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February 1, 2011 at 6:29 AM #661521February 1, 2011 at 6:42 AM #660389
EmilyHicks
ParticipantTackling a failed pension system should be the first thing to do. Change the pension system to a 401K like system. No more retiring at 50, or 55 even for the police and firefighters. Clamp down on fraudulant disability claims by police and firefighters.
And NO, teachers are not underpaid. They make an average of 86k with cushy pension and 3.5 months off every year. There are a bunch of unemployed teachers out there so we should implement a 10% salary cut. Take it or leave it.
Yes, illegal immigrants is a big problem. In Santa Ana, 80% of the students are children of illegals.
I vote NO on taxes.
[quote=Eugene][quote=faterikcartman]Just wild listening to Jerry Brown talk about the sad state of our budget and the tough measures (higher taxes, cuts in trivial spending, no cuts or tackling of state pensions or illegal immigration costs) while the very same people in the legislature who caused the problems applaud. Just crazy.[/quote]
Can you explain how tackling of state pensions would improve the state of the budget?[/quote]
February 1, 2011 at 6:42 AM #660453ParticipantTackling a failed pension system should be the first thing to do. Change the pension system to a 401K like system. No more retiring at 50, or 55 even for the police and firefighters. Clamp down on fraudulant disability claims by police and firefighters.
And NO, teachers are not underpaid. They make an average of 86k with cushy pension and 3.5 months off every year. There are a bunch of unemployed teachers out there so we should implement a 10% salary cut. Take it or leave it.
Yes, illegal immigrants is a big problem. In Santa Ana, 80% of the students are children of illegals.
I vote NO on taxes.
[quote=Eugene][quote=faterikcartman]Just wild listening to Jerry Brown talk about the sad state of our budget and the tough measures (higher taxes, cuts in trivial spending, no cuts or tackling of state pensions or illegal immigration costs) while the very same people in the legislature who caused the problems applaud. Just crazy.[/quote]
Can you explain how tackling of state pensions would improve the state of the budget?[/quote]
February 1, 2011 at 6:42 AM #661056ParticipantTackling a failed pension system should be the first thing to do. Change the pension system to a 401K like system. No more retiring at 50, or 55 even for the police and firefighters. Clamp down on fraudulant disability claims by police and firefighters.
And NO, teachers are not underpaid. They make an average of 86k with cushy pension and 3.5 months off every year. There are a bunch of unemployed teachers out there so we should implement a 10% salary cut. Take it or leave it.
Yes, illegal immigrants is a big problem. In Santa Ana, 80% of the students are children of illegals.
I vote NO on taxes.
[quote=Eugene][quote=faterikcartman]Just wild listening to Jerry Brown talk about the sad state of our budget and the tough measures (higher taxes, cuts in trivial spending, no cuts or tackling of state pensions or illegal immigration costs) while the very same people in the legislature who caused the problems applaud. Just crazy.[/quote]
Can you explain how tackling of state pensions would improve the state of the budget?[/quote]
February 1, 2011 at 6:42 AM #661195ParticipantTackling a failed pension system should be the first thing to do. Change the pension system to a 401K like system. No more retiring at 50, or 55 even for the police and firefighters. Clamp down on fraudulant disability claims by police and firefighters.
And NO, teachers are not underpaid. They make an average of 86k with cushy pension and 3.5 months off every year. There are a bunch of unemployed teachers out there so we should implement a 10% salary cut. Take it or leave it.
Yes, illegal immigrants is a big problem. In Santa Ana, 80% of the students are children of illegals.
I vote NO on taxes.
[quote=Eugene][quote=faterikcartman]Just wild listening to Jerry Brown talk about the sad state of our budget and the tough measures (higher taxes, cuts in trivial spending, no cuts or tackling of state pensions or illegal immigration costs) while the very same people in the legislature who caused the problems applaud. Just crazy.[/quote]
Can you explain how tackling of state pensions would improve the state of the budget?[/quote]
February 1, 2011 at 6:42 AM #661526ParticipantTackling a failed pension system should be the first thing to do. Change the pension system to a 401K like system. No more retiring at 50, or 55 even for the police and firefighters. Clamp down on fraudulant disability claims by police and firefighters.
And NO, teachers are not underpaid. They make an average of 86k with cushy pension and 3.5 months off every year. There are a bunch of unemployed teachers out there so we should implement a 10% salary cut. Take it or leave it.
Yes, illegal immigrants is a big problem. In Santa Ana, 80% of the students are children of illegals.
I vote NO on taxes.
