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October 28, 2009 at 9:37 PM #475887October 28, 2009 at 9:56 PM #475051
davelj
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I think equating not wanting to get married with not thinking women are “amazing” is illogical. In fact, I could – and will – argue the opposite. Not wanting to get married is an acknowledgement that women are amazing… so many of them that you don’t want to tie yourself down to just one for the rest of your life! I can’t find anything bitter or insecure at all in that outlook – which happens to be mine. There are so many “amazing” women out there that I can’t possibly imagine spending the rest of my life with just one.[/quote]And how do the women in your life feel about your perspective? I don’t have a problem with any kind of relationship, as long as everyone is 100% informed and consents to the arrangement, but do you lie to the women in order to get what **you** want, and then dump them when you are finished, or are you completely honest and up-front about just wanting to use them for a little while?
I know some women will not object to being used, but many (most?) wouldn’t give you the time of day if you told them of your true intentions.[/quote]
“Use them for a little while.” Bwahahaha… that is rich. Reminds me of the classic Onion article:
“You Used Me for Sex, Friendship and Good Conversation”
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/33242I tell women up front that I have zero interest in marriage or kids. But I’ve had relationships last as long as six years. And I’m still friends with a lot of my exes – even some that are married. Why do those that stay, stay? I don’t know. But there must be some reason for it, right? I have found that every year there appear to be more and more women that aren’t looking for something permanent from a man. Which is good for both me and them.
October 28, 2009 at 9:56 PM #475228Participant[quote=CA renter][quote=davelj]
I think equating not wanting to get married with not thinking women are “amazing” is illogical. In fact, I could – and will – argue the opposite. Not wanting to get married is an acknowledgement that women are amazing… so many of them that you don’t want to tie yourself down to just one for the rest of your life! I can’t find anything bitter or insecure at all in that outlook – which happens to be mine. There are so many “amazing” women out there that I can’t possibly imagine spending the rest of my life with just one.[/quote]And how do the women in your life feel about your perspective? I don’t have a problem with any kind of relationship, as long as everyone is 100% informed and consents to the arrangement, but do you lie to the women in order to get what **you** want, and then dump them when you are finished, or are you completely honest and up-front about just wanting to use them for a little while?
I know some women will not object to being used, but many (most?) wouldn’t give you the time of day if you told them of your true intentions.[/quote]
“Use them for a little while.” Bwahahaha… that is rich. Reminds me of the classic Onion article:
“You Used Me for Sex, Friendship and Good Conversation”
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/33242I tell women up front that I have zero interest in marriage or kids. But I’ve had relationships last as long as six years. And I’m still friends with a lot of my exes – even some that are married. Why do those that stay, stay? I don’t know. But there must be some reason for it, right? I have found that every year there appear to be more and more women that aren’t looking for something permanent from a man. Which is good for both me and them.
October 28, 2009 at 9:56 PM #475592Participant[quote=CA renter][quote=davelj]
I think equating not wanting to get married with not thinking women are “amazing” is illogical. In fact, I could – and will – argue the opposite. Not wanting to get married is an acknowledgement that women are amazing… so many of them that you don’t want to tie yourself down to just one for the rest of your life! I can’t find anything bitter or insecure at all in that outlook – which happens to be mine. There are so many “amazing” women out there that I can’t possibly imagine spending the rest of my life with just one.[/quote]And how do the women in your life feel about your perspective? I don’t have a problem with any kind of relationship, as long as everyone is 100% informed and consents to the arrangement, but do you lie to the women in order to get what **you** want, and then dump them when you are finished, or are you completely honest and up-front about just wanting to use them for a little while?
I know some women will not object to being used, but many (most?) wouldn’t give you the time of day if you told them of your true intentions.[/quote]
“Use them for a little while.” Bwahahaha… that is rich. Reminds me of the classic Onion article:
“You Used Me for Sex, Friendship and Good Conversation”
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/33242I tell women up front that I have zero interest in marriage or kids. But I’ve had relationships last as long as six years. And I’m still friends with a lot of my exes – even some that are married. Why do those that stay, stay? I don’t know. But there must be some reason for it, right? I have found that every year there appear to be more and more women that aren’t looking for something permanent from a man. Which is good for both me and them.
October 28, 2009 at 9:56 PM #475668Participant[quote=CA renter][quote=davelj]
I think equating not wanting to get married with not thinking women are “amazing” is illogical. In fact, I could – and will – argue the opposite. Not wanting to get married is an acknowledgement that women are amazing… so many of them that you don’t want to tie yourself down to just one for the rest of your life! I can’t find anything bitter or insecure at all in that outlook – which happens to be mine. There are so many “amazing” women out there that I can’t possibly imagine spending the rest of my life with just one.[/quote]And how do the women in your life feel about your perspective? I don’t have a problem with any kind of relationship, as long as everyone is 100% informed and consents to the arrangement, but do you lie to the women in order to get what **you** want, and then dump them when you are finished, or are you completely honest and up-front about just wanting to use them for a little while?
