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October 29, 2009 at 3:33 PM #476309October 29, 2009 at 3:49 PM #475466AnonymousGuest
[quote=flu][quote=Ricechex][quote=briansd1]analyzing why oh why did I have to go through so many attempts at a relationship, with more than often not even getting beyond first base…AKA getting beyond the “let’s be friends bullshit”….And my “data” has lend be to believe the following…It’s not about how nice your are.. Attracting the other gender is a lot like being a great salesman. One needs market oneself of one’s qualities and perhaps even needs to oversell them in particular cases. Especially so for men, because it is very very unusual that women go out their way to ever ask men out…again, the traditional relationship roles of men bending over backwards to impress/chase after women. We have not evolved such that women would try to talk to a very quite guy sitting at a table, for instance. So this ERA really isn’t “equal” (well anyway)….And there is still that amount of girl talk among woman for which woman talk about “when is he going to call you.” Out of all the people that I have dated, very few ever were the first to call me back even after both of us liked each other….So “salesmanship” is the key. And that brings me to the next point.
There are plenty of enginerds who are single for that very reason…The inability to market oneself. To some extent, that’s why we’re enginerds, and because we lack the salesmanship to, well, ummmm sell. (Hey, I’m one of them.. But I’ll be honest about that.) And that leads to the next problem…..If you can’t market what you think are the actual good qualities about you for which you want that woman to like you for, women that are looking for those qualities won’t know and will pass you up, and then what you’re left with are only the women that would remotely look at the most conspicuous superficial qualities you “have” IE do you drive a nice car, do you have money, do you have a greencard, etc….And, as an enginerd, I can say, that in itself is a problem…if in doubt, just look at your W-2 :)… And that is why you need to learn how to market yourself. Not only will it help your career by helping you move up…more than likely it will solve your personal life issues too. Same game, different playing field.
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Okay everyone…..I am going to give this to you very straight….It is this simple…..Any man or woman who can not get dates is because they are not willing to date people who are their equal or below….The only thing the opposite sex is interested in is physical appearance and personality….Most people over exaggerate their appearance and personality…..They can not get dates because they are not willing to face reality….They are not as good looking as they think…..Your “value” is what you can date and it is nothing more than that…..If you want to date someone who is more attractive than you, you must give something up…..You are going to have to pay a price….An example would be that you are going to have to put up with the woman being a b-tch, smoking cigarettes, drugs, five bratty kids, buying her a big house etc…I hear woman say, “where are all the good men.”…..There are plenty of great guys out there that would kiss their asses, but these woman would not even consider dating these guys because they are not attractive enough for them…The same goes for men….There are plenty of woman out there that would make great partners but you want a beautiful woman…….So, you can face reality and enjoy the opposite sex, or you can be in denial and be angry at the opposite sex….
October 29, 2009 at 3:49 PM #475643AnonymousGuest[quote=flu][quote=Ricechex][quote=briansd1]analyzing why oh why did I have to go through so many attempts at a relationship, with more than often not even getting beyond first base…AKA getting beyond the “let’s be friends bullshit”….And my “data” has lend be to believe the following…It’s not about how nice your are.. Attracting the other gender is a lot like being a great salesman. One needs market oneself of one’s qualities and perhaps even needs to oversell them in particular cases. Especially so for men, because it is very very unusual that women go out their way to ever ask men out…again, the traditional relationship roles of men bending over backwards to impress/chase after women. We have not evolved such that women would try to talk to a very quite guy sitting at a table, for instance. So this ERA really isn’t “equal” (well anyway)….And there is still that amount of girl talk among woman for which woman talk about “when is he going to call you.” Out of all the people that I have dated, very few ever were the first to call me back even after both of us liked each other….So “salesmanship” is the key. And that brings me to the next point.
There are plenty of enginerds who are single for that very reason…The inability to market oneself. To some extent, that’s why we’re enginerds, and because we lack the salesmanship to, well, ummmm sell. (Hey, I’m one of them.. But I’ll be honest about that.) And that leads to the next problem…..If you can’t market what you think are the actual good qualities about you for which you want that woman to like you for, women that are looking for those qualities won’t know and will pass you up, and then what you’re left with are only the women that would remotely look at the most conspicuous superficial qualities you “have” IE do you drive a nice car, do you have money, do you have a greencard, etc….And, as an enginerd, I can say, that in itself is a problem…if in doubt, just look at your W-2 :)… And that is why you need to learn how to market yourself. Not only will it help your career by helping you move up…more than likely it will solve your personal life issues too. Same game, different playing field.
