OT/ ” I Have The Pu–y, I Make The Rules”

[davelj]

[quote=CBad]Wow, some people’s concept of what they think marriage is like and what women really want is seriously warped.

And I’m sure your girlfriend, who lives in Canada, is fantastic.[/quote]

It all comes back to The Onion eventually:

“Canadian Girlfriend Unsubstantiated”
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/38767

[davelj]

[quote=Casca] the foreign bride route is for those who can’t compete, or don’t want to, in their own culture.[/quote]

I think there is something to this, but it’s an incomplete statement. I think in many cases the “foreign bride route” is not about competition, per se, but rather about what you “think” you’re going to have to put up with (thus, kind of a control/freedom issue, for lack of a better word).

For example, I have a friend that’s married to a woman from Latvia. Always told me he’d never marry an American woman. Why? In his view – and I don’t entirely disagree – American women tend to have inflated expectations of what marriage should entail relative to many women in other parts of the world. Fairly or unfairly, that’s probably the case, in general terms. So, he’d date American women, but would never marry one. And he had lots to choose from as he makes a lot of cake and is quite charming – so this was definitely not a competitive issue. So, now he’s almost ten years into it with a couple of kids and everything’s fairly copacetic – he has no real complaints. Things have worked out pretty much as he planned, but… he did note the following (I’m paraphrasing): “Every year that passes, she becomes more Americanized in small ways, which is unavoidable. So, I’m still happy with my decision, but the difference between her value system and that of my friends’ (American-born) wives shrinks a little as time passes.”

Here’s my point: While marrying a non-American woman for the reasons my friend did may make some men happier for a period of time, that particular aspect of “marginal contentment” will likely subside over time. There’s no free lunch.

[davelj]

[quote=Casca] the foreign bride route is for those who can’t compete, or don’t want to, in their own culture.[/quote]

I think there is something to this, but it’s an incomplete statement. I think in many cases the “foreign bride route” is not about competition, per se, but rather about what you “think” you’re going to have to put up with (thus, kind of a control/freedom issue, for lack of a better word).

For example, I have a friend that’s married to a woman from Latvia. Always told me he’d never marry an American woman. Why? In his view – and I don’t entirely disagree – American women tend to have inflated expectations of what marriage should entail relative to many women in other parts of the world. Fairly or unfairly, that’s probably the case, in general terms. So, he’d date American women, but would never marry one. And he had lots to choose from as he makes a lot of cake and is quite charming – so this was definitely not a competitive issue. So, now he’s almost ten years into it with a couple of kids and everything’s fairly copacetic – he has no real complaints. Things have worked out pretty much as he planned, but… he did note the following (I’m paraphrasing): “Every year that passes, she becomes more Americanized in small ways, which is unavoidable. So, I’m still happy with my decision, but the difference between her value system and that of my friends’ (American-born) wives shrinks a little as time passes.”

Here’s my point: While marrying a non-American woman for the reasons my friend did may make some men happier for a period of time, that particular aspect of “marginal contentment” will likely subside over time. There’s no free lunch.

[davelj]

[quote=Casca] the foreign bride route is for those who can’t compete, or don’t want to, in their own culture.[/quote]

I think there is something to this, but it’s an incomplete statement. I think in many cases the “foreign bride route” is not about competition, per se, but rather about what you “think” you’re going to have to put up with (thus, kind of a control/freedom issue, for lack of a better word).

For example, I have a friend that’s married to a woman from Latvia. Always told me he’d never marry an American woman. Why? In his view – and I don’t entirely disagree – American women tend to have inflated expectations of what marriage should entail relative to many women in other parts of the world. Fairly or unfairly, that’s probably the case, in general terms. So, he’d date American women, but would never marry one. And he had lots to choose from as he makes a lot of cake and is quite charming – so this was definitely not a competitive issue. So, now he’s almost ten years into it with a couple of kids and everything’s fairly copacetic – he has no real complaints. Things have worked out pretty much as he planned, but… he did note the following (I’m paraphrasing): “Every year that passes, she becomes more Americanized in small ways, which is unavoidable. So, I’m still happy with my decision, but the difference between her value system and that of my friends’ (American-born) wives shrinks a little as time passes.”

Here’s my point: While marrying a non-American woman for the reasons my friend did may make some men happier for a period of time, that particular aspect of “marginal contentment” will likely subside over time. There’s no free lunch.

