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May 27, 2011 at 12:53 PM #700608May 27, 2011 at 2:13 PM #699456NotCrankyParticipant
[quote=briansd1]If your spouse divorces you for somebody else, would you take her/him back later?
What does it say about your own character and her character?[/quote]
In the real world people of fairly decent character do make mistakes or get offtrack. It’s easy to say this could never happen to me from the sidelines. How do we know that a life of being single after a trial and failure doesn’t represent a lack of character(or balls)? Not that this scenario you pose ever happened to me, but I think forgiveness could be part of the reconciliation. There is no lack of character in that.May 27, 2011 at 2:13 PM #699552NotCrankyParticipant[quote=briansd1]If your spouse divorces you for somebody else, would you take her/him back later?
What does it say about your own character and her character?[/quote]
In the real world people of fairly decent character do make mistakes or get offtrack. It’s easy to say this could never happen to me from the sidelines. How do we know that a life of being single after a trial and failure doesn’t represent a lack of character(or balls)? Not that this scenario you pose ever happened to me, but I think forgiveness could be part of the reconciliation. There is no lack of character in that.May 27, 2011 at 2:13 PM #700135NotCrankyParticipant[quote=briansd1]If your spouse divorces you for somebody else, would you take her/him back later?
What does it say about your own character and her character?[/quote]
In the real world people of fairly decent character do make mistakes or get offtrack. It’s easy to say this could never happen to me from the sidelines. How do we know that a life of being single after a trial and failure doesn’t represent a lack of character(or balls)? Not that this scenario you pose ever happened to me, but I think forgiveness could be part of the reconciliation. There is no lack of character in that.May 27, 2011 at 2:13 PM #700283NotCrankyParticipant[quote=briansd1]If your spouse divorces you for somebody else, would you take her/him back later?
What does it say about your own character and her character?[/quote]
In the real world people of fairly decent character do make mistakes or get offtrack. It’s easy to say this could never happen to me from the sidelines. How do we know that a life of being single after a trial and failure doesn’t represent a lack of character(or balls)? Not that this scenario you pose ever happened to me, but I think forgiveness could be part of the reconciliation. There is no lack of character in that.May 27, 2011 at 2:13 PM #700638NotCrankyParticipant[quote=briansd1]If your spouse divorces you for somebody else, would you take her/him back later?
What does it say about your own character and her character?[/quote]
In the real world people of fairly decent character do make mistakes or get offtrack. It’s easy to say this could never happen to me from the sidelines. How do we know that a life of being single after a trial and failure doesn’t represent a lack of character(or balls)? Not that this scenario you pose ever happened to me, but I think forgiveness could be part of the reconciliation. There is no lack of character in that.June 12, 2011 at 2:39 AM #702635CA renterParticipant[quote=CardiffBaseball]The more I think about Arnold being a dick, the more I think well, your home life isn’t much better Mr. Baseball. I think my wife is a succubus. Is there a test you do? Like a sneaky DNA extract or something? She can get so mean and bent out of shape with the kids over nothing, and I just don’t get the anger. It’s seriously over the top, and often from something one of their friends did at school (she teaches where they go) and has nothing to do with them. Even if my kids were causing the problems dealing with your children choosing path Y when they should have chosen path X, is part of the deal of being a parent. You roll with the punches. Improvise, overcome, adapt. This is what we are SUPPOSED to deal with.
However I haven’t killed her or even hurt her in any way despite the constant bitter attitude towards everything in life. Will I make it to 20 years this august? Probably, because I end up saying, screw it, just roll with it. I am a little worried about the kids though she’s really going overboard about the tiniest of things. You gotta save something for the first time they try weed or call from jail for gods sake. My 16.5 year old as near as I can tell has never even been intoxicated and since he isn’t gone much might even be a virgin. By his age was banging everything that moved, drinking and whatever else I could do. I know he isn’t because it’s extremely rare that he is even gone on weekends. Hell his school in San Diego drug tested him and he was clean, no pot in the system (private school) Christ on a Pony these boys are up for Mother Theresa awards compared to what I was.[/quote]
Late to this thread, but wanted to comment on this, Cardiff.
Not sure if this is the issue or not, but based on personal experience, and having lived with a mother who went nuts while going through menopause, if your wife seems more irritable, bitter, depressed, etc., over the past few months or years, it’s very possible this is the result of hormones. On one of her better days, you might want to discuss it with her, and see if you two can come up with some kind of “agreement” for when it happens.