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Okay everyone…..I am going to give this to you very straight….It is this simple…..Any man or woman who can not get dates is because they are not willing to date people who are their equal or below….The only thing the opposite sex is interested in is physical appearance and personality….Most people over exaggerate their appearance and personality…..They can not get dates because they are not willing to face reality….They are not as good looking as they think…..Your “value” is what you can date and it is nothing more than that…..If you want to date someone who is more attractive than you, you must give something up…..You are going to have to pay a price….An example would be that you are going to have to put up with the woman being a b-tch, smoking cigarettes, drugs, five bratty kids, buying her a big house etc…I hear woman say, “where are all the good men.”…..There are plenty of great guys out there that would kiss their asses, but these woman would not even consider dating these guys because they are not attractive enough for them…The same goes for men….There are plenty of woman out there that would make great partners but you want a beautiful woman…….So, you can face reality and enjoy the opposite sex, or you can be in denial and be angry at the opposite sex….
October 29, 2009 at 3:49 PM #476004AnonymousGuest[quote=flu][quote=Ricechex][quote=briansd1]analyzing why oh why did I have to go through so many attempts at a relationship, with more than often not even getting beyond first base…AKA getting beyond the “let’s be friends bullshit”….And my “data” has lend be to believe the following…It’s not about how nice your are.. Attracting the other gender is a lot like being a great salesman. One needs market oneself of one’s qualities and perhaps even needs to oversell them in particular cases. Especially so for men, because it is very very unusual that women go out their way to ever ask men out…again, the traditional relationship roles of men bending over backwards to impress/chase after women. We have not evolved such that women would try to talk to a very quite guy sitting at a table, for instance. So this ERA really isn’t “equal” (well anyway)….And there is still that amount of girl talk among woman for which woman talk about “when is he going to call you.” Out of all the people that I have dated, very few ever were the first to call me back even after both of us liked each other….So “salesmanship” is the key. And that brings me to the next point.
There are plenty of enginerds who are single for that very reason…The inability to market oneself. To some extent, that’s why we’re enginerds, and because we lack the salesmanship to, well, ummmm sell. (Hey, I’m one of them.. But I’ll be honest about that.) And that leads to the next problem…..If you can’t market what you think are the actual good qualities about you for which you want that woman to like you for, women that are looking for those qualities won’t know and will pass you up, and then what you’re left with are only the women that would remotely look at the most conspicuous superficial qualities you “have” IE do you drive a nice car, do you have money, do you have a greencard, etc….And, as an enginerd, I can say, that in itself is a problem…if in doubt, just look at your W-2 :)… And that is why you need to learn how to market yourself. Not only will it help your career by helping you move up…more than likely it will solve your personal life issues too. Same game, different playing field.
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Okay everyone…..I am going to give this to you very straight….It is this simple…..Any man or woman who can not get dates is because they are not willing to date people who are their equal or below….The only thing the opposite sex is interested in is physical appearance and personality….Most people over exaggerate their appearance and personality…..They can not get dates because they are not willing to face reality….They are not as good looking as they think…..Your “value” is what you can date and it is nothing more than that…..If you want to date someone who is more attractive than you, you must give something up…..You are going to have to pay a price….An example would be that you are going to have to put up with the woman being a b-tch, smoking cigarettes, drugs, five bratty kids, buying her a big house etc…I hear woman say, “where are all the good men.”…..There are plenty of great guys out there that would kiss their asses, but these woman would not even consider dating these guys because they are not attractive enough for them…The same goes for men….There are plenty of woman out there that would make great partners but you want a beautiful woman…….So, you can face reality and enjoy the opposite sex, or you can be in denial and be angry at the opposite sex….
