OT: New grad/profession/school pay….

[Arraya]

Oh, good grief. If I was a graduate, I would be more concerned with the fact that the country is a train wreck in motion rather than running off to become a cog in some corporate wheel in a dwindling pool of cogs. Hopefully, they take some time to think about things other than the corporate state’s stamp upon their brain that, yes, they are superior because they can buy more things, and they can call other Americans stupid and lazy because they did not make the same choices they did. And we wonder where the selfish entitlement comes from. We find pride in the “fuck you, I got mine” mantra. A bunch of rats trying to find a dry spot in a sinking ship that blame the other rats in steerage for the ship sinking, IMO

The US of the second half of the 20th century is gone, never to return. There is no going back, it’s only a forward escape for the future generations. Hopefully they open up their eyes to the fact that whatever previous generations did led us to this point and they don’t continue down the same road.

[Coronita]

Note to self. Bury my head in the sand and wake up a decade later. Sometimes, piggington is just too depressing…… LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA.

[Coronita]

Note to self. Bury my head in the sand and wake up a decade later. Sometimes, piggington is just too depressing…… LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA.

[Coronita]

Note to self. Bury my head in the sand and wake up a decade later. Sometimes, piggington is just too depressing…… LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA.

[Coronita]

Note to self. Bury my head in the sand and wake up a decade later. Sometimes, piggington is just too depressing…… LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA.

[Coronita]

Note to self. Bury my head in the sand and wake up a decade later. Sometimes, piggington is just too depressing…… LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA.

[davelj]

[quote=Arraya]Oh, good grief. If I was a graduate, I would be more concerned with the fact that the country is a train wreck in motion rather than running off to become a cog in some corporate wheel in a dwindling pool of cogs. Hopefully, they take some time to think about things other than the corporate state’s stamp upon their brain that, yes, they are superior because they can buy more things, and they can call other Americans stupid and lazy because they did not make the same choices they did. And we wonder where the selfish entitlement comes from. We find pride in the “fuck you, I got mine” mantra. A bunch of rats trying to find a dry spot in a sinking ship that blame the other rats in steerage for the ship sinking, IMO
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I’m not going to debate what graduates should or shouldn’t be doing (as I don’t really care, frankly – although personally I’d avoid professions that could be outsourced). But, since you brought these issues up, I am curious…

What do YOU do for a living, Arraya? In a general sense – you can be as specific as you choose. You advise graduates not to run “off to become a cog in some corporate wheel in a dwindling pool of cogs,” and to avoid becoming a rat “trying to find a dry spot in a sinking ship that blame the other rats in steerage for the ship sinking.” Which may in fact be very good advice for many, just to be clear. But, along with your environmental/anti-corporate/anti-material views – all of which are perfectly fine, mind you – it does beg the question: What do you do and how do you manage to stay so “pure” (that is, “pure” by your definition, just to be clear)?

By the tone of your posts, I envision you leading a “self-sustaining” lifestyle out in the woods somewhere, albeit with internet access. Which is perfectly cool if that’s what you’re into. You clearly have what many folks would describe as “high ideals,” but as my father often noted, the problem with high ideals is that they are seldom easy to live by.

[davelj]

[quote=Arraya]Oh, good grief. If I was a graduate, I would be more concerned with the fact that the country is a train wreck in motion rather than running off to become a cog in some corporate wheel in a dwindling pool of cogs. Hopefully, they take some time to think about things other than the corporate state’s stamp upon their brain that, yes, they are superior because they can buy more things, and they can call other Americans stupid and lazy because they did not make the same choices they did. And we wonder where the selfish entitlement comes from. We find pride in the “fuck you, I got mine” mantra. A bunch of rats trying to find a dry spot in a sinking ship that blame the other rats in steerage for the ship sinking, IMO
[/quote]

I’m not going to debate what graduates should or shouldn’t be doing (as I don’t really care, frankly – although personally I’d avoid professions that could be outsourced). But, since you brought these issues up, I am curious…

What do YOU do for a living, Arraya? In a general sense – you can be as specific as you choose. You advise graduates not to run “off to become a cog in some corporate wheel in a dwindling pool of cogs,” and to avoid becoming a rat “trying to find a dry spot in a sinking ship that blame the other rats in steerage for the ship sinking.” Which may in fact be very good advice for many, just to be clear. But, along with your environmental/anti-corporate/anti-material views – all of which are perfectly fine, mind you – it does beg the question: What do you do and how do you manage to stay so “pure” (that is, “pure” by your definition, just to be clear)?

By the tone of your posts, I envision you leading a “self-sustaining” lifestyle out in the woods somewhere, albeit with internet access. Which is perfectly cool if that’s what you’re into. You clearly have what many folks would describe as “high ideals,” but as my father often noted, the problem with high ideals is that they are seldom easy to live by.

[davelj]

[quote=Arraya]Oh, good grief. If I was a graduate, I would be more concerned with the fact that the country is a train wreck in motion rather than running off to become a cog in some corporate wheel in a dwindling pool of cogs. Hopefully, they take some time to think about things other than the corporate state’s stamp upon their brain that, yes, they are superior because they can buy more things, and they can call other Americans stupid and lazy because they did not make the same choices they did. And we wonder where the selfish entitlement comes from. We find pride in the “fuck you, I got mine” mantra. A bunch of rats trying to find a dry spot in a sinking ship that blame the other rats in steerage for the ship sinking, IMO
[/quote]

I’m not going to debate what graduates should or shouldn’t be doing (as I don’t really care, frankly – although personally I’d avoid professions that could be outsourced). But, since you brought these issues up, I am curious…

What do YOU do for a living, Arraya? In a general sense – you can be as specific as you choose. You advise graduates not to run “off to become a cog in some corporate wheel in a dwindling pool of cogs,” and to avoid becoming a rat “trying to find a dry spot in a sinking ship that blame the other rats in steerage for the ship sinking.” Which may in fact be very good advice for many, just to be clear. But, along with your environmental/anti-corporate/anti-material views – all of which are perfectly fine, mind you – it does beg the question: What do you do and how do you manage to stay so “pure” (that is, “pure” by your definition, just to be clear)?

