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March 22, 2011 at 3:59 PM #680875March 22, 2011 at 4:20 PM #679722bearishgurlParticipant
[quote=briansd1]The over parenting and the micromanagement of kids’ lives is an obsession and addiction for parents these days.
My parents were busy with their lives and we kids didn’t have a lot of supervision. But we were provided fresh home-cooked meals and expected to behave. We could never dictate our menu and had to eat was was served. We had to fold our clothing and make our beds. It became automatic.
When it came to moving, us kids were never consulted or given an option. We didn’t really care. Said goodbye to our friends and left. There was no Facebook back then…[/quote]
Agree, brian. We had household responsibilities as well. Back in my day, parents moved for jobs or to be closer to family whenever it was feasable for them to do so, even in the middle of a semester or school year. A parent could just go to the school office and get up-to-the-minute records on their child to take to the next school. Kids were never consulted about a move – they just went along with the program. Parents were parents and kids were kids. Parents were not the kids’ “friends.” We only moved once when I was in school, when I was in Jr High. Everything was fine in the new school. I missed the better weather of Cali more than the kids I left behind. I was pen pals with a couple of my elem school chums up until about ’99. I still know where to find one of them as their elderly parents are still alive and still in the same house. I was in the ‘hood for other reasons and and decided to drop by to say hello to them a few months ago. Ironically, a couple of years after we moved away, one of my elem school chums moved just 30 miles away from me, over 1200 miles from our elementary school. As far as I know, they are still there.
I know I could find everybody again on social networking sites but I don’t belong to any of them. It looks like too much work to keep up with and a compromise of privacy. My kids, however, seem to find time to keep with their 367 or 492 online “friends,” lol :=]
Edit: I want to add that there wasn’t any “GATE” or “AP” classes or IB programs to choose from back then. Smart kids were in the same classes with the kids who cut class and/or didn’t pay attention and also with kids with ADHD and dyslexia. There wasn’t any “diagnosis” made on these kids at that time. They were just labeled “slow” or “hyperactive” but were placed in mainstream classrooms. They didn’t qualify for special education.
March 22, 2011 at 4:20 PM #679776bearishgurlParticipant[quote=briansd1]The over parenting and the micromanagement of kids’ lives is an obsession and addiction for parents these days.
My parents were busy with their lives and we kids didn’t have a lot of supervision. But we were provided fresh home-cooked meals and expected to behave. We could never dictate our menu and had to eat was was served. We had to fold our clothing and make our beds. It became automatic.
When it came to moving, us kids were never consulted or given an option. We didn’t really care. Said goodbye to our friends and left. There was no Facebook back then…[/quote]
Agree, brian. We had household responsibilities as well. Back in my day, parents moved for jobs or to be closer to family whenever it was feasable for them to do so, even in the middle of a semester or school year. A parent could just go to the school office and get up-to-the-minute records on their child to take to the next school. Kids were never consulted about a move – they just went along with the program. Parents were parents and kids were kids. Parents were not the kids’ “friends.” We only moved once when I was in school, when I was in Jr High. Everything was fine in the new school. I missed the better weather of Cali more than the kids I left behind. I was pen pals with a couple of my elem school chums up until about ’99. I still know where to find one of them as their elderly parents are still alive and still in the same house. I was in the ‘hood for other reasons and and decided to drop by to say hello to them a few months ago. Ironically, a couple of years after we moved away, one of my elem school chums moved just 30 miles away from me, over 1200 miles from our elementary school. As far as I know, they are still there.
I know I could find everybody again on social networking sites but I don’t belong to any of them. It looks like too much work to keep up with and a compromise of privacy. My kids, however, seem to find time to keep with their 367 or 492 online “friends,” lol :=]
Edit: I want to add that there wasn’t any “GATE” or “AP” classes or IB programs to choose from back then. Smart kids were in the same classes with the kids who cut class and/or didn’t pay attention and also with kids with ADHD and dyslexia. There wasn’t any “diagnosis” made on these kids at that time. They were just labeled “slow” or “hyperactive” but were placed in mainstream classrooms. They didn’t qualify for special education.
March 22, 2011 at 4:20 PM #680393bearishgurlParticipant[quote=briansd1]The over parenting and the micromanagement of kids’ lives is an obsession and addiction for parents these days.
My parents were busy with their lives and we kids didn’t have a lot of supervision. But we were provided fresh home-cooked meals and expected to behave. We could never dictate our menu and had to eat was was served. We had to fold our clothing and make our beds. It became automatic.
