OT/ ” I Have The Pu–y, I Make The Rules”

[CA renter]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
CAR: Aren’t there emerging statistics to support what you’re saying, in terms of the increasing number of single women choosing to have children not only outside of a marriage, but outside of a long-term committed relationship?

I can’t recall where I read the article, but there appears to be something of a groundswell regarding single women in their 20s and 30s that are opting out of the “nuclear family” option and choosing to intentionally go it alone.

Personally, I have my doubts about both marriage and monogamy and would opine that people should do whatever works best for them and not worry so much about societal conventions. I look at Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn, who, as I understand it, have been together for years and years and are not married.

Then I look at that nightmare involving Tom Cruise and his Cambodian Re-education Camp Parolee wife and their “happy marriage”.[/quote]

Yes, women have been doing this for the very reasons stated above. If anyone wants to see how well that’s turned out, just look at the African-American community with their greater than 75% out-of-wedlock births.

I agree that people should decide for themselves, but everyone has to pay the price for all the welfare kings/queens out there when people decide not to get married, yet conveniently forget to get “fixed” (MALE and female).

Thanks to all the happily married posters (both male and female) for sharing your more positive perspectives on marriage and relationships. 🙂

[temeculaguy]

[quote=Enorah]I feel really sad reading this thread[/quote]
Which is why I originally planned to stay out of this one, why make divide between the sexes deeper than it already is? If someone finds their way into an unhappy or unhealthy relationship, they should find their way out of it, the process will benefit them.

Whenever I’ve been in a conversation with a friend and we are talking about another friend in a relationship where it seems unpleasant, my first response is usually “well, maybe her’s shoots sparks or something.” I’ve done exhaustive research and women are similarly equipped, there are variances, but none are worth subjecting oneself to undue hardship for time spent with their anatomy.

It’s gotta be more than just sexual power or fear of financial loss. People get into, stay in, or create unhealthy/unbalanced relationships for a reason, one rooted in their own psychology, not their sexuality.

If you could waive a magic wand and free that guy of all financial loss, end his relationship and let him start over without pain or loss, he will likely end up in exactly the same situation he is in now. Another poster mentioned wife 1.0 and wife 2.0, the only reason wife 2.0 works was because of wife 1.0, not in spite of her.

Once again, life charges tuition for it’s lessons just like a university does, both are worth the money.

[temeculaguy]

[quote=Enorah]I feel really sad reading this thread[/quote]
Which is why I originally planned to stay out of this one, why make divide between the sexes deeper than it already is? If someone finds their way into an unhappy or unhealthy relationship, they should find their way out of it, the process will benefit them.

Whenever I’ve been in a conversation with a friend and we are talking about another friend in a relationship where it seems unpleasant, my first response is usually “well, maybe her’s shoots sparks or something.” I’ve done exhaustive research and women are similarly equipped, there are variances, but none are worth subjecting oneself to undue hardship for time spent with their anatomy.

It’s gotta be more than just sexual power or fear of financial loss. People get into, stay in, or create unhealthy/unbalanced relationships for a reason, one rooted in their own psychology, not their sexuality.

If you could waive a magic wand and free that guy of all financial loss, end his relationship and let him start over without pain or loss, he will likely end up in exactly the same situation he is in now. Another poster mentioned wife 1.0 and wife 2.0, the only reason wife 2.0 works was because of wife 1.0, not in spite of her.

Once again, life charges tuition for it’s lessons just like a university does, both are worth the money.

[temeculaguy]

[quote=Enorah]I feel really sad reading this thread[/quote]
Which is why I originally planned to stay out of this one, why make divide between the sexes deeper than it already is? If someone finds their way into an unhappy or unhealthy relationship, they should find their way out of it, the process will benefit them.

Whenever I’ve been in a conversation with a friend and we are talking about another friend in a relationship where it seems unpleasant, my first response is usually “well, maybe her’s shoots sparks or something.” I’ve done exhaustive research and women are similarly equipped, there are variances, but none are worth subjecting oneself to undue hardship for time spent with their anatomy.