[davelj]

[quote=Casca] the foreign bride route is for those who can’t compete, or don’t want to, in their own culture.[/quote]

I think there is something to this, but it’s an incomplete statement. I think in many cases the “foreign bride route” is not about competition, per se, but rather about what you “think” you’re going to have to put up with (thus, kind of a control/freedom issue, for lack of a better word).

For example, I have a friend that’s married to a woman from Latvia. Always told me he’d never marry an American woman. Why? In his view – and I don’t entirely disagree – American women tend to have inflated expectations of what marriage should entail relative to many women in other parts of the world. Fairly or unfairly, that’s probably the case, in general terms. So, he’d date American women, but would never marry one. And he had lots to choose from as he makes a lot of cake and is quite charming – so this was definitely not a competitive issue. So, now he’s almost ten years into it with a couple of kids and everything’s fairly copacetic – he has no real complaints. Things have worked out pretty much as he planned, but… he did note the following (I’m paraphrasing): “Every year that passes, she becomes more Americanized in small ways, which is unavoidable. So, I’m still happy with my decision, but the difference between her value system and that of my friends’ (American-born) wives shrinks a little as time passes.”

Here’s my point: While marrying a non-American woman for the reasons my friend did may make some men happier for a period of time, that particular aspect of “marginal contentment” will likely subside over time. There’s no free lunch.

[davelj]

[quote=Casca] the foreign bride route is for those who can’t compete, or don’t want to, in their own culture.[/quote]

I think there is something to this, but it’s an incomplete statement. I think in many cases the “foreign bride route” is not about competition, per se, but rather about what you “think” you’re going to have to put up with (thus, kind of a control/freedom issue, for lack of a better word).

For example, I have a friend that’s married to a woman from Latvia. Always told me he’d never marry an American woman. Why? In his view – and I don’t entirely disagree – American women tend to have inflated expectations of what marriage should entail relative to many women in other parts of the world. Fairly or unfairly, that’s probably the case, in general terms. So, he’d date American women, but would never marry one. And he had lots to choose from as he makes a lot of cake and is quite charming – so this was definitely not a competitive issue. So, now he’s almost ten years into it with a couple of kids and everything’s fairly copacetic – he has no real complaints. Things have worked out pretty much as he planned, but… he did note the following (I’m paraphrasing): “Every year that passes, she becomes more Americanized in small ways, which is unavoidable. So, I’m still happy with my decision, but the difference between her value system and that of my friends’ (American-born) wives shrinks a little as time passes.”

Here’s my point: While marrying a non-American woman for the reasons my friend did may make some men happier for a period of time, that particular aspect of “marginal contentment” will likely subside over time. There’s no free lunch.

[Aecetia]

Yes, Allan you have the keys to success with women. I would also add, tell the truth right up front. If a man never wants to marry or never wants to have children, he should say so. That way the woman knows what she is getting involved in. If she is dopey enough to think she can change him, then it is on her. I do not like the games people play on both sides. Deceit is a real deal breaker.

[Aecetia]

Yes, Allan you have the keys to success with women. I would also add, tell the truth right up front. If a man never wants to marry or never wants to have children, he should say so. That way the woman knows what she is getting involved in. If she is dopey enough to think she can change him, then it is on her. I do not like the games people play on both sides. Deceit is a real deal breaker.

[Aecetia]

Yes, Allan you have the keys to success with women. I would also add, tell the truth right up front. If a man never wants to marry or never wants to have children, he should say so. That way the woman knows what she is getting involved in. If she is dopey enough to think she can change him, then it is on her. I do not like the games people play on both sides. Deceit is a real deal breaker.

[Aecetia]

Yes, Allan you have the keys to success with women. I would also add, tell the truth right up front. If a man never wants to marry or never wants to have children, he should say so. That way the woman knows what she is getting involved in. If she is dopey enough to think she can change him, then it is on her. I do not like the games people play on both sides. Deceit is a real deal breaker.

[Aecetia]

Yes, Allan you have the keys to success with women. I would also add, tell the truth right up front. If a man never wants to marry or never wants to have children, he should say so. That way the woman knows what she is getting involved in. If she is dopey enough to think she can change him, then it is on her. I do not like the games people play on both sides. Deceit is a real deal breaker.

[davelj]

[quote=equalizer]
“ABCNEWS put together an experiment to test just how willing women are to date shorter men. We brought together several short men and asked them to stand next to taller men. We invited groups of women to look at the men and choose a date.

To see if the women would go for short guys who were successful, ABCNEWS’ Lynn Sherr created extraordinary résumés for the shorter men. She told the women that the shorter men included a doctor, a best-selling author, a champion skier, a venture capitalist who’d made millions by the age of 25.