By the tone of your posts, I envision you leading a “self-sustaining” lifestyle out in the woods somewhere, albeit with internet access. Which is perfectly cool if that’s what you’re into. You clearly have what many folks would describe as “high ideals,” but as my father often noted, the problem with high ideals is that they are seldom easy to live by.

[davelj]

[quote=Arraya]Oh, good grief. If I was a graduate, I would be more concerned with the fact that the country is a train wreck in motion rather than running off to become a cog in some corporate wheel in a dwindling pool of cogs. Hopefully, they take some time to think about things other than the corporate state’s stamp upon their brain that, yes, they are superior because they can buy more things, and they can call other Americans stupid and lazy because they did not make the same choices they did. And we wonder where the selfish entitlement comes from. We find pride in the “fuck you, I got mine” mantra. A bunch of rats trying to find a dry spot in a sinking ship that blame the other rats in steerage for the ship sinking, IMO
[/quote]

I’m not going to debate what graduates should or shouldn’t be doing (as I don’t really care, frankly – although personally I’d avoid professions that could be outsourced). But, since you brought these issues up, I am curious…

What do YOU do for a living, Arraya? In a general sense – you can be as specific as you choose. You advise graduates not to run “off to become a cog in some corporate wheel in a dwindling pool of cogs,” and to avoid becoming a rat “trying to find a dry spot in a sinking ship that blame the other rats in steerage for the ship sinking.” Which may in fact be very good advice for many, just to be clear. But, along with your environmental/anti-corporate/anti-material views – all of which are perfectly fine, mind you – it does beg the question: What do you do and how do you manage to stay so “pure” (that is, “pure” by your definition, just to be clear)?

By the tone of your posts, I envision you leading a “self-sustaining” lifestyle out in the woods somewhere, albeit with internet access. Which is perfectly cool if that’s what you’re into. You clearly have what many folks would describe as “high ideals,” but as my father often noted, the problem with high ideals is that they are seldom easy to live by.

[davelj]

[quote=Arraya]Oh, good grief. If I was a graduate, I would be more concerned with the fact that the country is a train wreck in motion rather than running off to become a cog in some corporate wheel in a dwindling pool of cogs. Hopefully, they take some time to think about things other than the corporate state’s stamp upon their brain that, yes, they are superior because they can buy more things, and they can call other Americans stupid and lazy because they did not make the same choices they did. And we wonder where the selfish entitlement comes from. We find pride in the “fuck you, I got mine” mantra. A bunch of rats trying to find a dry spot in a sinking ship that blame the other rats in steerage for the ship sinking, IMO
[/quote]

I’m not going to debate what graduates should or shouldn’t be doing (as I don’t really care, frankly – although personally I’d avoid professions that could be outsourced). But, since you brought these issues up, I am curious…

What do YOU do for a living, Arraya? In a general sense – you can be as specific as you choose. You advise graduates not to run “off to become a cog in some corporate wheel in a dwindling pool of cogs,” and to avoid becoming a rat “trying to find a dry spot in a sinking ship that blame the other rats in steerage for the ship sinking.” Which may in fact be very good advice for many, just to be clear. But, along with your environmental/anti-corporate/anti-material views – all of which are perfectly fine, mind you – it does beg the question: What do you do and how do you manage to stay so “pure” (that is, “pure” by your definition, just to be clear)?

By the tone of your posts, I envision you leading a “self-sustaining” lifestyle out in the woods somewhere, albeit with internet access. Which is perfectly cool if that’s what you’re into. You clearly have what many folks would describe as “high ideals,” but as my father often noted, the problem with high ideals is that they are seldom easy to live by.

[no_such_reality]

[quote=Arraya]Oh, good grief. If I was a graduate, I would be more concerned with the fact that the country is a train wreck in motion rather than running off to become a cog in some corporate wheel in a dwindling pool of cogs. [/quote]

The key to not being a cog is twofold.

The ability to create and the willingness to work for it themselves.

Cogdom requires a just putting in my time mentality(often, the minimal amount of effort), to collect the paycheck.

[no_such_reality]

[quote=Arraya]Oh, good grief. If I was a graduate, I would be more concerned with the fact that the country is a train wreck in motion rather than running off to become a cog in some corporate wheel in a dwindling pool of cogs. [/quote]

The key to not being a cog is twofold.

The ability to create and the willingness to work for it themselves.

Cogdom requires a just putting in my time mentality(often, the minimal amount of effort), to collect the paycheck.

[no_such_reality]

[quote=Arraya]Oh, good grief. If I was a graduate, I would be more concerned with the fact that the country is a train wreck in motion rather than running off to become a cog in some corporate wheel in a dwindling pool of cogs. [/quote]

The key to not being a cog is twofold.

The ability to create and the willingness to work for it themselves.

Cogdom requires a just putting in my time mentality(often, the minimal amount of effort), to collect the paycheck.

[no_such_reality]

[quote=Arraya]Oh, good grief. If I was a graduate, I would be more concerned with the fact that the country is a train wreck in motion rather than running off to become a cog in some corporate wheel in a dwindling pool of cogs. [/quote]

The key to not being a cog is twofold.

The ability to create and the willingness to work for it themselves.

Cogdom requires a just putting in my time mentality(often, the minimal amount of effort), to collect the paycheck.

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