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August 18, 2011 at 8:50 AM #721965August 18, 2011 at 8:59 AM #720763anParticipant
CAR and JP, you two miss read my post. I’m pro choice for cases where it would harm the mother. So, we are in agreement there. The cases I’m talking about is your average run of the mill abortion. I now understand why people are pro-life. If you view life is at the point of conception, then abortion = murder. It’s as simple as that. We punish parents for abusing their kids, yet we’re allow parents to kill their fetus? That’s how the pro-lifer views it.
I know death penalty and abortion are different topic. I know that there are pro lifer who are anti death penalty and pro choicer who are pro death penalty. I just find it funny when pro choicer are against death penalty and pro lifer who are pro death penalty.
Bringing this back to Ron Paul, he did say that although he’s against Roe v Wade, he believes the punishments should be determined by the states and not the federal government. So, you wouldn’t have to go to Mexico to have abortion, just states who have no punishment for it (CA/NY?).
August 18, 2011 at 8:59 AM #720854anParticipantCAR and JP, you two miss read my post. I’m pro choice for cases where it would harm the mother. So, we are in agreement there. The cases I’m talking about is your average run of the mill abortion. I now understand why people are pro-life. If you view life is at the point of conception, then abortion = murder. It’s as simple as that. We punish parents for abusing their kids, yet we’re allow parents to kill their fetus? That’s how the pro-lifer views it.
I know death penalty and abortion are different topic. I know that there are pro lifer who are anti death penalty and pro choicer who are pro death penalty. I just find it funny when pro choicer are against death penalty and pro lifer who are pro death penalty.
Bringing this back to Ron Paul, he did say that although he’s against Roe v Wade, he believes the punishments should be determined by the states and not the federal government. So, you wouldn’t have to go to Mexico to have abortion, just states who have no punishment for it (CA/NY?).
August 18, 2011 at 8:59 AM #721455anParticipantCAR and JP, you two miss read my post. I’m pro choice for cases where it would harm the mother. So, we are in agreement there. The cases I’m talking about is your average run of the mill abortion. I now understand why people are pro-life. If you view life is at the point of conception, then abortion = murder. It’s as simple as that. We punish parents for abusing their kids, yet we’re allow parents to kill their fetus? That’s how the pro-lifer views it.
I know death penalty and abortion are different topic. I know that there are pro lifer who are anti death penalty and pro choicer who are pro death penalty. I just find it funny when pro choicer are against death penalty and pro lifer who are pro death penalty.
Bringing this back to Ron Paul, he did say that although he’s against Roe v Wade, he believes the punishments should be determined by the states and not the federal government. So, you wouldn’t have to go to Mexico to have abortion, just states who have no punishment for it (CA/NY?).
August 18, 2011 at 8:59 AM #721613anParticipantCAR and JP, you two miss read my post. I’m pro choice for cases where it would harm the mother. So, we are in agreement there. The cases I’m talking about is your average run of the mill abortion. I now understand why people are pro-life. If you view life is at the point of conception, then abortion = murder. It’s as simple as that. We punish parents for abusing their kids, yet we’re allow parents to kill their fetus? That’s how the pro-lifer views it.
I know death penalty and abortion are different topic. I know that there are pro lifer who are anti death penalty and pro choicer who are pro death penalty. I just find it funny when pro choicer are against death penalty and pro lifer who are pro death penalty.
Bringing this back to Ron Paul, he did say that although he’s against Roe v Wade, he believes the punishments should be determined by the states and not the federal government. So, you wouldn’t have to go to Mexico to have abortion, just states who have no punishment for it (CA/NY?).
August 18, 2011 at 8:59 AM #721975anParticipantCAR and JP, you two miss read my post. I’m pro choice for cases where it would harm the mother. So, we are in agreement there. The cases I’m talking about is your average run of the mill abortion. I now understand why people are pro-life. If you view life is at the point of conception, then abortion = murder. It’s as simple as that. We punish parents for abusing their kids, yet we’re allow parents to kill their fetus? That’s how the pro-lifer views it.
I know death penalty and abortion are different topic. I know that there are pro lifer who are anti death penalty and pro choicer who are pro death penalty. I just find it funny when pro choicer are against death penalty and pro lifer who are pro death penalty.
Bringing this back to Ron Paul, he did say that although he’s against Roe v Wade, he believes the punishments should be determined by the states and not the federal government. So, you wouldn’t have to go to Mexico to have abortion, just states who have no punishment for it (CA/NY?).
August 18, 2011 at 9:00 AM #720772anParticipant[quote=DomoArigato][quote=AN]
I always find it funny that those who are pro choice tend to be anti death penalty and those who are pro life tend to be pro death penalty.[/quote]I always find it funny how people who are supposedly ‘pro life’ couldn’t give two shits about the 20+% of kids in the U.S. who are living in poverty. How many kids have you adopted?
The GOP uses ‘pro life’ as way to get clueless Evangelicals to vote for them. Their main goal is tax cuts and subsidiaries for the top 0.1%.[/quote]
I find that funny too.August 18, 2011 at 9:00 AM #720864anParticipant[quote=DomoArigato][quote=AN]
I always find it funny that those who are pro choice tend to be anti death penalty and those who are pro life tend to be pro death penalty.[/quote]I always find it funny how people who are supposedly ‘pro life’ couldn’t give two shits about the 20+% of kids in the U.S. who are living in poverty. How many kids have you adopted?