Oftentimes, a person with hormonal issues doesn’t realize that their hormones are the cause of their problems and irritability. They really think that everyone else is at fault. If they are approached in the right way (not in an accusatory way), it might be possible to point it out to them, and they might be willing to either take some kind of medicine, or remove themselves from the situation whenever you let them know that they are acting that way. Sometimes, if they are made aware of it when it’s happening, they can make themselves calm down.
I really hope you’re able to work things out with her. It’s tough on everybody. Good luck!
BTW, congratulations on 20 years!
June 12, 2011 at 2:39 AM #702734CA renterParticipant[quote=CardiffBaseball]The more I think about Arnold being a dick, the more I think well, your home life isn’t much better Mr. Baseball. I think my wife is a succubus. Is there a test you do? Like a sneaky DNA extract or something? She can get so mean and bent out of shape with the kids over nothing, and I just don’t get the anger. It’s seriously over the top, and often from something one of their friends did at school (she teaches where they go) and has nothing to do with them. Even if my kids were causing the problems dealing with your children choosing path Y when they should have chosen path X, is part of the deal of being a parent. You roll with the punches. Improvise, overcome, adapt. This is what we are SUPPOSED to deal with.
However I haven’t killed her or even hurt her in any way despite the constant bitter attitude towards everything in life. Will I make it to 20 years this august? Probably, because I end up saying, screw it, just roll with it. I am a little worried about the kids though she’s really going overboard about the tiniest of things. You gotta save something for the first time they try weed or call from jail for gods sake. My 16.5 year old as near as I can tell has never even been intoxicated and since he isn’t gone much might even be a virgin. By his age was banging everything that moved, drinking and whatever else I could do. I know he isn’t because it’s extremely rare that he is even gone on weekends. Hell his school in San Diego drug tested him and he was clean, no pot in the system (private school) Christ on a Pony these boys are up for Mother Theresa awards compared to what I was.[/quote]
Late to this thread, but wanted to comment on this, Cardiff.
Not sure if this is the issue or not, but based on personal experience, and having lived with a mother who went nuts while going through menopause, if your wife seems more irritable, bitter, depressed, etc., over the past few months or years, it’s very possible this is the result of hormones. On one of her better days, you might want to discuss it with her, and see if you two can come up with some kind of “agreement” for when it happens.
Oftentimes, a person with hormonal issues doesn’t realize that their hormones are the cause of their problems and irritability. They really think that everyone else is at fault. If they are approached in the right way (not in an accusatory way), it might be possible to point it out to them, and they might be willing to either take some kind of medicine, or remove themselves from the situation whenever you let them know that they are acting that way. Sometimes, if they are made aware of it when it’s happening, they can make themselves calm down.
I really hope you’re able to work things out with her. It’s tough on everybody. Good luck!
BTW, congratulations on 20 years!
June 12, 2011 at 2:39 AM #703325CA renterParticipant[quote=CardiffBaseball]The more I think about Arnold being a dick, the more I think well, your home life isn’t much better Mr. Baseball. I think my wife is a succubus. Is there a test you do? Like a sneaky DNA extract or something? She can get so mean and bent out of shape with the kids over nothing, and I just don’t get the anger. It’s seriously over the top, and often from something one of their friends did at school (she teaches where they go) and has nothing to do with them. Even if my kids were causing the problems dealing with your children choosing path Y when they should have chosen path X, is part of the deal of being a parent. You roll with the punches. Improvise, overcome, adapt. This is what we are SUPPOSED to deal with.
However I haven’t killed her or even hurt her in any way despite the constant bitter attitude towards everything in life. Will I make it to 20 years this august? Probably, because I end up saying, screw it, just roll with it. I am a little worried about the kids though she’s really going overboard about the tiniest of things. You gotta save something for the first time they try weed or call from jail for gods sake. My 16.5 year old as near as I can tell has never even been intoxicated and since he isn’t gone much might even be a virgin. By his age was banging everything that moved, drinking and whatever else I could do. I know he isn’t because it’s extremely rare that he is even gone on weekends. Hell his school in San Diego drug tested him and he was clean, no pot in the system (private school) Christ on a Pony these boys are up for Mother Theresa awards compared to what I was.[/quote]
Late to this thread, but wanted to comment on this, Cardiff.
Not sure if this is the issue or not, but based on personal experience, and having lived with a mother who went nuts while going through menopause, if your wife seems more irritable, bitter, depressed, etc., over the past few months or years, it’s very possible this is the result of hormones. On one of her better days, you might want to discuss it with her, and see if you two can come up with some kind of “agreement” for when it happens.
