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  • February 1, 2011 at 3:10 PM #662165
    jstoesz
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    [quote=jstoesz]
    I have some friends (a couple) who graduated and got credentialed at Cal Poly SLO, they had to move to the outskirts of Visalia (ghetto) to find a teaching job…
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    So yes they are credentialed, and no they would much prefer to live in a nicer area of california. Many, many, many of my college friends and roommates wanted to be teachers, and few of them found jobs.

    BTW, from what I have heard (from people who have gone through the credentialing process) getting a credential is kind of a joke. It is more of a bureaucratic hoop than anything. It does not make you a better teacher, only states the obvious (such as don’t smack johnny around when he is being a punk kid).

    February 1, 2011 at 3:22 PM #661040
    bearishgurl
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    [quote=jstoesz]…BTW, from what I have heard (from people who have gone through the credentialing process) getting a credential is kind of a joke. It is more of a bureaucratic hoop than anything. It does not make you a better teacher, only states the obvious (such as don’t smack johnny around when he is being a punk kid).[/quote]

    Well, then, I’d say if more grads could/wished to successfully navigate CA’s “bureaucratic hoops” to obtain a credential, then there would be a nice supply of “replacements” for all of our aging teachers. The “hoops” must be there for a reason, jstoesz. I’m just not seeing all these candidates. I’m seeing “credential-pending” teaching candidates working as temporary low-paid teachers under the supervision of an experienced teacher. They seem to come and go and never actually get hired by the district. Maybe a CA teacher Pigg can explain to us why this is so.

    February 1, 2011 at 3:22 PM #661104
    bearishgurl
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    [quote=jstoesz]…BTW, from what I have heard (from people who have gone through the credentialing process) getting a credential is kind of a joke. It is more of a bureaucratic hoop than anything. It does not make you a better teacher, only states the obvious (such as don’t smack johnny around when he is being a punk kid).[/quote]

    Well, then, I’d say if more grads could/wished to successfully navigate CA’s “bureaucratic hoops” to obtain a credential, then there would be a nice supply of “replacements” for all of our aging teachers. The “hoops” must be there for a reason, jstoesz. I’m just not seeing all these candidates. I’m seeing “credential-pending” teaching candidates working as temporary low-paid teachers under the supervision of an experienced teacher. They seem to come and go and never actually get hired by the district. Maybe a CA teacher Pigg can explain to us why this is so.

    February 1, 2011 at 3:22 PM #661708
    bearishgurl
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    [quote=jstoesz]…BTW, from what I have heard (from people who have gone through the credentialing process) getting a credential is kind of a joke. It is more of a bureaucratic hoop than anything. It does not make you a better teacher, only states the obvious (such as don’t smack johnny around when he is being a punk kid).[/quote]

    Well, then, I’d say if more grads could/wished to successfully navigate CA’s “bureaucratic hoops” to obtain a credential, then there would be a nice supply of “replacements” for all of our aging teachers. The “hoops” must be there for a reason, jstoesz. I’m just not seeing all these candidates. I’m seeing “credential-pending” teaching candidates working as temporary low-paid teachers under the supervision of an experienced teacher. They seem to come and go and never actually get hired by the district. Maybe a CA teacher Pigg can explain to us why this is so.

    February 1, 2011 at 3:22 PM #661845
    bearishgurl
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    [quote=jstoesz]…BTW, from what I have heard (from people who have gone through the credentialing process) getting a credential is kind of a joke. It is more of a bureaucratic hoop than anything. It does not make you a better teacher, only states the obvious (such as don’t smack johnny around when he is being a punk kid).[/quote]

    Well, then, I’d say if more grads could/wished to successfully navigate CA’s “bureaucratic hoops” to obtain a credential, then there would be a nice supply of “replacements” for all of our aging teachers. The “hoops” must be there for a reason, jstoesz. I’m just not seeing all these candidates. I’m seeing “credential-pending” teaching candidates working as temporary low-paid teachers under the supervision of an experienced teacher. They seem to come and go and never actually get hired by the district. Maybe a CA teacher Pigg can explain to us why this is so.