The GOP uses ‘pro life’ as way to get clueless Evangelicals to vote for them. Their main goal is tax cuts and subsidiaries for the top 0.1%.[/quote]
I find that funny too.August 18, 2011 at 9:00 AM #721465anParticipant[quote=DomoArigato][quote=AN]
I always find it funny that those who are pro choice tend to be anti death penalty and those who are pro life tend to be pro death penalty.[/quote]I always find it funny how people who are supposedly ‘pro life’ couldn’t give two shits about the 20+% of kids in the U.S. who are living in poverty. How many kids have you adopted?
The GOP uses ‘pro life’ as way to get clueless Evangelicals to vote for them. Their main goal is tax cuts and subsidiaries for the top 0.1%.[/quote]
I find that funny too.August 18, 2011 at 9:00 AM #721623anParticipant[quote=DomoArigato][quote=AN]
I always find it funny that those who are pro choice tend to be anti death penalty and those who are pro life tend to be pro death penalty.[/quote]I always find it funny how people who are supposedly ‘pro life’ couldn’t give two shits about the 20+% of kids in the U.S. who are living in poverty. How many kids have you adopted?
The GOP uses ‘pro life’ as way to get clueless Evangelicals to vote for them. Their main goal is tax cuts and subsidiaries for the top 0.1%.[/quote]
I find that funny too.August 18, 2011 at 9:00 AM #721985anParticipant[quote=DomoArigato][quote=AN]
I always find it funny that those who are pro choice tend to be anti death penalty and those who are pro life tend to be pro death penalty.[/quote]I always find it funny how people who are supposedly ‘pro life’ couldn’t give two shits about the 20+% of kids in the U.S. who are living in poverty. How many kids have you adopted?
The GOP uses ‘pro life’ as way to get clueless Evangelicals to vote for them. Their main goal is tax cuts and subsidiaries for the top 0.1%.[/quote]
I find that funny too.August 18, 2011 at 9:09 AM #720787jpinpbParticipantAN – No where does RP say he would allow abortion in health circumstances requiring it. He is against Roe V Wade. Period. In fact, he says the opposite, that he’s never seen a situation where it’s justified. Right there, he loses credibility on so many other issues, b/c I have to question his facts. Perhaps he was lucky enough to treat extremely healthy women. In any case, I do not want to digress and go totally off topic.
A woman should not have to leave the country or state. A woman who has some health issues that would cause her to have an abortion means she should be able to go to the nearest hospital and have that procedure done as quickly as possible.
Perhaps RP would feel better if there were more women graves than fetuses. If only we could send him back in time, or maybe to countries w/subpar healthcare where a pregnant woman has one step in the grave.
I would not wish on any woman to have to go through an abortion. More importantly, I would not want a woman to have do it illegally.
And if you know that death penalty and abortion are different topics, why interject it in the first place?
August 18, 2011 at 9:09 AM #720879jpinpbParticipantAN – No where does RP say he would allow abortion in health circumstances requiring it. He is against Roe V Wade. Period. In fact, he says the opposite, that he’s never seen a situation where it’s justified. Right there, he loses credibility on so many other issues, b/c I have to question his facts. Perhaps he was lucky enough to treat extremely healthy women. In any case, I do not want to digress and go totally off topic.
A woman should not have to leave the country or state. A woman who has some health issues that would cause her to have an abortion means she should be able to go to the nearest hospital and have that procedure done as quickly as possible.
Perhaps RP would feel better if there were more women graves than fetuses. If only we could send him back in time, or maybe to countries w/subpar healthcare where a pregnant woman has one step in the grave.
I would not wish on any woman to have to go through an abortion. More importantly, I would not want a woman to have do it illegally.
And if you know that death penalty and abortion are different topics, why interject it in the first place?
August 18, 2011 at 9:09 AM #721480jpinpbParticipantAN – No where does RP say he would allow abortion in health circumstances requiring it. He is against Roe V Wade. Period. In fact, he says the opposite, that he’s never seen a situation where it’s justified. Right there, he loses credibility on so many other issues, b/c I have to question his facts. Perhaps he was lucky enough to treat extremely healthy women. In any case, I do not want to digress and go totally off topic.
A woman should not have to leave the country or state. A woman who has some health issues that would cause her to have an abortion means she should be able to go to the nearest hospital and have that procedure done as quickly as possible.
Perhaps RP would feel better if there were more women graves than fetuses. If only we could send him back in time, or maybe to countries w/subpar healthcare where a pregnant woman has one step in the grave.
I would not wish on any woman to have to go through an abortion. More importantly, I would not want a woman to have do it illegally.
And if you know that death penalty and abortion are different topics, why interject it in the first place?
August 18, 2011 at 9:09 AM #721638jpinpbParticipantAN – No where does RP say he would allow abortion in health circumstances requiring it. He is against Roe V Wade. Period. In fact, he says the opposite, that he’s never seen a situation where it’s justified. Right there, he loses credibility on so many other issues, b/c I have to question his facts. Perhaps he was lucky enough to treat extremely healthy women. In any case, I do not want to digress and go totally off topic.
A woman should not have to leave the country or state. A woman who has some health issues that would cause her to have an abortion means she should be able to go to the nearest hospital and have that procedure done as quickly as possible.
Perhaps RP would feel better if there were more women graves than fetuses. If only we could send him back in time, or maybe to countries w/subpar healthcare where a pregnant woman has one step in the grave.
I would not wish on any woman to have to go through an abortion. More importantly, I would not want a woman to have do it illegally.
And if you know that death penalty and abortion are different topics, why interject it in the first place?
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