-illegal-suspects-held/
[/quote]

An SB1070 type law would do nothing to stop such immigration.

In this case, existing laws and enforcement did the job quite well.

[KSMountain]

[quote=briansd1][quote=KSMountain]Grandview in Leucadia…
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/jul/06/panga-lands-leucadia-15-illegal-suspects-held/
[/quote]

An SB1070 type law would do nothing to stop such immigration.

In this case, existing laws and enforcement did the job quite well.[/quote]

Ah, but those were just the boats we detected…

Let’s play this scenario out a bit:
Say the city of Del Mar was having an issue, and decided to have policemen question anyone coming ashore by boat after midnight.

Would that policy be unconstitutional?

If not, what makes 1070 different?

[KSMountain]

[quote=briansd1][quote=KSMountain]Grandview in Leucadia…
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/jul/06/panga-lands-leucadia-15-illegal-suspects-held/
[/quote]

An SB1070 type law would do nothing to stop such immigration.

In this case, existing laws and enforcement did the job quite well.[/quote]

Ah, but those were just the boats we detected…

Let’s play this scenario out a bit:
Say the city of Del Mar was having an issue, and decided to have policemen question anyone coming ashore by boat after midnight.

Would that policy be unconstitutional?

If not, what makes 1070 different?

[KSMountain]

[quote=briansd1][quote=KSMountain]Grandview in Leucadia…
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/jul/06/panga-lands-leucadia-15-illegal-suspects-held/
[/quote]

An SB1070 type law would do nothing to stop such immigration.

In this case, existing laws and enforcement did the job quite well.[/quote]

Ah, but those were just the boats we detected…

Let’s play this scenario out a bit:
Say the city of Del Mar was having an issue, and decided to have policemen question anyone coming ashore by boat after midnight.

Would that policy be unconstitutional?

If not, what makes 1070 different?

[KSMountain]

[quote=briansd1][quote=KSMountain]Grandview in Leucadia…
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/jul/06/panga-lands-leucadia-15-illegal-suspects-held/
[/quote]

An SB1070 type law would do nothing to stop such immigration.

In this case, existing laws and enforcement did the job quite well.[/quote]

Ah, but those were just the boats we detected…

Let’s play this scenario out a bit:
Say the city of Del Mar was having an issue, and decided to have policemen question anyone coming ashore by boat after midnight.

Would that policy be unconstitutional?

If not, what makes 1070 different?

[KSMountain]

[quote=briansd1][quote=KSMountain]Grandview in Leucadia…
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/jul/06/panga-lands-leucadia-15-illegal-suspects-held/
[/quote]

An SB1070 type law would do nothing to stop such immigration.

In this case, existing laws and enforcement did the job quite well.[/quote]

Ah, but those were just the boats we detected…

Let’s play this scenario out a bit:
Say the city of Del Mar was having an issue, and decided to have policemen question anyone coming ashore by boat after midnight.

Would that policy be unconstitutional?

If not, what makes 1070 different?

[sd_matt]

[quote=KSMountain][quote=briansd1][quote=KSMountain]Grandview in Leucadia…
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/jul/06/panga-lands-leucadia-15-illegal-suspects-held/
[/quote]

An SB1070 type law would do nothing to stop such immigration.

In this case, existing laws and enforcement did the job quite well.[/quote]

Ah, but those were just the boats we detected…

Let’s play this scenario out a bit:
Say the city of Del Mar was having an issue, and decided to have policemen question anyone coming ashore by boat after midnight.

Would that policy be unconstitutional?

If not, what makes 1070 different?[/quote]

Since it’s the role of the Feds to protect us from seaborne invaders, this would go to court.

[sd_matt]

[quote=KSMountain][quote=briansd1][quote=KSMountain]Grandview in Leucadia…
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/jul/06/panga-lands-leucadia-15-illegal-suspects-held/
[/quote]

An SB1070 type law would do nothing to stop such immigration.

In this case, existing laws and enforcement did the job quite well.[/quote]

Ah, but those were just the boats we detected…

Let’s play this scenario out a bit:
Say the city of Del Mar was having an issue, and decided to have policemen question anyone coming ashore by boat after midnight.

Would that policy be unconstitutional?

If not, what makes 1070 different?[/quote]

Since it’s the role of the Feds to protect us from seaborne invaders, this would go to court.