October 29, 2009 at 3:49 PM #476080AnonymousGuest[quote=flu][quote=Ricechex][quote=briansd1]analyzing why oh why did I have to go through so many attempts at a relationship, with more than often not even getting beyond first base…AKA getting beyond the “let’s be friends bullshit”….And my “data” has lend be to believe the following…It’s not about how nice your are.. Attracting the other gender is a lot like being a great salesman. One needs market oneself of one’s qualities and perhaps even needs to oversell them in particular cases. Especially so for men, because it is very very unusual that women go out their way to ever ask men out…again, the traditional relationship roles of men bending over backwards to impress/chase after women. We have not evolved such that women would try to talk to a very quite guy sitting at a table, for instance. So this ERA really isn’t “equal” (well anyway)….And there is still that amount of girl talk among woman for which woman talk about “when is he going to call you.” Out of all the people that I have dated, very few ever were the first to call me back even after both of us liked each other….So “salesmanship” is the key. And that brings me to the next point.
There are plenty of enginerds who are single for that very reason…The inability to market oneself. To some extent, that’s why we’re enginerds, and because we lack the salesmanship to, well, ummmm sell. (Hey, I’m one of them.. But I’ll be honest about that.) And that leads to the next problem…..If you can’t market what you think are the actual good qualities about you for which you want that woman to like you for, women that are looking for those qualities won’t know and will pass you up, and then what you’re left with are only the women that would remotely look at the most conspicuous superficial qualities you “have” IE do you drive a nice car, do you have money, do you have a greencard, etc….And, as an enginerd, I can say, that in itself is a problem…if in doubt, just look at your W-2 :)… And that is why you need to learn how to market yourself. Not only will it help your career by helping you move up…more than likely it will solve your personal life issues too. Same game, different playing field.
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Okay everyone…..I am going to give this to you very straight….It is this simple…..Any man or woman who can not get dates is because they are not willing to date people who are their equal or below….The only thing the opposite sex is interested in is physical appearance and personality….Most people over exaggerate their appearance and personality…..They can not get dates because they are not willing to face reality….They are not as good looking as they think…..Your “value” is what you can date and it is nothing more than that…..If you want to date someone who is more attractive than you, you must give something up…..You are going to have to pay a price….An example would be that you are going to have to put up with the woman being a b-tch, smoking cigarettes, drugs, five bratty kids, buying her a big house etc…I hear woman say, “where are all the good men.”…..There are plenty of great guys out there that would kiss their asses, but these woman would not even consider dating these guys because they are not attractive enough for them…The same goes for men….There are plenty of woman out there that would make great partners but you want a beautiful woman…….So, you can face reality and enjoy the opposite sex, or you can be in denial and be angry at the opposite sex….
October 29, 2009 at 3:49 PM #476305AnonymousGuest[quote=flu][quote=Ricechex][quote=briansd1]analyzing why oh why did I have to go through so many attempts at a relationship, with more than often not even getting beyond first base…AKA getting beyond the “let’s be friends bullshit”….And my “data” has lend be to believe the following…It’s not about how nice your are.. Attracting the other gender is a lot like being a great salesman. One needs market oneself of one’s qualities and perhaps even needs to oversell them in particular cases. Especially so for men, because it is very very unusual that women go out their way to ever ask men out…again, the traditional relationship roles of men bending over backwards to impress/chase after women. We have not evolved such that women would try to talk to a very quite guy sitting at a table, for instance. So this ERA really isn’t “equal” (well anyway)….And there is still that amount of girl talk among woman for which woman talk about “when is he going to call you.” Out of all the people that I have dated, very few ever were the first to call me back even after both of us liked each other….So “salesmanship” is the key. And that brings me to the next point.
There are plenty of enginerds who are single for that very reason…The inability to market oneself. To some extent, that’s why we’re enginerds, and because we lack the salesmanship to, well, ummmm sell. (Hey, I’m one of them.. But I’ll be honest about that.) And that leads to the next problem…..If you can’t market what you think are the actual good qualities about you for which you want that woman to like you for, women that are looking for those qualities won’t know and will pass you up, and then what you’re left with are only the women that would remotely look at the most conspicuous superficial qualities you “have” IE do you drive a nice car, do you have money, do you have a greencard, etc….And, as an enginerd, I can say, that in itself is a problem…if in doubt, just look at your W-2 :)… And that is why you need to learn how to market yourself. Not only will it help your career by helping you move up…more than likely it will solve your personal life issues too. Same game, different playing field.