    February 1, 2011 at 3:22 PM #662175
    bearishgurl
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    [quote=jstoesz]…BTW, from what I have heard (from people who have gone through the credentialing process) getting a credential is kind of a joke. It is more of a bureaucratic hoop than anything. It does not make you a better teacher, only states the obvious (such as don’t smack johnny around when he is being a punk kid).[/quote]

    Well, then, I’d say if more grads could/wished to successfully navigate CA’s “bureaucratic hoops” to obtain a credential, then there would be a nice supply of “replacements” for all of our aging teachers. The “hoops” must be there for a reason, jstoesz. I’m just not seeing all these candidates. I’m seeing “credential-pending” teaching candidates working as temporary low-paid teachers under the supervision of an experienced teacher. They seem to come and go and never actually get hired by the district. Maybe a CA teacher Pigg can explain to us why this is so.

    February 1, 2011 at 3:28 PM #661050
    Djshakes
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    [quote=bearishgurl][quote=jstoesz]…BTW, from what I have heard (from people who have gone through the credentialing process) getting a credential is kind of a joke. It is more of a bureaucratic hoop than anything. It does not make you a better teacher, only states the obvious (such as don’t smack johnny around when he is being a punk kid).[/quote]

    Well, then, I’d say if more grads could/wished to successfully navigate CA’s “bureaucratic hoops” to obtain a credential, then there would be a nice supply of “replacements” for all of our aging teachers. The “hoops” must be there for a reason, jstoesz. I’m just not seeing all these candidates. I’m seeing “credential-pending” teaching candidates working as temporary low-paid teachers under the supervision of an experienced teacher. They seem to come and go and never actually get hired by the district. Maybe a CA teacher Pigg can explain to us why this is so.[/quote]

    With all the cuts and fresh grads there is a large amount of applicants in the pool. I have a friend who was recently cut and still looking for a job. He also coaches. There is nothing out there.

    Credentialing isn’t normally a separate process you go through. You get credentialed when you graduate from an accredited program, your bachelors degree. I’m sure there are some forms and basic one day courses in which jstoesz mentioned. These are formalities.

    There isn’t a problem with replacing open spots…there are no spots to replace. They are either cutting the positions of the aging teacher once they retire or there are no positions at all.

    February 1, 2011 at 3:28 PM #661114
    Djshakes
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    [quote=bearishgurl][quote=jstoesz]…BTW, from what I have heard (from people who have gone through the credentialing process) getting a credential is kind of a joke. It is more of a bureaucratic hoop than anything. It does not make you a better teacher, only states the obvious (such as don’t smack johnny around when he is being a punk kid).[/quote]

    Well, then, I’d say if more grads could/wished to successfully navigate CA’s “bureaucratic hoops” to obtain a credential, then there would be a nice supply of “replacements” for all of our aging teachers. The “hoops” must be there for a reason, jstoesz. I’m just not seeing all these candidates. I’m seeing “credential-pending” teaching candidates working as temporary low-paid teachers under the supervision of an experienced teacher. They seem to come and go and never actually get hired by the district. Maybe a CA teacher Pigg can explain to us why this is so.[/quote]

    With all the cuts and fresh grads there is a large amount of applicants in the pool. I have a friend who was recently cut and still looking for a job. He also coaches. There is nothing out there.

    Credentialing isn’t normally a separate process you go through. You get credentialed when you graduate from an accredited program, your bachelors degree. I’m sure there are some forms and basic one day courses in which jstoesz mentioned. These are formalities.

    There isn’t a problem with replacing open spots…there are no spots to replace. They are either cutting the positions of the aging teacher once they retire or there are no positions at all.