It’s gotta be more than just sexual power or fear of financial loss. People get into, stay in, or create unhealthy/unbalanced relationships for a reason, one rooted in their own psychology, not their sexuality.

If you could waive a magic wand and free that guy of all financial loss, end his relationship and let him start over without pain or loss, he will likely end up in exactly the same situation he is in now. Another poster mentioned wife 1.0 and wife 2.0, the only reason wife 2.0 works was because of wife 1.0, not in spite of her.

Once again, life charges tuition for it’s lessons just like a university does, both are worth the money.

[temeculaguy]

[quote=Enorah]I feel really sad reading this thread[/quote]
Which is why I originally planned to stay out of this one, why make divide between the sexes deeper than it already is? If someone finds their way into an unhappy or unhealthy relationship, they should find their way out of it, the process will benefit them.

Whenever I’ve been in a conversation with a friend and we are talking about another friend in a relationship where it seems unpleasant, my first response is usually “well, maybe her’s shoots sparks or something.” I’ve done exhaustive research and women are similarly equipped, there are variances, but none are worth subjecting oneself to undue hardship for time spent with their anatomy.

It’s gotta be more than just sexual power or fear of financial loss. People get into, stay in, or create unhealthy/unbalanced relationships for a reason, one rooted in their own psychology, not their sexuality.

If you could waive a magic wand and free that guy of all financial loss, end his relationship and let him start over without pain or loss, he will likely end up in exactly the same situation he is in now. Another poster mentioned wife 1.0 and wife 2.0, the only reason wife 2.0 works was because of wife 1.0, not in spite of her.

Once again, life charges tuition for it’s lessons just like a university does, both are worth the money.

[temeculaguy]

[quote=Enorah]I feel really sad reading this thread[/quote]
Which is why I originally planned to stay out of this one, why make divide between the sexes deeper than it already is? If someone finds their way into an unhappy or unhealthy relationship, they should find their way out of it, the process will benefit them.

Whenever I’ve been in a conversation with a friend and we are talking about another friend in a relationship where it seems unpleasant, my first response is usually “well, maybe her’s shoots sparks or something.” I’ve done exhaustive research and women are similarly equipped, there are variances, but none are worth subjecting oneself to undue hardship for time spent with their anatomy.

It’s gotta be more than just sexual power or fear of financial loss. People get into, stay in, or create unhealthy/unbalanced relationships for a reason, one rooted in their own psychology, not their sexuality.

If you could waive a magic wand and free that guy of all financial loss, end his relationship and let him start over without pain or loss, he will likely end up in exactly the same situation he is in now. Another poster mentioned wife 1.0 and wife 2.0, the only reason wife 2.0 works was because of wife 1.0, not in spite of her.

Once again, life charges tuition for it’s lessons just like a university does, both are worth the money.

[TheBreeze]

[quote=Ricechex][quote=briansd1]I agree. Never marry an American-born woman.

Choose someone from Europe, Asia, Latin American or whatever. But generally, don’t marry an American-born woman.

The imported products are generally better.[/quote]

Belief statements such as this usually suggest a bitter man, someone that does not really “like” women (I do not mean gay). Women are referred to as “products” and thus objectified. Blanket statements such as “never marry an American born women,” and rigid rules about male and female behaviors, suggest a rigid and limited perspective about others and ideas (this same world view is exemplified in your one perspective posts regarding Obama and politics). My guess is that women aren’t too fond of you, and there has been repeated rejection of you by those of the female gender.

Guys like Russell and SD Realtor probably always had it really easy with women, because they really LIKE women. They had their pick because of this, and they could choose wisely, thus not ending up with these women you speak of. If they have daughters, those girls will find good men like their fathers, not narcissistic, entitled and self-righteous women hating men. If they have sons, those boys will find caring, nurturing women that love them for WHO they are, rather than controlling manipulating beast women as characterized in this thread.

Ucodegen’s posts were spot on.[/quote]

So men who have been divorced are awkward, incompetent, woman-repellent douchebags?

[TheBreeze]

[quote=Ricechex][quote=briansd1]I agree. Never marry an American-born woman.

