Surreal State of the State Speech

[Djshakes]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=Djshakes]I was dually certified to teach business and marketing. I taught at public school outside of Milwaukee. Courses I taught were: Accounting, Intermediate accounting, Advanced accounting, keyboarding, Computer applications 1&2, personal finance, Marketing…[/quote]

Djshakes, this is a great skillset. I don’t think “keyboarding” is taught anymore because now most 9-year-olds can do it with their thumbs, lol. And I WISH “personal finance” would be mandated as a HS graduation requirement in CA. I haven’t seen it offered. Your accounting classes are taught here at the community college level. Marketing USED to be taught in HS in the “olden days” under the acronym “DECA.” I have not seen it offered it my district.

Maybe you could get a part-time teaching gig in accounting in the eves at a cc if you find time 🙂 You won’t need a credential for this.[/quote]

Well, there is a reason WI schools are better than CA. All the money they dump into schools out here and the kids don’t even have elective choices.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=jstoesz]…So yes they are credentialed, and no they would much prefer to live in a nicer area of california. Many, many, many of my college friends and roommates wanted to be teachers, and few of them found jobs…[/quote]

jstoesz, of all these “friends” of yours (at Cal Poly?) who “wanted to be teachers,” how many of them, to your knowledge, actually ended up majoring in teaching?

[bearishgurl]

[quote=jstoesz]…So yes they are credentialed, and no they would much prefer to live in a nicer area of california. Many, many, many of my college friends and roommates wanted to be teachers, and few of them found jobs…[/quote]

jstoesz, of all these “friends” of yours (at Cal Poly?) who “wanted to be teachers,” how many of them, to your knowledge, actually ended up majoring in teaching?

[bearishgurl]

[quote=jstoesz]…So yes they are credentialed, and no they would much prefer to live in a nicer area of california. Many, many, many of my college friends and roommates wanted to be teachers, and few of them found jobs…[/quote]

jstoesz, of all these “friends” of yours (at Cal Poly?) who “wanted to be teachers,” how many of them, to your knowledge, actually ended up majoring in teaching?

[bearishgurl]

[quote=jstoesz]…So yes they are credentialed, and no they would much prefer to live in a nicer area of california. Many, many, many of my college friends and roommates wanted to be teachers, and few of them found jobs…[/quote]

jstoesz, of all these “friends” of yours (at Cal Poly?) who “wanted to be teachers,” how many of them, to your knowledge, actually ended up majoring in teaching?

[bearishgurl]

[quote=jstoesz]…So yes they are credentialed, and no they would much prefer to live in a nicer area of california. Many, many, many of my college friends and roommates wanted to be teachers, and few of them found jobs…[/quote]

jstoesz, of all these “friends” of yours (at Cal Poly?) who “wanted to be teachers,” how many of them, to your knowledge, actually ended up majoring in teaching?

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Djshakes]. . . Well, there is a reason WI schools are better than CA. All the money they dump into schools out here and the kids don’t even have elective choices.[/quote]

Djshakes, their USED to be many “electives” available here. Now a CA public HS student gets about 3 electives their entire 4-yr HS “career.” I think since 2000, their has been a sea change in public HS curriculums. The “push” is now towards “A-G” requirements for CA public university admission purposes. I think many kids are pushed in this direction when they have no aptitude for it and would be better off learning the latest wheel alignment and suspension technologies at a low-cost “ROP” program and gaining HS credits at the same time, as was done in years past. As another Pigg stated here, public schools are now simply “teaching to (standardized) tests” and nothing more. HS’s may still have a storage room of good used band instruments, but the staff to teach instrumental music was cut long ago.