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Okay everyone…..I am going to give this to you very straight….It is this simple…..Any man or woman who can not get dates is because they are not willing to date people who are their equal or below….The only thing the opposite sex is interested in is physical appearance and personality….Most people over exaggerate their appearance and personality…..They can not get dates because they are not willing to face reality….They are not as good looking as they think…..Your “value” is what you can date and it is nothing more than that…..If you want to date someone who is more attractive than you, you must give something up…..You are going to have to pay a price….An example would be that you are going to have to put up with the woman being a b-tch, smoking cigarettes, drugs, five bratty kids, buying her a big house etc…I hear woman say, “where are all the good men.”…..There are plenty of great guys out there that would kiss their asses, but these woman would not even consider dating these guys because they are not attractive enough for them…The same goes for men….There are plenty of woman out there that would make great partners but you want a beautiful woman…….So, you can face reality and enjoy the opposite sex, or you can be in denial and be angry at the opposite sex….
October 29, 2009 at 3:52 PM #475476briansd1GuestTo me, dealing with women is one thing.
The real problem is the current modern concept of marriage and the lifestyle associated with it.
Do you want to spend your weekend lying to your MIL about how you really “enjoy” helping her with the dishes and the BBQ?
Do want to run to the store and buy her the butter or whatever she ran out of?
Do you want to bail-out your wife’s brother because he made a bad investment?
Do you really want to join your wife’s sisters’ families on a trip to Disneyland?
Do you want to run to the your MIL’s bed-side whenever she has some minor ailments. Of course, she’s lonely so there’s always some drama.
Do you want to not have any individual time of your own?
Do you want to live the rest of your life like that?
True story here:
Whenever I see my brother for lunch for example, his gf calls right when he comes over. She then calls right before lunch to see what he’s having. Then she calls again right after lunch to see what he had. Then she calls again to see when he’s coming home. Then she calls again to ask if he would buy something on the way back.I tell him not to answer the phone. But if he doesn’t she’ll call non-stop. He’s a nice guy so he answers. Idiot!
As Acetia said, that’s the result of liberal teachings where “young males are being feminized and medicated for being boys in the public schools.”
October 29, 2009 at 3:52 PM #475652briansd1GuestTo me, dealing with women is one thing.
The real problem is the current modern concept of marriage and the lifestyle associated with it.
Do you want to spend your weekend lying to your MIL about how you really “enjoy” helping her with the dishes and the BBQ?
Do want to run to the store and buy her the butter or whatever she ran out of?
Do you want to bail-out your wife’s brother because he made a bad investment?
Do you really want to join your wife’s sisters’ families on a trip to Disneyland?
Do you want to run to the your MIL’s bed-side whenever she has some minor ailments. Of course, she’s lonely so there’s always some drama.
Do you want to not have any individual time of your own?
Do you want to live the rest of your life like that?
True story here:
Whenever I see my brother for lunch for example, his gf calls right when he comes over. She then calls right before lunch to see what he’s having. Then she calls again right after lunch to see what he had. Then she calls again to see when he’s coming home. Then she calls again to ask if he would buy something on the way back.I tell him not to answer the phone. But if he doesn’t she’ll call non-stop. He’s a nice guy so he answers. Idiot!
As Acetia said, that’s the result of liberal teachings where “young males are being feminized and medicated for being boys in the public schools.”
October 29, 2009 at 3:52 PM #476014briansd1GuestTo me, dealing with women is one thing.
The real problem is the current modern concept of marriage and the lifestyle associated with it.
Do you want to spend your weekend lying to your MIL about how you really “enjoy” helping her with the dishes and the BBQ?
Do want to run to the store and buy her the butter or whatever she ran out of?
Do you want to bail-out your wife’s brother because he made a bad investment?
Do you really want to join your wife’s sisters’ families on a trip to Disneyland?
Do you want to run to the your MIL’s bed-side whenever she has some minor ailments. Of course, she’s lonely so there’s always some drama.