[quote=Eugene][quote=faterikcartman]Just wild listening to Jerry Brown talk about the sad state of our budget and the tough measures (higher taxes, cuts in trivial spending, no cuts or tackling of state pensions or illegal immigration costs) while the very same people in the legislature who caused the problems applaud. Just crazy.[/quote]
Can you explain how tackling of state pensions would improve the state of the budget?[/quote]
February 1, 2011 at 7:23 AM #660409Anonymous
Guest[quote=EmilyHicks]Tackling a failed pension system should be the first thing to do.[/quote]
The pension system is a time bomb – I’ve brought this up many times. However the problems with the pension system do not impact the current budget. (It’s just our children that will bear this massive burden.)
Governor Brown has to solve the immediate problem first.
I do agree that public safety compensation is out of control and fraud is rampant. I have no doubt that we could receive the same level of service at a fraction of the cost. We could pay firefighters less than six digits and still be just as safe.
[quote]And NO, teachers are not underpaid. They make an average of 86k with cushy pension and 3.5 months off every year.[/quote]
I’ve never heard of a teacher making six digits, so I find it very hard to believe that they make an average of $86K. You’ll need to cite a source on that one.
Although I’m a big critic of state worker compensation, I hesitate to lump teachers in with the rest.
I know many smart people who would never choose to be a teacher because of the poor compensation. I’ve never heard of anyone turning down a firefighter job because of the pay.
We need to be selective about where we cut:
Cut education and we deny our children future opportunities.
Cut firefighter and other state worker’s pensions (e.g. CalTrans), and we save our children from massive tax burdens when they are adults.
[quote]Yes, illegal immigrants is a big problem. In Santa Ana, 80% of the students are children of illegals.[/quote]
That’s a pretty extreme statistic – Got a source?
The illegal immigration “problem” is massively exaggerated. And even if it were a problem, how do we stop spending on them? What specifically do we cut?
We don’t need scapegoats, we need solutions.
February 1, 2011 at 7:23 AM #660473Guest[quote=EmilyHicks]Tackling a failed pension system should be the first thing to do.[/quote]
The pension system is a time bomb – I’ve brought this up many times. However the problems with the pension system do not impact the current budget. (It’s just our children that will bear this massive burden.)
Governor Brown has to solve the immediate problem first.
I do agree that public safety compensation is out of control and fraud is rampant. I have no doubt that we could receive the same level of service at a fraction of the cost. We could pay firefighters less than six digits and still be just as safe.
[quote]And NO, teachers are not underpaid. They make an average of 86k with cushy pension and 3.5 months off every year.[/quote]
I’ve never heard of a teacher making six digits, so I find it very hard to believe that they make an average of $86K. You’ll need to cite a source on that one.
Although I’m a big critic of state worker compensation, I hesitate to lump teachers in with the rest.
I know many smart people who would never choose to be a teacher because of the poor compensation. I’ve never heard of anyone turning down a firefighter job because of the pay.
We need to be selective about where we cut:
Cut education and we deny our children future opportunities.
Cut firefighter and other state worker’s pensions (e.g. CalTrans), and we save our children from massive tax burdens when they are adults.
[quote]Yes, illegal immigrants is a big problem. In Santa Ana, 80% of the students are children of illegals.[/quote]
That’s a pretty extreme statistic – Got a source?
The illegal immigration “problem” is massively exaggerated. And even if it were a problem, how do we stop spending on them? What specifically do we cut?
We don’t need scapegoats, we need solutions.
February 1, 2011 at 7:23 AM #661076Guest[quote=EmilyHicks]Tackling a failed pension system should be the first thing to do.[/quote]
The pension system is a time bomb – I’ve brought this up many times. However the problems with the pension system do not impact the current budget. (It’s just our children that will bear this massive burden.)
Governor Brown has to solve the immediate problem first.
I do agree that public safety compensation is out of control and fraud is rampant. I have no doubt that we could receive the same level of service at a fraction of the cost. We could pay firefighters less than six digits and still be just as safe.
[quote]And NO, teachers are not underpaid. They make an average of 86k with cushy pension and 3.5 months off every year.[/quote]
I’ve never heard of a teacher making six digits, so I find it very hard to believe that they make an average of $86K. You’ll need to cite a source on that one.
Although I’m a big critic of state worker compensation, I hesitate to lump teachers in with the rest.
I know many smart people who would never choose to be a teacher because of the poor compensation. I’ve never heard of anyone turning down a firefighter job because of the pay.
We need to be selective about where we cut:
Cut education and we deny our children future opportunities.
Cut firefighter and other state worker’s pensions (e.g. CalTrans), and we save our children from massive tax burdens when they are adults.