    February 1, 2011 at 3:28 PM #661718
    Djshakes
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    [quote=bearishgurl][quote=jstoesz]…BTW, from what I have heard (from people who have gone through the credentialing process) getting a credential is kind of a joke. It is more of a bureaucratic hoop than anything. It does not make you a better teacher, only states the obvious (such as don’t smack johnny around when he is being a punk kid).[/quote]

    Well, then, I’d say if more grads could/wished to successfully navigate CA’s “bureaucratic hoops” to obtain a credential, then there would be a nice supply of “replacements” for all of our aging teachers. The “hoops” must be there for a reason, jstoesz. I’m just not seeing all these candidates. I’m seeing “credential-pending” teaching candidates working as temporary low-paid teachers under the supervision of an experienced teacher. They seem to come and go and never actually get hired by the district. Maybe a CA teacher Pigg can explain to us why this is so.[/quote]

    With all the cuts and fresh grads there is a large amount of applicants in the pool. I have a friend who was recently cut and still looking for a job. He also coaches. There is nothing out there.

    Credentialing isn’t normally a separate process you go through. You get credentialed when you graduate from an accredited program, your bachelors degree. I’m sure there are some forms and basic one day courses in which jstoesz mentioned. These are formalities.

    There isn’t a problem with replacing open spots…there are no spots to replace. They are either cutting the positions of the aging teacher once they retire or there are no positions at all.

    February 1, 2011 at 3:28 PM #661855
    Djshakes
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    [quote=bearishgurl][quote=jstoesz]…BTW, from what I have heard (from people who have gone through the credentialing process) getting a credential is kind of a joke. It is more of a bureaucratic hoop than anything. It does not make you a better teacher, only states the obvious (such as don’t smack johnny around when he is being a punk kid).[/quote]

    Well, then, I’d say if more grads could/wished to successfully navigate CA’s “bureaucratic hoops” to obtain a credential, then there would be a nice supply of “replacements” for all of our aging teachers. The “hoops” must be there for a reason, jstoesz. I’m just not seeing all these candidates. I’m seeing “credential-pending” teaching candidates working as temporary low-paid teachers under the supervision of an experienced teacher. They seem to come and go and never actually get hired by the district. Maybe a CA teacher Pigg can explain to us why this is so.[/quote]

    With all the cuts and fresh grads there is a large amount of applicants in the pool. I have a friend who was recently cut and still looking for a job. He also coaches. There is nothing out there.

    Credentialing isn’t normally a separate process you go through. You get credentialed when you graduate from an accredited program, your bachelors degree. I’m sure there are some forms and basic one day courses in which jstoesz mentioned. These are formalities.

    There isn’t a problem with replacing open spots…there are no spots to replace. They are either cutting the positions of the aging teacher once they retire or there are no positions at all.

    February 1, 2011 at 3:28 PM #662185
    Djshakes
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    [quote=bearishgurl][quote=jstoesz]…BTW, from what I have heard (from people who have gone through the credentialing process) getting a credential is kind of a joke. It is more of a bureaucratic hoop than anything. It does not make you a better teacher, only states the obvious (such as don’t smack johnny around when he is being a punk kid).[/quote]

    Well, then, I’d say if more grads could/wished to successfully navigate CA’s “bureaucratic hoops” to obtain a credential, then there would be a nice supply of “replacements” for all of our aging teachers. The “hoops” must be there for a reason, jstoesz. I’m just not seeing all these candidates. I’m seeing “credential-pending” teaching candidates working as temporary low-paid teachers under the supervision of an experienced teacher. They seem to come and go and never actually get hired by the district. Maybe a CA teacher Pigg can explain to us why this is so.[/quote]

    With all the cuts and fresh grads there is a large amount of applicants in the pool. I have a friend who was recently cut and still looking for a job. He also coaches. There is nothing out there.

    Credentialing isn’t normally a separate process you go through. You get credentialed when you graduate from an accredited program, your bachelors degree. I’m sure there are some forms and basic one day courses in which jstoesz mentioned. These are formalities.

    There isn’t a problem with replacing open spots…there are no spots to replace. They are either cutting the positions of the aging teacher once they retire or there are no positions at all.