I know some women will not object to being used, but many (most?) wouldn’t give you the time of day if you told them of your true intentions.[/quote]
“Use them for a little while.” Bwahahaha… that is rich. Reminds me of the classic Onion article:
“You Used Me for Sex, Friendship and Good Conversation”
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/33242I tell women up front that I have zero interest in marriage or kids. But I’ve had relationships last as long as six years. And I’m still friends with a lot of my exes – even some that are married. Why do those that stay, stay? I don’t know. But there must be some reason for it, right? I have found that every year there appear to be more and more women that aren’t looking for something permanent from a man. Which is good for both me and them.
October 28, 2009 at 9:56 PM #475892Participant[quote=CA renter][quote=davelj]
I think equating not wanting to get married with not thinking women are “amazing” is illogical. In fact, I could – and will – argue the opposite. Not wanting to get married is an acknowledgement that women are amazing… so many of them that you don’t want to tie yourself down to just one for the rest of your life! I can’t find anything bitter or insecure at all in that outlook – which happens to be mine. There are so many “amazing” women out there that I can’t possibly imagine spending the rest of my life with just one.[/quote]And how do the women in your life feel about your perspective? I don’t have a problem with any kind of relationship, as long as everyone is 100% informed and consents to the arrangement, but do you lie to the women in order to get what **you** want, and then dump them when you are finished, or are you completely honest and up-front about just wanting to use them for a little while?
I know some women will not object to being used, but many (most?) wouldn’t give you the time of day if you told them of your true intentions.[/quote]
“Use them for a little while.” Bwahahaha… that is rich. Reminds me of the classic Onion article:
“You Used Me for Sex, Friendship and Good Conversation”
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/33242I tell women up front that I have zero interest in marriage or kids. But I’ve had relationships last as long as six years. And I’m still friends with a lot of my exes – even some that are married. Why do those that stay, stay? I don’t know. But there must be some reason for it, right? I have found that every year there appear to be more and more women that aren’t looking for something permanent from a man. Which is good for both me and them.
October 28, 2009 at 10:03 PM #475066SD Realtor
ParticipantThanks ricechex….
Reading some of the posts does in fact bring me back to like… oh maybe jr high school and when I would get rejected I would act in such a manner.
Your analysis was spot on. The funny thing is that one reads some of the posts, and these posts try to point out that it is a “them” problem. The man will say women do this, or women do that, or they turn men into this or that. In reality it is not a “them” problem, it is a “you” problem.
Rice I wish I was one of those guys who got the pick of the women, but I was just another scrapper guy like the rest of them. However one thing I have noticed is that I know alot of “those guys”. These are the guys that have “it”. Whether it is physical looks, or money or whatever, women are just naturally attracted to these guys. For the most part, you NEVER here any of these guys spewing the bitterness that I have read here.
Again it is one thing to say, no thanks I would rather be single and enjoy that life. In fact those that live that life also rarely talk that harsh about women as well. They have the single life, they enjoy it, they enjoy women and that is okay.
So in summary I would classify those that speak in the bitter manner as those that feel women have something they cannot have or have a hard time getting. Thus they lash out and try to “put women in thier place”. They don’t need this or that, they won’t tolerate a woman changing them or doing this or that to them. Once again, it is not them, it is the “women” right?
October 28, 2009 at 10:03 PM #475243ParticipantThanks ricechex….
Reading some of the posts does in fact bring me back to like… oh maybe jr high school and when I would get rejected I would act in such a manner.
Your analysis was spot on. The funny thing is that one reads some of the posts, and these posts try to point out that it is a “them” problem. The man will say women do this, or women do that, or they turn men into this or that. In reality it is not a “them” problem, it is a “you” problem.
Rice I wish I was one of those guys who got the pick of the women, but I was just another scrapper guy like the rest of them. However one thing I have noticed is that I know alot of “those guys”. These are the guys that have “it”. Whether it is physical looks, or money or whatever, women are just naturally attracted to these guys. For the most part, you NEVER here any of these guys spewing the bitterness that I have read here.
Again it is one thing to say, no thanks I would rather be single and enjoy that life. In fact those that live that life also rarely talk that harsh about women as well. They have the single life, they enjoy it, they enjoy women and that is okay.
So in summary I would classify those that speak in the bitter manner as those that feel women have something they cannot have or have a hard time getting. Thus they lash out and try to “put women in thier place”. They don’t need this or that, they won’t tolerate a woman changing them or doing this or that to them. Once again, it is not them, it is the “women” right?
October 28, 2009 at 10:03 PM #475607ParticipantThanks ricechex….
Reading some of the posts does in fact bring me back to like… oh maybe jr high school and when I would get rejected I would act in such a manner.