[sd_matt]

[quote=KSMountain][quote=briansd1][quote=KSMountain]Grandview in Leucadia…
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/jul/06/panga-lands-leucadia-15-illegal-suspects-held/
[/quote]

An SB1070 type law would do nothing to stop such immigration.

In this case, existing laws and enforcement did the job quite well.[/quote]

Ah, but those were just the boats we detected…

Let’s play this scenario out a bit:
Say the city of Del Mar was having an issue, and decided to have policemen question anyone coming ashore by boat after midnight.

Would that policy be unconstitutional?

If not, what makes 1070 different?[/quote]

Since it’s the role of the Feds to protect us from seaborne invaders, this would go to court.

[sd_matt]

[quote=KSMountain][quote=briansd1][quote=KSMountain]Grandview in Leucadia…
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/jul/06/panga-lands-leucadia-15-illegal-suspects-held/
[/quote]

An SB1070 type law would do nothing to stop such immigration.

In this case, existing laws and enforcement did the job quite well.[/quote]

Ah, but those were just the boats we detected…

Let’s play this scenario out a bit:
Say the city of Del Mar was having an issue, and decided to have policemen question anyone coming ashore by boat after midnight.

Would that policy be unconstitutional?

If not, what makes 1070 different?[/quote]

Since it’s the role of the Feds to protect us from seaborne invaders, this would go to court.

[sd_matt]

[quote=KSMountain][quote=briansd1][quote=KSMountain]Grandview in Leucadia…
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/jul/06/panga-lands-leucadia-15-illegal-suspects-held/
[/quote]

An SB1070 type law would do nothing to stop such immigration.

In this case, existing laws and enforcement did the job quite well.[/quote]

Ah, but those were just the boats we detected…

Let’s play this scenario out a bit:
Say the city of Del Mar was having an issue, and decided to have policemen question anyone coming ashore by boat after midnight.

Would that policy be unconstitutional?

If not, what makes 1070 different?[/quote]

Since it’s the role of the Feds to protect us from seaborne invaders, this would go to court.

[KSMountain]

But wait. I live near the beach and I see police cars every night come and kick people out to close down the beach after 10.

That is evidently constitutional.

Would they not be able to talk to people who arrived by boat after 12?

What if the cops suspected they were carrying dope? Are they allowed to search the boat?

Would we have to say, “They couldn’t stop a boat with a sufficiently large group of people, because that is clearly an immigration-related action the local police can’t take”.

But what if it’s human trafficking, and the people aren’t even willing passengers?

Don’t the police in that case have an obligation to protect the exploited?

Also how should we deal with a case where both people and drugs are being transported in the same panga…

[KSMountain]

But wait. I live near the beach and I see police cars every night come and kick people out to close down the beach after 10.

That is evidently constitutional.

Would they not be able to talk to people who arrived by boat after 12?

What if the cops suspected they were carrying dope? Are they allowed to search the boat?

Would we have to say, “They couldn’t stop a boat with a sufficiently large group of people, because that is clearly an immigration-related action the local police can’t take”.

But what if it’s human trafficking, and the people aren’t even willing passengers?

Don’t the police in that case have an obligation to protect the exploited?

Also how should we deal with a case where both people and drugs are being transported in the same panga…

[KSMountain]

But wait. I live near the beach and I see police cars every night come and kick people out to close down the beach after 10.

That is evidently constitutional.

Would they not be able to talk to people who arrived by boat after 12?

What if the cops suspected they were carrying dope? Are they allowed to search the boat?

Would we have to say, “They couldn’t stop a boat with a sufficiently large group of people, because that is clearly an immigration-related action the local police can’t take”.

But what if it’s human trafficking, and the people aren’t even willing passengers?

Don’t the police in that case have an obligation to protect the exploited?

Also how should we deal with a case where both people and drugs are being transported in the same panga…

[KSMountain]

But wait. I live near the beach and I see police cars every night come and kick people out to close down the beach after 10.

That is evidently constitutional.

Would they not be able to talk to people who arrived by boat after 12?

What if the cops suspected they were carrying dope? Are they allowed to search the boat?

Would we have to say, “They couldn’t stop a boat with a sufficiently large group of people, because that is clearly an immigration-related action the local police can’t take”.

But what if it’s human trafficking, and the people aren’t even willing passengers?

Don’t the police in that case have an obligation to protect the exploited?

Also how should we deal with a case where both people and drugs are being transported in the same panga…

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