OT/ ” I Have The Pu–y, I Make The Rules”

[davelj]

[quote=CA renter]

In a society without marriage, and without any payment for the work women do (essentially, creating and bringing up the next generation of people), why would any woman have a child for a man? And if a woman did choose to have a child, there would be no reason to name that child after the sperm donor or to establish a relationship between the donor and her child, as the man would only be a hindrance to her independence and ability to find new mates or move for a career, etc.

Not sure why a man would think that’s some kind of utopia.[/quote]

Don’t get married and don’t have kids. Sounds like utopia to me.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Ricechex][quote=briansd1]I agree. Never marry an American-born woman.

Choose someone from Europe, Asia, Latin American or whatever. But generally, don’t marry an American-born woman.

The imported products are generally better.[/quote]

Belief statements such as this usually suggest a bitter man, someone that does not really “like” women (I do not mean gay). Women are referred to as “products” and thus objectified. Blanket statements such as “never marry an American born women,” and rigid rules about male and female behaviors, suggest a rigid and limited perspective about others and ideas (this same world view is exemplified in your one perspective posts regarding Obama and politics). My guess is that women aren’t too fond of you, and there has been repeated rejection of you by those of the female gender.

Ucodegen’s posts were spot on.[/quote]

Ricechex: You rock.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Ricechex][quote=briansd1]I agree. Never marry an American-born woman.

Choose someone from Europe, Asia, Latin American or whatever. But generally, don’t marry an American-born woman.

The imported products are generally better.[/quote]

Belief statements such as this usually suggest a bitter man, someone that does not really “like” women (I do not mean gay). Women are referred to as “products” and thus objectified. Blanket statements such as “never marry an American born women,” and rigid rules about male and female behaviors, suggest a rigid and limited perspective about others and ideas (this same world view is exemplified in your one perspective posts regarding Obama and politics). My guess is that women aren’t too fond of you, and there has been repeated rejection of you by those of the female gender.

Ucodegen’s posts were spot on.[/quote]

Ricechex: You rock.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Ricechex][quote=briansd1]I agree. Never marry an American-born woman.

Choose someone from Europe, Asia, Latin American or whatever. But generally, don’t marry an American-born woman.

The imported products are generally better.[/quote]

Belief statements such as this usually suggest a bitter man, someone that does not really “like” women (I do not mean gay). Women are referred to as “products” and thus objectified. Blanket statements such as “never marry an American born women,” and rigid rules about male and female behaviors, suggest a rigid and limited perspective about others and ideas (this same world view is exemplified in your one perspective posts regarding Obama and politics). My guess is that women aren’t too fond of you, and there has been repeated rejection of you by those of the female gender.

Ucodegen’s posts were spot on.[/quote]

Ricechex: You rock.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Ricechex][quote=briansd1]I agree. Never marry an American-born woman.

Choose someone from Europe, Asia, Latin American or whatever. But generally, don’t marry an American-born woman.

The imported products are generally better.[/quote]

Belief statements such as this usually suggest a bitter man, someone that does not really “like” women (I do not mean gay). Women are referred to as “products” and thus objectified. Blanket statements such as “never marry an American born women,” and rigid rules about male and female behaviors, suggest a rigid and limited perspective about others and ideas (this same world view is exemplified in your one perspective posts regarding Obama and politics). My guess is that women aren’t too fond of you, and there has been repeated rejection of you by those of the female gender.

Ucodegen’s posts were spot on.[/quote]

Ricechex: You rock.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Ricechex][quote=briansd1]I agree. Never marry an American-born woman.

Choose someone from Europe, Asia, Latin American or whatever. But generally, don’t marry an American-born woman.

The imported products are generally better.[/quote]

Belief statements such as this usually suggest a bitter man, someone that does not really “like” women (I do not mean gay). Women are referred to as “products” and thus objectified. Blanket statements such as “never marry an American born women,” and rigid rules about male and female behaviors, suggest a rigid and limited perspective about others and ideas (this same world view is exemplified in your one perspective posts regarding Obama and politics). My guess is that women aren’t too fond of you, and there has been repeated rejection of you by those of the female gender.

Ucodegen’s posts were spot on.[/quote]

Ricechex: You rock.

[davelj]

[quote=SD Realtor]This is quite a thread. Honestly I am pretty shocked by it.

I can think of nothing more amazing on the planet then women.

Enorah, CAR, I think the post shows there are a ton of bitter insecure men out there.

Pretty easy to tell which ones are happy and which are not. It is one thing to say I enjoy being single but I am pretty surprised at some of the posters just going out of the way to show how strong manly men they are and how they will never be controlled by a woman.