Nothing worked. The women always chose the tall men. Sherr asked whether there’d be anything she could say that would make the shortest of the men, who was 5 feet, irresistible. One of the women replied, “Maybe the only thing you could say is that the other four are murderers.” Another backed her up, saying that had the taller men had a criminal record she might have been swayed to choose a shorter man. Another said she’d have considered the shorter men, if the taller men had been described as “child molesters.”

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Story?id=123853&page=2%5B/quote%5D

As I like to point out here, we humans have been “civilized” for less than 1% of our existence. Our core thinking and genetic make-up are not materially different than they were when we lived as cave dwellers in the bush. We just have highly advanced accoutrements. Evolutionary psychology explains an enormous amount of what we see around us in terms of human interaction. We’re just cave dwellers with cars.

[davelj]

[quote=equalizer]
“ABCNEWS put together an experiment to test just how willing women are to date shorter men. We brought together several short men and asked them to stand next to taller men. We invited groups of women to look at the men and choose a date.

To see if the women would go for short guys who were successful, ABCNEWS’ Lynn Sherr created extraordinary résumés for the shorter men. She told the women that the shorter men included a doctor, a best-selling author, a champion skier, a venture capitalist who’d made millions by the age of 25.

Nothing worked. The women always chose the tall men. Sherr asked whether there’d be anything she could say that would make the shortest of the men, who was 5 feet, irresistible. One of the women replied, “Maybe the only thing you could say is that the other four are murderers.” Another backed her up, saying that had the taller men had a criminal record she might have been swayed to choose a shorter man. Another said she’d have considered the shorter men, if the taller men had been described as “child molesters.”

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Story?id=123853&page=2%5B/quote%5D

As I like to point out here, we humans have been “civilized” for less than 1% of our existence. Our core thinking and genetic make-up are not materially different than they were when we lived as cave dwellers in the bush. We just have highly advanced accoutrements. Evolutionary psychology explains an enormous amount of what we see around us in terms of human interaction. We’re just cave dwellers with cars.

[davelj]

[quote=equalizer]
“ABCNEWS put together an experiment to test just how willing women are to date shorter men. We brought together several short men and asked them to stand next to taller men. We invited groups of women to look at the men and choose a date.

To see if the women would go for short guys who were successful, ABCNEWS’ Lynn Sherr created extraordinary résumés for the shorter men. She told the women that the shorter men included a doctor, a best-selling author, a champion skier, a venture capitalist who’d made millions by the age of 25.

Nothing worked. The women always chose the tall men. Sherr asked whether there’d be anything she could say that would make the shortest of the men, who was 5 feet, irresistible. One of the women replied, “Maybe the only thing you could say is that the other four are murderers.” Another backed her up, saying that had the taller men had a criminal record she might have been swayed to choose a shorter man. Another said she’d have considered the shorter men, if the taller men had been described as “child molesters.”

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Story?id=123853&page=2%5B/quote%5D

As I like to point out here, we humans have been “civilized” for less than 1% of our existence. Our core thinking and genetic make-up are not materially different than they were when we lived as cave dwellers in the bush. We just have highly advanced accoutrements. Evolutionary psychology explains an enormous amount of what we see around us in terms of human interaction. We’re just cave dwellers with cars.

[davelj]

[quote=equalizer]
“ABCNEWS put together an experiment to test just how willing women are to date shorter men. We brought together several short men and asked them to stand next to taller men. We invited groups of women to look at the men and choose a date.

To see if the women would go for short guys who were successful, ABCNEWS’ Lynn Sherr created extraordinary résumés for the shorter men. She told the women that the shorter men included a doctor, a best-selling author, a champion skier, a venture capitalist who’d made millions by the age of 25.

Nothing worked. The women always chose the tall men. Sherr asked whether there’d be anything she could say that would make the shortest of the men, who was 5 feet, irresistible. One of the women replied, “Maybe the only thing you could say is that the other four are murderers.” Another backed her up, saying that had the taller men had a criminal record she might have been swayed to choose a shorter man. Another said she’d have considered the shorter men, if the taller men had been described as “child molesters.”

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Story?id=123853&page=2%5B/quote%5D

As I like to point out here, we humans have been “civilized” for less than 1% of our existence. Our core thinking and genetic make-up are not materially different than they were when we lived as cave dwellers in the bush. We just have highly advanced accoutrements. Evolutionary psychology explains an enormous amount of what we see around us in terms of human interaction. We’re just cave dwellers with cars.

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