Do you want to not have any individual time of your own?
Do you want to live the rest of your life like that?
True story here:
Whenever I see my brother for lunch for example, his gf calls right when he comes over. She then calls right before lunch to see what he’s having. Then she calls again right after lunch to see what he had. Then she calls again to see when he’s coming home. Then she calls again to ask if he would buy something on the way back.I tell him not to answer the phone. But if he doesn’t she’ll call non-stop. He’s a nice guy so he answers. Idiot!
As Acetia said, that’s the result of liberal teachings where “young males are being feminized and medicated for being boys in the public schools.”
October 29, 2009 at 3:52 PM #476090briansd1GuestTo me, dealing with women is one thing.
The real problem is the current modern concept of marriage and the lifestyle associated with it.
Do you want to spend your weekend lying to your MIL about how you really “enjoy” helping her with the dishes and the BBQ?
Do want to run to the store and buy her the butter or whatever she ran out of?
Do you want to bail-out your wife’s brother because he made a bad investment?
Do you really want to join your wife’s sisters’ families on a trip to Disneyland?
Do you want to run to the your MIL’s bed-side whenever she has some minor ailments. Of course, she’s lonely so there’s always some drama.
Do you want to not have any individual time of your own?
Do you want to live the rest of your life like that?
True story here:
Whenever I see my brother for lunch for example, his gf calls right when he comes over. She then calls right before lunch to see what he’s having. Then she calls again right after lunch to see what he had. Then she calls again to see when he’s coming home. Then she calls again to ask if he would buy something on the way back.I tell him not to answer the phone. But if he doesn’t she’ll call non-stop. He’s a nice guy so he answers. Idiot!
As Acetia said, that’s the result of liberal teachings where “young males are being feminized and medicated for being boys in the public schools.”
October 29, 2009 at 3:52 PM #476313briansd1GuestTo me, dealing with women is one thing.
The real problem is the current modern concept of marriage and the lifestyle associated with it.
Do you want to spend your weekend lying to your MIL about how you really “enjoy” helping her with the dishes and the BBQ?
Do want to run to the store and buy her the butter or whatever she ran out of?
Do you want to bail-out your wife’s brother because he made a bad investment?
Do you really want to join your wife’s sisters’ families on a trip to Disneyland?
Do you want to run to the your MIL’s bed-side whenever she has some minor ailments. Of course, she’s lonely so there’s always some drama.
Do you want to not have any individual time of your own?
Do you want to live the rest of your life like that?
True story here:
Whenever I see my brother for lunch for example, his gf calls right when he comes over. She then calls right before lunch to see what he’s having. Then she calls again right after lunch to see what he had. Then she calls again to see when he’s coming home. Then she calls again to ask if he would buy something on the way back.I tell him not to answer the phone. But if he doesn’t she’ll call non-stop. He’s a nice guy so he answers. Idiot!
As Acetia said, that’s the result of liberal teachings where “young males are being feminized and medicated for being boys in the public schools.”
October 29, 2009 at 4:26 PM #475491CoronitaParticipant[quote=briansd1]To me, dealing with women is one thing.
The real problem is the current modern concept of marriage and the lifestyle associated with it.
Do you want to spend your weekend lying to your MIL about how you really “enjoy” helping her with the dishes and the BBQ?
Do want to run to the store and buy her the butter or whatever she ran out of?
Do you want to bail-out your wife’s brother because he made a bad investment?
Do you really want to join your wife’s sisters’ families on a trip to Disneyland?
Do you want to run to the your MIL’s bed-side whenever she has some minor ailments. Of course, she’s lonely so there’s always some drama.
Do you want to not have any individual time of your own?
Do you want to live the rest of your life like that?
True story here:
Whenever I see my brother for lunch for example, his gf calls right when he comes over. She then calls right before lunch to see what he’s having. Then she calls again right after lunch to see what he had. Then she calls again to see when he’s coming home. Then she calls again to ask if he would buy something on the way back.I tell him not to answer the phone. But if he doesn’t she’ll call non-stop. He’s a nice guy so he answers. Idiot!