[quote]Yes, illegal immigrants is a big problem. In Santa Ana, 80% of the students are children of illegals.[/quote]
That’s a pretty extreme statistic – Got a source?
The illegal immigration “problem” is massively exaggerated. And even if it were a problem, how do we stop spending on them? What specifically do we cut?
We don’t need scapegoats, we need solutions.
February 1, 2011 at 7:23 AM #661215Guest[quote=EmilyHicks]Tackling a failed pension system should be the first thing to do.[/quote]
The pension system is a time bomb – I’ve brought this up many times. However the problems with the pension system do not impact the current budget. (It’s just our children that will bear this massive burden.)
Governor Brown has to solve the immediate problem first.
I do agree that public safety compensation is out of control and fraud is rampant. I have no doubt that we could receive the same level of service at a fraction of the cost. We could pay firefighters less than six digits and still be just as safe.
[quote]And NO, teachers are not underpaid. They make an average of 86k with cushy pension and 3.5 months off every year.[/quote]
I’ve never heard of a teacher making six digits, so I find it very hard to believe that they make an average of $86K. You’ll need to cite a source on that one.
Although I’m a big critic of state worker compensation, I hesitate to lump teachers in with the rest.
I know many smart people who would never choose to be a teacher because of the poor compensation. I’ve never heard of anyone turning down a firefighter job because of the pay.
We need to be selective about where we cut:
Cut education and we deny our children future opportunities.
Cut firefighter and other state worker’s pensions (e.g. CalTrans), and we save our children from massive tax burdens when they are adults.
[quote]Yes, illegal immigrants is a big problem. In Santa Ana, 80% of the students are children of illegals.[/quote]
That’s a pretty extreme statistic – Got a source?
The illegal immigration “problem” is massively exaggerated. And even if it were a problem, how do we stop spending on them? What specifically do we cut?
We don’t need scapegoats, we need solutions.
February 1, 2011 at 7:23 AM #661546Guest[quote=EmilyHicks]Tackling a failed pension system should be the first thing to do.[/quote]
The pension system is a time bomb – I’ve brought this up many times. However the problems with the pension system do not impact the current budget. (It’s just our children that will bear this massive burden.)
Governor Brown has to solve the immediate problem first.
I do agree that public safety compensation is out of control and fraud is rampant. I have no doubt that we could receive the same level of service at a fraction of the cost. We could pay firefighters less than six digits and still be just as safe.
[quote]And NO, teachers are not underpaid. They make an average of 86k with cushy pension and 3.5 months off every year.[/quote]
I’ve never heard of a teacher making six digits, so I find it very hard to believe that they make an average of $86K. You’ll need to cite a source on that one.
Although I’m a big critic of state worker compensation, I hesitate to lump teachers in with the rest.
I know many smart people who would never choose to be a teacher because of the poor compensation. I’ve never heard of anyone turning down a firefighter job because of the pay.
We need to be selective about where we cut:
Cut education and we deny our children future opportunities.
Cut firefighter and other state worker’s pensions (e.g. CalTrans), and we save our children from massive tax burdens when they are adults.
[quote]Yes, illegal immigrants is a big problem. In Santa Ana, 80% of the students are children of illegals.[/quote]
That’s a pretty extreme statistic – Got a source?
The illegal immigration “problem” is massively exaggerated. And even if it were a problem, how do we stop spending on them? What specifically do we cut?
We don’t need scapegoats, we need solutions.
February 1, 2011 at 7:50 AM #660419ParticipantFrom this Article, average mid career salary for teachers:
Anaheim Union: 86.7k
Cypress Elementary: 70k
Huntington Beach High: 81k
Laguna Beach: 80kAnd don’t forget about the 3.5 months off.
February 1, 2011 at 7:50 AM #660483ParticipantFrom this Article, average mid career salary for teachers:
Anaheim Union: 86.7k
Cypress Elementary: 70k
Huntington Beach High: 81k
Laguna Beach: 80kAnd don’t forget about the 3.5 months off.
February 1, 2011 at 7:50 AM #661086ParticipantFrom this Article, average mid career salary for teachers:
Anaheim Union: 86.7k
Cypress Elementary: 70k
Huntington Beach High: 81k
Laguna Beach: 80kAnd don’t forget about the 3.5 months off.
February 1, 2011 at 7:50 AM #661225ParticipantFrom this Article, average mid career salary for teachers:
Anaheim Union: 86.7k
Cypress Elementary: 70k
Huntington Beach High: 81k
Laguna Beach: 80kAnd don’t forget about the 3.5 months off.
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