Oftentimes, a person with hormonal issues doesn’t realize that their hormones are the cause of their problems and irritability. They really think that everyone else is at fault. If they are approached in the right way (not in an accusatory way), it might be possible to point it out to them, and they might be willing to either take some kind of medicine, or remove themselves from the situation whenever you let them know that they are acting that way. Sometimes, if they are made aware of it when it’s happening, they can make themselves calm down.
I really hope you’re able to work things out with her. It’s tough on everybody. Good luck!
BTW, congratulations on 20 years!
June 12, 2011 at 2:39 AM #703473CA renterParticipant[quote=CardiffBaseball]The more I think about Arnold being a dick, the more I think well, your home life isn’t much better Mr. Baseball. I think my wife is a succubus. Is there a test you do? Like a sneaky DNA extract or something? She can get so mean and bent out of shape with the kids over nothing, and I just don’t get the anger. It’s seriously over the top, and often from something one of their friends did at school (she teaches where they go) and has nothing to do with them. Even if my kids were causing the problems dealing with your children choosing path Y when they should have chosen path X, is part of the deal of being a parent. You roll with the punches. Improvise, overcome, adapt. This is what we are SUPPOSED to deal with.
However I haven’t killed her or even hurt her in any way despite the constant bitter attitude towards everything in life. Will I make it to 20 years this august? Probably, because I end up saying, screw it, just roll with it. I am a little worried about the kids though she’s really going overboard about the tiniest of things. You gotta save something for the first time they try weed or call from jail for gods sake. My 16.5 year old as near as I can tell has never even been intoxicated and since he isn’t gone much might even be a virgin. By his age was banging everything that moved, drinking and whatever else I could do. I know he isn’t because it’s extremely rare that he is even gone on weekends. Hell his school in San Diego drug tested him and he was clean, no pot in the system (private school) Christ on a Pony these boys are up for Mother Theresa awards compared to what I was.[/quote]
Late to this thread, but wanted to comment on this, Cardiff.
Not sure if this is the issue or not, but based on personal experience, and having lived with a mother who went nuts while going through menopause, if your wife seems more irritable, bitter, depressed, etc., over the past few months or years, it’s very possible this is the result of hormones. On one of her better days, you might want to discuss it with her, and see if you two can come up with some kind of “agreement” for when it happens.
Oftentimes, a person with hormonal issues doesn’t realize that their hormones are the cause of their problems and irritability. They really think that everyone else is at fault. If they are approached in the right way (not in an accusatory way), it might be possible to point it out to them, and they might be willing to either take some kind of medicine, or remove themselves from the situation whenever you let them know that they are acting that way. Sometimes, if they are made aware of it when it’s happening, they can make themselves calm down.
I really hope you’re able to work things out with her. It’s tough on everybody. Good luck!
BTW, congratulations on 20 years!
June 12, 2011 at 2:39 AM #703832CA renterParticipant[quote=CardiffBaseball]The more I think about Arnold being a dick, the more I think well, your home life isn’t much better Mr. Baseball. I think my wife is a succubus. Is there a test you do? Like a sneaky DNA extract or something? She can get so mean and bent out of shape with the kids over nothing, and I just don’t get the anger. It’s seriously over the top, and often from something one of their friends did at school (she teaches where they go) and has nothing to do with them. Even if my kids were causing the problems dealing with your children choosing path Y when they should have chosen path X, is part of the deal of being a parent. You roll with the punches. Improvise, overcome, adapt. This is what we are SUPPOSED to deal with.
However I haven’t killed her or even hurt her in any way despite the constant bitter attitude towards everything in life. Will I make it to 20 years this august? Probably, because I end up saying, screw it, just roll with it. I am a little worried about the kids though she’s really going overboard about the tiniest of things. You gotta save something for the first time they try weed or call from jail for gods sake. My 16.5 year old as near as I can tell has never even been intoxicated and since he isn’t gone much might even be a virgin. By his age was banging everything that moved, drinking and whatever else I could do. I know he isn’t because it’s extremely rare that he is even gone on weekends. Hell his school in San Diego drug tested him and he was clean, no pot in the system (private school) Christ on a Pony these boys are up for Mother Theresa awards compared to what I was.[/quote]
Late to this thread, but wanted to comment on this, Cardiff.
Not sure if this is the issue or not, but based on personal experience, and having lived with a mother who went nuts while going through menopause, if your wife seems more irritable, bitter, depressed, etc., over the past few months or years, it’s very possible this is the result of hormones. On one of her better days, you might want to discuss it with her, and see if you two can come up with some kind of “agreement” for when it happens.