I enjoy the brash posts of those who lay down the law and have lists of rules they adhere to regarding women. I am sure they will have happy marriages with great families.[/quote]

I think equating not wanting to get married with not thinking women are “amazing” is illogical. In fact, I could – and will – argue the opposite. Not wanting to get married is an acknowledgement that women are amazing… so many of them that you don’t want to tie yourself down to just one for the rest of your life! I can’t find anything bitter or insecure at all in that outlook – which happens to be mine. There are so many “amazing” women out there that I can’t possibly imagine spending the rest of my life with just one.

[davelj]

[quote=SD Realtor]This is quite a thread. Honestly I am pretty shocked by it.

I can think of nothing more amazing on the planet then women.

Enorah, CAR, I think the post shows there are a ton of bitter insecure men out there.

Pretty easy to tell which ones are happy and which are not. It is one thing to say I enjoy being single but I am pretty surprised at some of the posters just going out of the way to show how strong manly men they are and how they will never be controlled by a woman.

I enjoy the brash posts of those who lay down the law and have lists of rules they adhere to regarding women. I am sure they will have happy marriages with great families.[/quote]

I think equating not wanting to get married with not thinking women are “amazing” is illogical. In fact, I could – and will – argue the opposite. Not wanting to get married is an acknowledgement that women are amazing… so many of them that you don’t want to tie yourself down to just one for the rest of your life! I can’t find anything bitter or insecure at all in that outlook – which happens to be mine. There are so many “amazing” women out there that I can’t possibly imagine spending the rest of my life with just one.

[davelj]

[quote=SD Realtor]This is quite a thread. Honestly I am pretty shocked by it.

I can think of nothing more amazing on the planet then women.

Enorah, CAR, I think the post shows there are a ton of bitter insecure men out there.

Pretty easy to tell which ones are happy and which are not. It is one thing to say I enjoy being single but I am pretty surprised at some of the posters just going out of the way to show how strong manly men they are and how they will never be controlled by a woman.

I enjoy the brash posts of those who lay down the law and have lists of rules they adhere to regarding women. I am sure they will have happy marriages with great families.[/quote]

I think equating not wanting to get married with not thinking women are “amazing” is illogical. In fact, I could – and will – argue the opposite. Not wanting to get married is an acknowledgement that women are amazing… so many of them that you don’t want to tie yourself down to just one for the rest of your life! I can’t find anything bitter or insecure at all in that outlook – which happens to be mine. There are so many “amazing” women out there that I can’t possibly imagine spending the rest of my life with just one.

[davelj]

[quote=SD Realtor]This is quite a thread. Honestly I am pretty shocked by it.

I can think of nothing more amazing on the planet then women.

Enorah, CAR, I think the post shows there are a ton of bitter insecure men out there.

Pretty easy to tell which ones are happy and which are not. It is one thing to say I enjoy being single but I am pretty surprised at some of the posters just going out of the way to show how strong manly men they are and how they will never be controlled by a woman.

I enjoy the brash posts of those who lay down the law and have lists of rules they adhere to regarding women. I am sure they will have happy marriages with great families.[/quote]

I think equating not wanting to get married with not thinking women are “amazing” is illogical. In fact, I could – and will – argue the opposite. Not wanting to get married is an acknowledgement that women are amazing… so many of them that you don’t want to tie yourself down to just one for the rest of your life! I can’t find anything bitter or insecure at all in that outlook – which happens to be mine. There are so many “amazing” women out there that I can’t possibly imagine spending the rest of my life with just one.

[davelj]

[quote=SD Realtor]This is quite a thread. Honestly I am pretty shocked by it.

I can think of nothing more amazing on the planet then women.

Enorah, CAR, I think the post shows there are a ton of bitter insecure men out there.

Pretty easy to tell which ones are happy and which are not. It is one thing to say I enjoy being single but I am pretty surprised at some of the posters just going out of the way to show how strong manly men they are and how they will never be controlled by a woman.

I enjoy the brash posts of those who lay down the law and have lists of rules they adhere to regarding women. I am sure they will have happy marriages with great families.[/quote]

I think equating not wanting to get married with not thinking women are “amazing” is illogical. In fact, I could – and will – argue the opposite. Not wanting to get married is an acknowledgement that women are amazing… so many of them that you don’t want to tie yourself down to just one for the rest of your life! I can’t find anything bitter or insecure at all in that outlook – which happens to be mine. There are so many “amazing” women out there that I can’t possibly imagine spending the rest of my life with just one.