Its a function of education budget cuts all around and the political “push” to get every student admitted to college (even if just cc for the first couple of years). I think this mindset is just prolonging the “growing up” process for students. And it doesn’t help that massive budget cuts are causing many students to have to stay in college 10-12 semesters to get all their credits in for graduation, incurring even MORE debt on their student loans. Upon college graduation, not only are they entering an unkind economy and dead job market in many areas, their student loan payments are becoming due within six months of graduation. Upon deferral, the balance keeps growing. It never goes away, even in BK.

What’s wrong with taking ROP in HS to learn a shorter course in cosmetology, specifically nails? Even though I’m not a customer, this business seems to be booming all around me. The newly minted “nail technician” can get an $800 – $1500 mo part-time gig at the age of 18 and still live at home while contemplating the direction they will take. Maybe even pay cash for a newer car if they don’t have one. This is what we did in the “olden” days. We didn’t have student debt or car payments “straight out of the gate” in life.

What do Piggs think of again allowing ROP to replace some of the academic graduation requirements in CA high schools with 6 mo – 2 yr “Certificate Programs” (at no cost to the student)??

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Djshakes]. . . Well, there is a reason WI schools are better than CA. All the money they dump into schools out here and the kids don’t even have elective choices.[/quote]

Djshakes, their USED to be many “electives” available here. Now a CA public HS student gets about 3 electives their entire 4-yr HS “career.” I think since 2000, their has been a sea change in public HS curriculums. The “push” is now towards “A-G” requirements for CA public university admission purposes. I think many kids are pushed in this direction when they have no aptitude for it and would be better off learning the latest wheel alignment and suspension technologies at a low-cost “ROP” program and gaining HS credits at the same time, as was done in years past. As another Pigg stated here, public schools are now simply “teaching to (standardized) tests” and nothing more. HS’s may still have a storage room of good used band instruments, but the staff to teach instrumental music was cut long ago.

Its a function of education budget cuts all around and the political “push” to get every student admitted to college (even if just cc for the first couple of years). I think this mindset is just prolonging the “growing up” process for students. And it doesn’t help that massive budget cuts are causing many students to have to stay in college 10-12 semesters to get all their credits in for graduation, incurring even MORE debt on their student loans. Upon college graduation, not only are they entering an unkind economy and dead job market in many areas, their student loan payments are becoming due within six months of graduation. Upon deferral, the balance keeps growing. It never goes away, even in BK.

What’s wrong with taking ROP in HS to learn a shorter course in cosmetology, specifically nails? Even though I’m not a customer, this business seems to be booming all around me. The newly minted “nail technician” can get an $800 – $1500 mo part-time gig at the age of 18 and still live at home while contemplating the direction they will take. Maybe even pay cash for a newer car if they don’t have one. This is what we did in the “olden” days. We didn’t have student debt or car payments “straight out of the gate” in life.

What do Piggs think of again allowing ROP to replace some of the academic graduation requirements in CA high schools with 6 mo – 2 yr “Certificate Programs” (at no cost to the student)??

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Djshakes]. . . Well, there is a reason WI schools are better than CA. All the money they dump into schools out here and the kids don’t even have elective choices.[/quote]

Djshakes, their USED to be many “electives” available here. Now a CA public HS student gets about 3 electives their entire 4-yr HS “career.” I think since 2000, their has been a sea change in public HS curriculums. The “push” is now towards “A-G” requirements for CA public university admission purposes. I think many kids are pushed in this direction when they have no aptitude for it and would be better off learning the latest wheel alignment and suspension technologies at a low-cost “ROP” program and gaining HS credits at the same time, as was done in years past. As another Pigg stated here, public schools are now simply “teaching to (standardized) tests” and nothing more. HS’s may still have a storage room of good used band instruments, but the staff to teach instrumental music was cut long ago.

Its a function of education budget cuts all around and the political “push” to get every student admitted to college (even if just cc for the first couple of years). I think this mindset is just prolonging the “growing up” process for students. And it doesn’t help that massive budget cuts are causing many students to have to stay in college 10-12 semesters to get all their credits in for graduation, incurring even MORE debt on their student loans. Upon college graduation, not only are they entering an unkind economy and dead job market in many areas, their student loan payments are becoming due within six months of graduation. Upon deferral, the balance keeps growing. It never goes away, even in BK.