Choose someone from Europe, Asia, Latin American or whatever. But generally, don’t marry an American-born woman.

The imported products are generally better.[/quote]

Belief statements such as this usually suggest a bitter man, someone that does not really “like” women (I do not mean gay). Women are referred to as “products” and thus objectified. Blanket statements such as “never marry an American born women,” and rigid rules about male and female behaviors, suggest a rigid and limited perspective about others and ideas (this same world view is exemplified in your one perspective posts regarding Obama and politics). My guess is that women aren’t too fond of you, and there has been repeated rejection of you by those of the female gender.

Guys like Russell and SD Realtor probably always had it really easy with women, because they really LIKE women. They had their pick because of this, and they could choose wisely, thus not ending up with these women you speak of. If they have daughters, those girls will find good men like their fathers, not narcissistic, entitled and self-righteous women hating men. If they have sons, those boys will find caring, nurturing women that love them for WHO they are, rather than controlling manipulating beast women as characterized in this thread.

Ucodegen’s posts were spot on.[/quote]

So men who have been divorced are awkward, incompetent, woman-repellent douchebags?

[TheBreeze]

[quote=Ricechex][quote=briansd1]I agree. Never marry an American-born woman.

Choose someone from Europe, Asia, Latin American or whatever. But generally, don’t marry an American-born woman.

The imported products are generally better.[/quote]

Belief statements such as this usually suggest a bitter man, someone that does not really “like” women (I do not mean gay). Women are referred to as “products” and thus objectified. Blanket statements such as “never marry an American born women,” and rigid rules about male and female behaviors, suggest a rigid and limited perspective about others and ideas (this same world view is exemplified in your one perspective posts regarding Obama and politics). My guess is that women aren’t too fond of you, and there has been repeated rejection of you by those of the female gender.

Guys like Russell and SD Realtor probably always had it really easy with women, because they really LIKE women. They had their pick because of this, and they could choose wisely, thus not ending up with these women you speak of. If they have daughters, those girls will find good men like their fathers, not narcissistic, entitled and self-righteous women hating men. If they have sons, those boys will find caring, nurturing women that love them for WHO they are, rather than controlling manipulating beast women as characterized in this thread.

Ucodegen’s posts were spot on.[/quote]

So men who have been divorced are awkward, incompetent, woman-repellent douchebags?

[TheBreeze]

[quote=Ricechex][quote=briansd1]I agree. Never marry an American-born woman.

Choose someone from Europe, Asia, Latin American or whatever. But generally, don’t marry an American-born woman.

The imported products are generally better.[/quote]

Belief statements such as this usually suggest a bitter man, someone that does not really “like” women (I do not mean gay). Women are referred to as “products” and thus objectified. Blanket statements such as “never marry an American born women,” and rigid rules about male and female behaviors, suggest a rigid and limited perspective about others and ideas (this same world view is exemplified in your one perspective posts regarding Obama and politics). My guess is that women aren’t too fond of you, and there has been repeated rejection of you by those of the female gender.

Guys like Russell and SD Realtor probably always had it really easy with women, because they really LIKE women. They had their pick because of this, and they could choose wisely, thus not ending up with these women you speak of. If they have daughters, those girls will find good men like their fathers, not narcissistic, entitled and self-righteous women hating men. If they have sons, those boys will find caring, nurturing women that love them for WHO they are, rather than controlling manipulating beast women as characterized in this thread.

Ucodegen’s posts were spot on.[/quote]

So men who have been divorced are awkward, incompetent, woman-repellent douchebags?

[TheBreeze]

[quote=Ricechex][quote=briansd1]I agree. Never marry an American-born woman.

Choose someone from Europe, Asia, Latin American or whatever. But generally, don’t marry an American-born woman.

The imported products are generally better.[/quote]

Belief statements such as this usually suggest a bitter man, someone that does not really “like” women (I do not mean gay). Women are referred to as “products” and thus objectified. Blanket statements such as “never marry an American born women,” and rigid rules about male and female behaviors, suggest a rigid and limited perspective about others and ideas (this same world view is exemplified in your one perspective posts regarding Obama and politics). My guess is that women aren’t too fond of you, and there has been repeated rejection of you by those of the female gender.