[CA renter]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
CAR: Aren’t there emerging statistics to support what you’re saying, in terms of the increasing number of single women choosing to have children not only outside of a marriage, but outside of a long-term committed relationship?

I can’t recall where I read the article, but there appears to be something of a groundswell regarding single women in their 20s and 30s that are opting out of the “nuclear family” option and choosing to intentionally go it alone.

Personally, I have my doubts about both marriage and monogamy and would opine that people should do whatever works best for them and not worry so much about societal conventions. I look at Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn, who, as I understand it, have been together for years and years and are not married.

Then I look at that nightmare involving Tom Cruise and his Cambodian Re-education Camp Parolee wife and their “happy marriage”.[/quote]

Yes, women have been doing this for the very reasons stated above. If anyone wants to see how well that’s turned out, just look at the African-American community with their greater than 75% out-of-wedlock births.

I agree that people should decide for themselves, but everyone has to pay the price for all the welfare kings/queens out there when people decide not to get married, yet conveniently forget to get “fixed” (MALE and female).

Thanks to all the happily married posters (both male and female) for sharing your more positive perspectives on marriage and relationships. 🙂

[CA renter]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
CAR: Aren’t there emerging statistics to support what you’re saying, in terms of the increasing number of single women choosing to have children not only outside of a marriage, but outside of a long-term committed relationship?

I can’t recall where I read the article, but there appears to be something of a groundswell regarding single women in their 20s and 30s that are opting out of the “nuclear family” option and choosing to intentionally go it alone.

Personally, I have my doubts about both marriage and monogamy and would opine that people should do whatever works best for them and not worry so much about societal conventions. I look at Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn, who, as I understand it, have been together for years and years and are not married.

Then I look at that nightmare involving Tom Cruise and his Cambodian Re-education Camp Parolee wife and their “happy marriage”.[/quote]

Yes, women have been doing this for the very reasons stated above. If anyone wants to see how well that’s turned out, just look at the African-American community with their greater than 75% out-of-wedlock births.

I agree that people should decide for themselves, but everyone has to pay the price for all the welfare kings/queens out there when people decide not to get married, yet conveniently forget to get “fixed” (MALE and female).

Thanks to all the happily married posters (both male and female) for sharing your more positive perspectives on marriage and relationships. 🙂

[CA renter]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
CAR: Aren’t there emerging statistics to support what you’re saying, in terms of the increasing number of single women choosing to have children not only outside of a marriage, but outside of a long-term committed relationship?

I can’t recall where I read the article, but there appears to be something of a groundswell regarding single women in their 20s and 30s that are opting out of the “nuclear family” option and choosing to intentionally go it alone.

Personally, I have my doubts about both marriage and monogamy and would opine that people should do whatever works best for them and not worry so much about societal conventions. I look at Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn, who, as I understand it, have been together for years and years and are not married.

Then I look at that nightmare involving Tom Cruise and his Cambodian Re-education Camp Parolee wife and their “happy marriage”.[/quote]

Yes, women have been doing this for the very reasons stated above. If anyone wants to see how well that’s turned out, just look at the African-American community with their greater than 75% out-of-wedlock births.

I agree that people should decide for themselves, but everyone has to pay the price for all the welfare kings/queens out there when people decide not to get married, yet conveniently forget to get “fixed” (MALE and female).

Thanks to all the happily married posters (both male and female) for sharing your more positive perspectives on marriage and relationships. 🙂

[CA renter]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
CAR: Aren’t there emerging statistics to support what you’re saying, in terms of the increasing number of single women choosing to have children not only outside of a marriage, but outside of a long-term committed relationship?

I can’t recall where I read the article, but there appears to be something of a groundswell regarding single women in their 20s and 30s that are opting out of the “nuclear family” option and choosing to intentionally go it alone.

Personally, I have my doubts about both marriage and monogamy and would opine that people should do whatever works best for them and not worry so much about societal conventions. I look at Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn, who, as I understand it, have been together for years and years and are not married.

Then I look at that nightmare involving Tom Cruise and his Cambodian Re-education Camp Parolee wife and their “happy marriage”.[/quote]

Yes, women have been doing this for the very reasons stated above. If anyone wants to see how well that’s turned out, just look at the African-American community with their greater than 75% out-of-wedlock births.

I agree that people should decide for themselves, but everyone has to pay the price for all the welfare kings/queens out there when people decide not to get married, yet conveniently forget to get “fixed” (MALE and female).

Thanks to all the happily married posters (both male and female) for sharing your more positive perspectives on marriage and relationships. 🙂

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