As Acetia said, that’s the result of liberal teachings where “young males are being feminized and medicated for being boys in the public schools.”[/quote]
Dude, maybe your brother likes having her call him. Have you ever heard him complain, he wish she wouldn’t?
October 29, 2009 at 4:26 PM #475667CoronitaParticipant[quote=briansd1]To me, dealing with women is one thing.
The real problem is the current modern concept of marriage and the lifestyle associated with it.
Do you want to spend your weekend lying to your MIL about how you really “enjoy” helping her with the dishes and the BBQ?
Do want to run to the store and buy her the butter or whatever she ran out of?
Do you want to bail-out your wife’s brother because he made a bad investment?
Do you really want to join your wife’s sisters’ families on a trip to Disneyland?
Do you want to run to the your MIL’s bed-side whenever she has some minor ailments. Of course, she’s lonely so there’s always some drama.
Do you want to not have any individual time of your own?
Do you want to live the rest of your life like that?
True story here:
Whenever I see my brother for lunch for example, his gf calls right when he comes over. She then calls right before lunch to see what he’s having. Then she calls again right after lunch to see what he had. Then she calls again to see when he’s coming home. Then she calls again to ask if he would buy something on the way back.I tell him not to answer the phone. But if he doesn’t she’ll call non-stop. He’s a nice guy so he answers. Idiot!
As Acetia said, that’s the result of liberal teachings where “young males are being feminized and medicated for being boys in the public schools.”[/quote]
Dude, maybe your brother likes having her call him. Have you ever heard him complain, he wish she wouldn’t?
October 29, 2009 at 4:26 PM #476029CoronitaParticipant[quote=briansd1]To me, dealing with women is one thing.
The real problem is the current modern concept of marriage and the lifestyle associated with it.
Do you want to spend your weekend lying to your MIL about how you really “enjoy” helping her with the dishes and the BBQ?
Do want to run to the store and buy her the butter or whatever she ran out of?
Do you want to bail-out your wife’s brother because he made a bad investment?
Do you really want to join your wife’s sisters’ families on a trip to Disneyland?
Do you want to run to the your MIL’s bed-side whenever she has some minor ailments. Of course, she’s lonely so there’s always some drama.
Do you want to not have any individual time of your own?
Do you want to live the rest of your life like that?
True story here:
Whenever I see my brother for lunch for example, his gf calls right when he comes over. She then calls right before lunch to see what he’s having. Then she calls again right after lunch to see what he had. Then she calls again to see when he’s coming home. Then she calls again to ask if he would buy something on the way back.I tell him not to answer the phone. But if he doesn’t she’ll call non-stop. He’s a nice guy so he answers. Idiot!
As Acetia said, that’s the result of liberal teachings where “young males are being feminized and medicated for being boys in the public schools.”[/quote]
Dude, maybe your brother likes having her call him. Have you ever heard him complain, he wish she wouldn’t?
October 29, 2009 at 4:26 PM #476105CoronitaParticipant[quote=briansd1]To me, dealing with women is one thing.
The real problem is the current modern concept of marriage and the lifestyle associated with it.
Do you want to spend your weekend lying to your MIL about how you really “enjoy” helping her with the dishes and the BBQ?
Do want to run to the store and buy her the butter or whatever she ran out of?
Do you want to bail-out your wife’s brother because he made a bad investment?
Do you really want to join your wife’s sisters’ families on a trip to Disneyland?
Do you want to run to the your MIL’s bed-side whenever she has some minor ailments. Of course, she’s lonely so there’s always some drama.
Do you want to not have any individual time of your own?
Do you want to live the rest of your life like that?
True story here:
Whenever I see my brother for lunch for example, his gf calls right when he comes over. She then calls right before lunch to see what he’s having. Then she calls again right after lunch to see what he had. Then she calls again to see when he’s coming home. Then she calls again to ask if he would buy something on the way back.I tell him not to answer the phone. But if he doesn’t she’ll call non-stop. He’s a nice guy so he answers. Idiot!
As Acetia said, that’s the result of liberal teachings where “young males are being feminized and medicated for being boys in the public schools.”[/quote]
Dude, maybe your brother likes having her call him. Have you ever heard him complain, he wish she wouldn’t?
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