Guys like Russell and SD Realtor probably always had it really easy with women, because they really LIKE women. They had their pick because of this, and they could choose wisely, thus not ending up with these women you speak of. If they have daughters, those girls will find good men like their fathers, not narcissistic, entitled and self-righteous women hating men. If they have sons, those boys will find caring, nurturing women that love them for WHO they are, rather than controlling manipulating beast women as characterized in this thread.

Ucodegen’s posts were spot on.[/quote]

So men who have been divorced are awkward, incompetent, woman-repellent douchebags?

[CA renter]

[quote=davelj]
I think equating not wanting to get married with not thinking women are “amazing” is illogical. In fact, I could – and will – argue the opposite. Not wanting to get married is an acknowledgement that women are amazing… so many of them that you don’t want to tie yourself down to just one for the rest of your life! I can’t find anything bitter or insecure at all in that outlook – which happens to be mine. There are so many “amazing” women out there that I can’t possibly imagine spending the rest of my life with just one.[/quote]

And how do the women in your life feel about your perspective? I don’t have a problem with any kind of relationship, as long as everyone is 100% informed and consents to the arrangement, but do you lie to the women in order to get what **you** want, and then dump them when you are finished, or are you completely honest and up-front about just wanting to use them for a little while?

I know some women will not object to being used, but many (most?) wouldn’t give you the time of day if you told them of your true intentions.

[CA renter]

[quote=davelj]
I think equating not wanting to get married with not thinking women are “amazing” is illogical. In fact, I could – and will – argue the opposite. Not wanting to get married is an acknowledgement that women are amazing… so many of them that you don’t want to tie yourself down to just one for the rest of your life! I can’t find anything bitter or insecure at all in that outlook – which happens to be mine. There are so many “amazing” women out there that I can’t possibly imagine spending the rest of my life with just one.[/quote]

And how do the women in your life feel about your perspective? I don’t have a problem with any kind of relationship, as long as everyone is 100% informed and consents to the arrangement, but do you lie to the women in order to get what **you** want, and then dump them when you are finished, or are you completely honest and up-front about just wanting to use them for a little while?

I know some women will not object to being used, but many (most?) wouldn’t give you the time of day if you told them of your true intentions.

[CA renter]

[quote=davelj]
I think equating not wanting to get married with not thinking women are “amazing” is illogical. In fact, I could – and will – argue the opposite. Not wanting to get married is an acknowledgement that women are amazing… so many of them that you don’t want to tie yourself down to just one for the rest of your life! I can’t find anything bitter or insecure at all in that outlook – which happens to be mine. There are so many “amazing” women out there that I can’t possibly imagine spending the rest of my life with just one.[/quote]

And how do the women in your life feel about your perspective? I don’t have a problem with any kind of relationship, as long as everyone is 100% informed and consents to the arrangement, but do you lie to the women in order to get what **you** want, and then dump them when you are finished, or are you completely honest and up-front about just wanting to use them for a little while?

I know some women will not object to being used, but many (most?) wouldn’t give you the time of day if you told them of your true intentions.

[CA renter]

[quote=davelj]
I think equating not wanting to get married with not thinking women are “amazing” is illogical. In fact, I could – and will – argue the opposite. Not wanting to get married is an acknowledgement that women are amazing… so many of them that you don’t want to tie yourself down to just one for the rest of your life! I can’t find anything bitter or insecure at all in that outlook – which happens to be mine. There are so many “amazing” women out there that I can’t possibly imagine spending the rest of my life with just one.[/quote]

And how do the women in your life feel about your perspective? I don’t have a problem with any kind of relationship, as long as everyone is 100% informed and consents to the arrangement, but do you lie to the women in order to get what **you** want, and then dump them when you are finished, or are you completely honest and up-front about just wanting to use them for a little while?

I know some women will not object to being used, but many (most?) wouldn’t give you the time of day if you told them of your true intentions.

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