Your analysis was spot on. The funny thing is that one reads some of the posts, and these posts try to point out that it is a “them” problem. The man will say women do this, or women do that, or they turn men into this or that. In reality it is not a “them” problem, it is a “you” problem.
Rice I wish I was one of those guys who got the pick of the women, but I was just another scrapper guy like the rest of them. However one thing I have noticed is that I know alot of “those guys”. These are the guys that have “it”. Whether it is physical looks, or money or whatever, women are just naturally attracted to these guys. For the most part, you NEVER here any of these guys spewing the bitterness that I have read here.
Again it is one thing to say, no thanks I would rather be single and enjoy that life. In fact those that live that life also rarely talk that harsh about women as well. They have the single life, they enjoy it, they enjoy women and that is okay.
So in summary I would classify those that speak in the bitter manner as those that feel women have something they cannot have or have a hard time getting. Thus they lash out and try to “put women in thier place”. They don’t need this or that, they won’t tolerate a woman changing them or doing this or that to them. Once again, it is not them, it is the “women” right?
October 28, 2009 at 10:03 PM #475683ParticipantThanks ricechex….
Reading some of the posts does in fact bring me back to like… oh maybe jr high school and when I would get rejected I would act in such a manner.
Your analysis was spot on. The funny thing is that one reads some of the posts, and these posts try to point out that it is a “them” problem. The man will say women do this, or women do that, or they turn men into this or that. In reality it is not a “them” problem, it is a “you” problem.
Rice I wish I was one of those guys who got the pick of the women, but I was just another scrapper guy like the rest of them. However one thing I have noticed is that I know alot of “those guys”. These are the guys that have “it”. Whether it is physical looks, or money or whatever, women are just naturally attracted to these guys. For the most part, you NEVER here any of these guys spewing the bitterness that I have read here.
Again it is one thing to say, no thanks I would rather be single and enjoy that life. In fact those that live that life also rarely talk that harsh about women as well. They have the single life, they enjoy it, they enjoy women and that is okay.
So in summary I would classify those that speak in the bitter manner as those that feel women have something they cannot have or have a hard time getting. Thus they lash out and try to “put women in thier place”. They don’t need this or that, they won’t tolerate a woman changing them or doing this or that to them. Once again, it is not them, it is the “women” right?
October 28, 2009 at 10:03 PM #475907ParticipantThanks ricechex….
Reading some of the posts does in fact bring me back to like… oh maybe jr high school and when I would get rejected I would act in such a manner.
Your analysis was spot on. The funny thing is that one reads some of the posts, and these posts try to point out that it is a “them” problem. The man will say women do this, or women do that, or they turn men into this or that. In reality it is not a “them” problem, it is a “you” problem.
Rice I wish I was one of those guys who got the pick of the women, but I was just another scrapper guy like the rest of them. However one thing I have noticed is that I know alot of “those guys”. These are the guys that have “it”. Whether it is physical looks, or money or whatever, women are just naturally attracted to these guys. For the most part, you NEVER here any of these guys spewing the bitterness that I have read here.
Again it is one thing to say, no thanks I would rather be single and enjoy that life. In fact those that live that life also rarely talk that harsh about women as well. They have the single life, they enjoy it, they enjoy women and that is okay.
So in summary I would classify those that speak in the bitter manner as those that feel women have something they cannot have or have a hard time getting. Thus they lash out and try to “put women in thier place”. They don’t need this or that, they won’t tolerate a woman changing them or doing this or that to them. Once again, it is not them, it is the “women” right?
October 28, 2009 at 10:06 PM #475071ParticipantDave not wanting to get married is perfectly okay with me. The fact is that your post was just that, a very simple straightforward statement. It was not disrepectful or hurtful to women in any way shape or form. Other posts from some of the posters was what I was referring to. I didnt detect any bitterness at all from your posts.
October 28, 2009 at 10:06 PM #475248ParticipantDave not wanting to get married is perfectly okay with me. The fact is that your post was just that, a very simple straightforward statement. It was not disrepectful or hurtful to women in any way shape or form. Other posts from some of the posters was what I was referring to. I didnt detect any bitterness at all from your posts.
October 28, 2009 at 10:06 PM #475612ParticipantDave not wanting to get married is perfectly okay with me. The fact is that your post was just that, a very simple straightforward statement. It was not disrepectful or hurtful to women in any way shape or form. Other posts from some of the posters was what I was referring to. I didnt detect any bitterness at all from your posts.
October 28, 2009 at 10:06 PM #475688ParticipantDave not wanting to get married is perfectly okay with me. The fact is that your post was just that, a very simple straightforward statement. It was not disrepectful or hurtful to women in any way shape or form. Other posts from some of the posters was what I was referring to. I didnt detect any bitterness at all from your posts.
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