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  • May 19, 2011 at 5:53 PM #698334
    bearishgurl
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    [quote=jpinpb]… Also, not discussed here, but men aren’t the only ones who corner the market on cheating. I imagine the maid could’ve been afraid of retaliation, losing her job, etc, but she could’ve said no. It would seem she had no problem being w/a married man. Vows sometimes mean nothing to women, either…[/quote]

    My understanding from one of those online gossip rags was that the maid in this case was married to another while bearing the guvenator’s child. She even told the hospital her husband was the father. The gossip rag posted a copy of this child’s (redacted) LA County birth certificate with the father and mother’s names on it. It also stated she was not a live-in maid. She lived with her husband and children at the time in LA County. The guvenator and his family also lived in LA County at the time.

    May 20, 2011 at 6:37 AM #697286
    njtosd
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    [quote=davelj]Many men (and women – but I’m going to focus on men here) want to have their cake and eat it too. They enter into marriage because they want kids and the stability of a wife-partner. But they have no intention of being faithful. [/quote]

    I think the point that you’re making is that people, men and women both, routinely mislead others for their own gain. There really isn’t any surprise there . . . Famous examples are Bernie Madoff, Martha Stewart and Barry Bonds, but it can be seen everywhere. And I wouldn’t take your friends’ experiences as being average. I assume that you are single, and it is pretty well accepted that married guys who want to hang out at the bar with their single friends are more interested in having an affair. In fact – they might be misleading YOU – saying they want to hang out at the bar with you when what they really want is cover for hanging out at the bar to meet women :). Just kidding, but it kind of makes you think . . .

    May 20, 2011 at 6:37 AM #697375
    njtosd
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    [quote=davelj]Many men (and women – but I’m going to focus on men here) want to have their cake and eat it too. They enter into marriage because they want kids and the stability of a wife-partner. But they have no intention of being faithful. [/quote]

    I think the point that you’re making is that people, men and women both, routinely mislead others for their own gain. There really isn’t any surprise there . . . Famous examples are Bernie Madoff, Martha Stewart and Barry Bonds, but it can be seen everywhere. And I wouldn’t take your friends’ experiences as being average. I assume that you are single, and it is pretty well accepted that married guys who want to hang out at the bar with their single friends are more interested in having an affair. In fact – they might be misleading YOU – saying they want to hang out at the bar with you when what they really want is cover for hanging out at the bar to meet women :). Just kidding, but it kind of makes you think . . .

    May 20, 2011 at 6:37 AM #697972
    njtosd
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    [quote=davelj]Many men (and women – but I’m going to focus on men here) want to have their cake and eat it too. They enter into marriage because they want kids and the stability of a wife-partner. But they have no intention of being faithful. [/quote]

    I think the point that you’re making is that people, men and women both, routinely mislead others for their own gain. There really isn’t any surprise there . . . Famous examples are Bernie Madoff, Martha Stewart and Barry Bonds, but it can be seen everywhere. And I wouldn’t take your friends’ experiences as being average. I assume that you are single, and it is pretty well accepted that married guys who want to hang out at the bar with their single friends are more interested in having an affair. In fact – they might be misleading YOU – saying they want to hang out at the bar with you when what they really want is cover for hanging out at the bar to meet women :). Just kidding, but it kind of makes you think . . .

    May 20, 2011 at 6:37 AM #698118
    njtosd
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    [quote=davelj]Many men (and women – but I’m going to focus on men here) want to have their cake and eat it too. They enter into marriage because they want kids and the stability of a wife-partner. But they have no intention of being faithful. [/quote]

    I think the point that you’re making is that people, men and women both, routinely mislead others for their own gain. There really isn’t any surprise there . . . Famous examples are Bernie Madoff, Martha Stewart and Barry Bonds, but it can be seen everywhere. And I wouldn’t take your friends’ experiences as being average. I assume that you are single, and it is pretty well accepted that married guys who want to hang out at the bar with their single friends are more interested in having an affair. In fact – they might be misleading YOU – saying they want to hang out at the bar with you when what they really want is cover for hanging out at the bar to meet women :). Just kidding, but it kind of makes you think . . .