What’s wrong with taking ROP in HS to learn a shorter course in cosmetology, specifically nails? Even though I’m not a customer, this business seems to be booming all around me. The newly minted “nail technician” can get an $800 – $1500 mo part-time gig at the age of 18 and still live at home while contemplating the direction they will take. Maybe even pay cash for a newer car if they don’t have one. This is what we did in the “olden” days. We didn’t have student debt or car payments “straight out of the gate” in life.

What do Piggs think of again allowing ROP to replace some of the academic graduation requirements in CA high schools with 6 mo – 2 yr “Certificate Programs” (at no cost to the student)??

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Djshakes]. . . Well, there is a reason WI schools are better than CA. All the money they dump into schools out here and the kids don’t even have elective choices.[/quote]

Djshakes, their USED to be many “electives” available here. Now a CA public HS student gets about 3 electives their entire 4-yr HS “career.” I think since 2000, their has been a sea change in public HS curriculums. The “push” is now towards “A-G” requirements for CA public university admission purposes. I think many kids are pushed in this direction when they have no aptitude for it and would be better off learning the latest wheel alignment and suspension technologies at a low-cost “ROP” program and gaining HS credits at the same time, as was done in years past. As another Pigg stated here, public schools are now simply “teaching to (standardized) tests” and nothing more. HS’s may still have a storage room of good used band instruments, but the staff to teach instrumental music was cut long ago.

Its a function of education budget cuts all around and the political “push” to get every student admitted to college (even if just cc for the first couple of years). I think this mindset is just prolonging the “growing up” process for students. And it doesn’t help that massive budget cuts are causing many students to have to stay in college 10-12 semesters to get all their credits in for graduation, incurring even MORE debt on their student loans. Upon college graduation, not only are they entering an unkind economy and dead job market in many areas, their student loan payments are becoming due within six months of graduation. Upon deferral, the balance keeps growing. It never goes away, even in BK.

What’s wrong with taking ROP in HS to learn a shorter course in cosmetology, specifically nails? Even though I’m not a customer, this business seems to be booming all around me. The newly minted “nail technician” can get an $800 – $1500 mo part-time gig at the age of 18 and still live at home while contemplating the direction they will take. Maybe even pay cash for a newer car if they don’t have one. This is what we did in the “olden” days. We didn’t have student debt or car payments “straight out of the gate” in life.

What do Piggs think of again allowing ROP to replace some of the academic graduation requirements in CA high schools with 6 mo – 2 yr “Certificate Programs” (at no cost to the student)??

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Djshakes]. . . Well, there is a reason WI schools are better than CA. All the money they dump into schools out here and the kids don’t even have elective choices.[/quote]

Djshakes, their USED to be many “electives” available here. Now a CA public HS student gets about 3 electives their entire 4-yr HS “career.” I think since 2000, their has been a sea change in public HS curriculums. The “push” is now towards “A-G” requirements for CA public university admission purposes. I think many kids are pushed in this direction when they have no aptitude for it and would be better off learning the latest wheel alignment and suspension technologies at a low-cost “ROP” program and gaining HS credits at the same time, as was done in years past. As another Pigg stated here, public schools are now simply “teaching to (standardized) tests” and nothing more. HS’s may still have a storage room of good used band instruments, but the staff to teach instrumental music was cut long ago.

Its a function of education budget cuts all around and the political “push” to get every student admitted to college (even if just cc for the first couple of years). I think this mindset is just prolonging the “growing up” process for students. And it doesn’t help that massive budget cuts are causing many students to have to stay in college 10-12 semesters to get all their credits in for graduation, incurring even MORE debt on their student loans. Upon college graduation, not only are they entering an unkind economy and dead job market in many areas, their student loan payments are becoming due within six months of graduation. Upon deferral, the balance keeps growing. It never goes away, even in BK.