Oftentimes, a person with hormonal issues doesn’t realize that their hormones are the cause of their problems and irritability. They really think that everyone else is at fault. If they are approached in the right way (not in an accusatory way), it might be possible to point it out to them, and they might be willing to either take some kind of medicine, or remove themselves from the situation whenever you let them know that they are acting that way. Sometimes, if they are made aware of it when it’s happening, they can make themselves calm down.
I really hope you’re able to work things out with her. It’s tough on everybody. Good luck!
BTW, congratulations on 20 years!
June 12, 2011 at 2:44 AM #702640CA renterParticipant[quote=njtosd]We’ve seen this topic on threads before, but the thing that everyone seems to focus on is mens’ desire to stray. I don’t think anyone would argue that that desire is there. The issue is straying after (a) a guy promises someone that he won’t and (b) that other person has taken significant action based on that promise (i.e. marrying the guying, having kids with him, foregoing work opportunities, etc.).
If you don’t want to be faithful, don’t promise someone that you will be. If you promise someone that you will be faithful and that person relies on the promise, you need to live up to it. Really a pretty simple analysis.[/quote]
Could not agree more!
Many people (especially women) make rather large sacrifices based on someone else’s promises. If the prospective spouse has no intentions of remaining faithful, or staying in the marriage over the long run, they should say so up front.
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Brian,
You can’t honestly believe that people don’t discuss this and make promises about fidelity before getting married. I can’t think of a single couple who didn’t discuss this — often in great detail — before getting married.
June 12, 2011 at 2:44 AM #702739CA renterParticipant[quote=njtosd]We’ve seen this topic on threads before, but the thing that everyone seems to focus on is mens’ desire to stray. I don’t think anyone would argue that that desire is there. The issue is straying after (a) a guy promises someone that he won’t and (b) that other person has taken significant action based on that promise (i.e. marrying the guying, having kids with him, foregoing work opportunities, etc.).
If you don’t want to be faithful, don’t promise someone that you will be. If you promise someone that you will be faithful and that person relies on the promise, you need to live up to it. Really a pretty simple analysis.[/quote]
Could not agree more!
Many people (especially women) make rather large sacrifices based on someone else’s promises. If the prospective spouse has no intentions of remaining faithful, or staying in the marriage over the long run, they should say so up front.
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Brian,
You can’t honestly believe that people don’t discuss this and make promises about fidelity before getting married. I can’t think of a single couple who didn’t discuss this — often in great detail — before getting married.
June 12, 2011 at 2:44 AM #703330CA renterParticipant[quote=njtosd]We’ve seen this topic on threads before, but the thing that everyone seems to focus on is mens’ desire to stray. I don’t think anyone would argue that that desire is there. The issue is straying after (a) a guy promises someone that he won’t and (b) that other person has taken significant action based on that promise (i.e. marrying the guying, having kids with him, foregoing work opportunities, etc.).
If you don’t want to be faithful, don’t promise someone that you will be. If you promise someone that you will be faithful and that person relies on the promise, you need to live up to it. Really a pretty simple analysis.[/quote]
Could not agree more!
Many people (especially women) make rather large sacrifices based on someone else’s promises. If the prospective spouse has no intentions of remaining faithful, or staying in the marriage over the long run, they should say so up front.
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Brian,
You can’t honestly believe that people don’t discuss this and make promises about fidelity before getting married. I can’t think of a single couple who didn’t discuss this — often in great detail — before getting married.
June 12, 2011 at 2:44 AM #703478CA renterParticipant[quote=njtosd]We’ve seen this topic on threads before, but the thing that everyone seems to focus on is mens’ desire to stray. I don’t think anyone would argue that that desire is there. The issue is straying after (a) a guy promises someone that he won’t and (b) that other person has taken significant action based on that promise (i.e. marrying the guying, having kids with him, foregoing work opportunities, etc.).
If you don’t want to be faithful, don’t promise someone that you will be. If you promise someone that you will be faithful and that person relies on the promise, you need to live up to it. Really a pretty simple analysis.[/quote]
Could not agree more!
Many people (especially women) make rather large sacrifices based on someone else’s promises. If the prospective spouse has no intentions of remaining faithful, or staying in the marriage over the long run, they should say so up front.
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Brian,
You can’t honestly believe that people don’t discuss this and make promises about fidelity before getting married. I can’t think of a single couple who didn’t discuss this — often in great detail — before getting married.
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