    May 20, 2011 at 6:37 AM #698474
    njtosd
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    [quote=davelj]Many men (and women – but I’m going to focus on men here) want to have their cake and eat it too. They enter into marriage because they want kids and the stability of a wife-partner. But they have no intention of being faithful. [/quote]

    I think the point that you’re making is that people, men and women both, routinely mislead others for their own gain. There really isn’t any surprise there . . . Famous examples are Bernie Madoff, Martha Stewart and Barry Bonds, but it can be seen everywhere. And I wouldn’t take your friends’ experiences as being average. I assume that you are single, and it is pretty well accepted that married guys who want to hang out at the bar with their single friends are more interested in having an affair. In fact – they might be misleading YOU – saying they want to hang out at the bar with you when what they really want is cover for hanging out at the bar to meet women :). Just kidding, but it kind of makes you think . . .

    May 20, 2011 at 8:32 AM #697306
    scaredyclassic
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    What are you trying to say Brian? That a horse and carriage no longer go together. That’s outlandish. A horse and a carriage are a very good match.

    May 20, 2011 at 8:32 AM #697395
    scaredyclassic
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    What are you trying to say Brian? That a horse and carriage no longer go together. That’s outlandish. A horse and a carriage are a very good match.

    May 20, 2011 at 8:32 AM #697992
    scaredyclassic
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    What are you trying to say Brian? That a horse and carriage no longer go together. That’s outlandish. A horse and a carriage are a very good match.

    May 20, 2011 at 8:32 AM #698138
    scaredyclassic
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    What are you trying to say Brian? That a horse and carriage no longer go together. That’s outlandish. A horse and a carriage are a very good match.

    May 20, 2011 at 8:32 AM #698494
    scaredyclassic
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    What are you trying to say Brian? That a horse and carriage no longer go together. That’s outlandish. A horse and a carriage are a very good match.

    May 20, 2011 at 8:39 AM #697311
    Jazzman
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    Wasn’t it their daughter who said, nothing happens without a reason, or words to that effect. Not sure what to read into that? I don’t see why the rich, famous and powerful are any different to the rest of us in this respect. That they have to operate in tighter circles is a given. The fact it appears to have been so well concealed is obviously because the Pakistani government, or secret service was involved.

    The point is men grab opportunities, because unlike women they can’t create them.

    May 20, 2011 at 8:39 AM #697400
    Jazzman
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    Wasn’t it their daughter who said, nothing happens without a reason, or words to that effect. Not sure what to read into that? I don’t see why the rich, famous and powerful are any different to the rest of us in this respect. That they have to operate in tighter circles is a given. The fact it appears to have been so well concealed is obviously because the Pakistani government, or secret service was involved.

    The point is men grab opportunities, because unlike women they can’t create them.

    May 20, 2011 at 8:39 AM #697997
    Jazzman
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    Wasn’t it their daughter who said, nothing happens without a reason, or words to that effect. Not sure what to read into that? I don’t see why the rich, famous and powerful are any different to the rest of us in this respect. That they have to operate in tighter circles is a given. The fact it appears to have been so well concealed is obviously because the Pakistani government, or secret service was involved.

    The point is men grab opportunities, because unlike women they can’t create them.

    May 20, 2011 at 8:39 AM #698143
    Jazzman
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    Wasn’t it their daughter who said, nothing happens without a reason, or words to that effect. Not sure what to read into that? I don’t see why the rich, famous and powerful are any different to the rest of us in this respect. That they have to operate in tighter circles is a given. The fact it appears to have been so well concealed is obviously because the Pakistani government, or secret service was involved.

    The point is men grab opportunities, because unlike women they can’t create them.

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