What’s wrong with taking ROP in HS to learn a shorter course in cosmetology, specifically nails? Even though I’m not a customer, this business seems to be booming all around me. The newly minted “nail technician” can get an $800 – $1500 mo part-time gig at the age of 18 and still live at home while contemplating the direction they will take. Maybe even pay cash for a newer car if they don’t have one. This is what we did in the “olden” days. We didn’t have student debt or car payments “straight out of the gate” in life.

What do Piggs think of again allowing ROP to replace some of the academic graduation requirements in CA high schools with 6 mo – 2 yr “Certificate Programs” (at no cost to the student)??

[UCGal]

My sister switched to teaching in her 30’s (after getting an MBA and working in business for most of her 20’s). Despite having a masters (MBA) she had to take 2 years of education courses and do a year of unpaid student teaching before she was credentialed for CA.

A good friend has a similar story. Worked sales and had a business degree, then went and got a teaching credential… it was a few years of education classes then a year of unpaid student teaching.

Both my sister and friend made the choice to give up better paying jobs specifically to become teachers. Some people love teaching, put in 80 hour weeks as teachers. They’re both type A type people. They put their all into teaching.

I can’t speak for other districts – but San Diego Unified is reducing the number of teachers. They’ve increased class sizes due to budget cuts and will likely be increasing sizes even more for the 2011/12 school year. What does that mean? They aren’t hiring new teachers.

[UCGal]

My sister switched to teaching in her 30’s (after getting an MBA and working in business for most of her 20’s). Despite having a masters (MBA) she had to take 2 years of education courses and do a year of unpaid student teaching before she was credentialed for CA.

A good friend has a similar story. Worked sales and had a business degree, then went and got a teaching credential… it was a few years of education classes then a year of unpaid student teaching.

Both my sister and friend made the choice to give up better paying jobs specifically to become teachers. Some people love teaching, put in 80 hour weeks as teachers. They’re both type A type people. They put their all into teaching.

I can’t speak for other districts – but San Diego Unified is reducing the number of teachers. They’ve increased class sizes due to budget cuts and will likely be increasing sizes even more for the 2011/12 school year. What does that mean? They aren’t hiring new teachers.

[UCGal]

My sister switched to teaching in her 30’s (after getting an MBA and working in business for most of her 20’s). Despite having a masters (MBA) she had to take 2 years of education courses and do a year of unpaid student teaching before she was credentialed for CA.

A good friend has a similar story. Worked sales and had a business degree, then went and got a teaching credential… it was a few years of education classes then a year of unpaid student teaching.

Both my sister and friend made the choice to give up better paying jobs specifically to become teachers. Some people love teaching, put in 80 hour weeks as teachers. They’re both type A type people. They put their all into teaching.

I can’t speak for other districts – but San Diego Unified is reducing the number of teachers. They’ve increased class sizes due to budget cuts and will likely be increasing sizes even more for the 2011/12 school year. What does that mean? They aren’t hiring new teachers.

[UCGal]

My sister switched to teaching in her 30’s (after getting an MBA and working in business for most of her 20’s). Despite having a masters (MBA) she had to take 2 years of education courses and do a year of unpaid student teaching before she was credentialed for CA.

A good friend has a similar story. Worked sales and had a business degree, then went and got a teaching credential… it was a few years of education classes then a year of unpaid student teaching.

Both my sister and friend made the choice to give up better paying jobs specifically to become teachers. Some people love teaching, put in 80 hour weeks as teachers. They’re both type A type people. They put their all into teaching.

I can’t speak for other districts – but San Diego Unified is reducing the number of teachers. They’ve increased class sizes due to budget cuts and will likely be increasing sizes even more for the 2011/12 school year. What does that mean? They aren’t hiring new teachers.

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