    February 1, 2011 at 3:30 PM #661055
    Djshakes
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    [quote=bearishgurl][quote=Djshakes]I was dually certified to teach business and marketing. I taught at public school outside of Milwaukee. Courses I taught were: Accounting, Intermediate accounting, Advanced accounting, keyboarding, Computer applications 1&2, personal finance, Marketing…[/quote]

    Djshakes, this is a great skillset. I don’t think “keyboarding” is taught anymore because now most 9-year-olds can do it with their thumbs, lol. And I WISH “personal finance” would be mandated as a HS graduation requirement in CA. I haven’t seen it offered. Your accounting classes are taught here at the community college level. Marketing USED to be taught in HS in the “olden days” under the acronym “DECA.” I have not seen it offered it my district.

    Maybe you could get a part-time teaching gig in accounting in the eves at a cc if you find time 🙂 You won’t need a credential for this.[/quote]

    Well, there is a reason WI schools are better than CA. All the money they dump into schools out here and the kids don’t even have elective choices.

    February 1, 2011 at 3:30 PM #661119
    Djshakes
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    [quote=bearishgurl][quote=Djshakes]I was dually certified to teach business and marketing. I taught at public school outside of Milwaukee. Courses I taught were: Accounting, Intermediate accounting, Advanced accounting, keyboarding, Computer applications 1&2, personal finance, Marketing…[/quote]

    Djshakes, this is a great skillset. I don’t think “keyboarding” is taught anymore because now most 9-year-olds can do it with their thumbs, lol. And I WISH “personal finance” would be mandated as a HS graduation requirement in CA. I haven’t seen it offered. Your accounting classes are taught here at the community college level. Marketing USED to be taught in HS in the “olden days” under the acronym “DECA.” I have not seen it offered it my district.

    Maybe you could get a part-time teaching gig in accounting in the eves at a cc if you find time 🙂 You won’t need a credential for this.[/quote]

    Well, there is a reason WI schools are better than CA. All the money they dump into schools out here and the kids don’t even have elective choices.

    February 1, 2011 at 3:30 PM #661723
    Djshakes
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    [quote=bearishgurl][quote=Djshakes]I was dually certified to teach business and marketing. I taught at public school outside of Milwaukee. Courses I taught were: Accounting, Intermediate accounting, Advanced accounting, keyboarding, Computer applications 1&2, personal finance, Marketing…[/quote]

    Djshakes, this is a great skillset. I don’t think “keyboarding” is taught anymore because now most 9-year-olds can do it with their thumbs, lol. And I WISH “personal finance” would be mandated as a HS graduation requirement in CA. I haven’t seen it offered. Your accounting classes are taught here at the community college level. Marketing USED to be taught in HS in the “olden days” under the acronym “DECA.” I have not seen it offered it my district.

    Maybe you could get a part-time teaching gig in accounting in the eves at a cc if you find time 🙂 You won’t need a credential for this.[/quote]

    Well, there is a reason WI schools are better than CA. All the money they dump into schools out here and the kids don’t even have elective choices.

    February 1, 2011 at 3:30 PM #661860
    Djshakes
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    [quote=bearishgurl][quote=Djshakes]I was dually certified to teach business and marketing. I taught at public school outside of Milwaukee. Courses I taught were: Accounting, Intermediate accounting, Advanced accounting, keyboarding, Computer applications 1&2, personal finance, Marketing…[/quote]

    Djshakes, this is a great skillset. I don’t think “keyboarding” is taught anymore because now most 9-year-olds can do it with their thumbs, lol. And I WISH “personal finance” would be mandated as a HS graduation requirement in CA. I haven’t seen it offered. Your accounting classes are taught here at the community college level. Marketing USED to be taught in HS in the “olden days” under the acronym “DECA.” I have not seen it offered it my district.

    Maybe you could get a part-time teaching gig in accounting in the eves at a cc if you find time 🙂 You won’t need a credential for this.[/quote]

    Well, there is a reason WI schools are better than CA. All the money they dump into schools out here and the kids don’t even have elective choices.

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