When it came to moving, us kids were never consulted or given an option. We didn’t really care. Said goodbye to our friends and left. There was no Facebook back then…[/quote]
Agree, brian. We had household responsibilities as well. Back in my day, parents moved for jobs or to be closer to family whenever it was feasable for them to do so, even in the middle of a semester or school year. A parent could just go to the school office and get up-to-the-minute records on their child to take to the next school. Kids were never consulted about a move – they just went along with the program. Parents were parents and kids were kids. Parents were not the kids’ “friends.” We only moved once when I was in school, when I was in Jr High. Everything was fine in the new school. I missed the better weather of Cali more than the kids I left behind. I was pen pals with a couple of my elem school chums up until about ’99. I still know where to find one of them as their elderly parents are still alive and still in the same house. I was in the ‘hood for other reasons and and decided to drop by to say hello to them a few months ago. Ironically, a couple of years after we moved away, one of my elem school chums moved just 30 miles away from me, over 1200 miles from our elementary school. As far as I know, they are still there.
I know I could find everybody again on social networking sites but I don’t belong to any of them. It looks like too much work to keep up with and a compromise of privacy. My kids, however, seem to find time to keep with their 367 or 492 online “friends,” lol :=]
Edit: I want to add that there wasn’t any “GATE” or “AP” classes or IB programs to choose from back then. Smart kids were in the same classes with the kids who cut class and/or didn’t pay attention and also with kids with ADHD and dyslexia. There wasn’t any “diagnosis” made on these kids at that time. They were just labeled “slow” or “hyperactive” but were placed in mainstream classrooms. They didn’t qualify for special education.
March 22, 2011 at 4:20 PM #680529bearishgurlParticipant[quote=briansd1]The over parenting and the micromanagement of kids’ lives is an obsession and addiction for parents these days.
My parents were busy with their lives and we kids didn’t have a lot of supervision. But we were provided fresh home-cooked meals and expected to behave. We could never dictate our menu and had to eat was was served. We had to fold our clothing and make our beds. It became automatic.
When it came to moving, us kids were never consulted or given an option. We didn’t really care. Said goodbye to our friends and left. There was no Facebook back then…[/quote]
Agree, brian. We had household responsibilities as well. Back in my day, parents moved for jobs or to be closer to family whenever it was feasable for them to do so, even in the middle of a semester or school year. A parent could just go to the school office and get up-to-the-minute records on their child to take to the next school. Kids were never consulted about a move – they just went along with the program. Parents were parents and kids were kids. Parents were not the kids’ “friends.” We only moved once when I was in school, when I was in Jr High. Everything was fine in the new school. I missed the better weather of Cali more than the kids I left behind. I was pen pals with a couple of my elem school chums up until about ’99. I still know where to find one of them as their elderly parents are still alive and still in the same house. I was in the ‘hood for other reasons and and decided to drop by to say hello to them a few months ago. Ironically, a couple of years after we moved away, one of my elem school chums moved just 30 miles away from me, over 1200 miles from our elementary school. As far as I know, they are still there.
I know I could find everybody again on social networking sites but I don’t belong to any of them. It looks like too much work to keep up with and a compromise of privacy. My kids, however, seem to find time to keep with their 367 or 492 online “friends,” lol :=]
Edit: I want to add that there wasn’t any “GATE” or “AP” classes or IB programs to choose from back then. Smart kids were in the same classes with the kids who cut class and/or didn’t pay attention and also with kids with ADHD and dyslexia. There wasn’t any “diagnosis” made on these kids at that time. They were just labeled “slow” or “hyperactive” but were placed in mainstream classrooms. They didn’t qualify for special education.
March 22, 2011 at 4:20 PM #680880bearishgurlParticipant[quote=briansd1]The over parenting and the micromanagement of kids’ lives is an obsession and addiction for parents these days.
My parents were busy with their lives and we kids didn’t have a lot of supervision. But we were provided fresh home-cooked meals and expected to behave. We could never dictate our menu and had to eat was was served. We had to fold our clothing and make our beds. It became automatic.
When it came to moving, us kids were never consulted or given an option. We didn’t really care. Said goodbye to our friends and left. There was no Facebook back then…[/quote]
Agree, brian. We had household responsibilities as well. Back in my day, parents moved for jobs or to be closer to family whenever it was feasable for them to do so, even in the middle of a semester or school year. A parent could just go to the school office and get up-to-the-minute records on their child to take to the next school. Kids were never consulted about a move – they just went along with the program. Parents were parents and kids were kids. Parents were not the kids’ “friends.” We only moved once when I was in school, when I was in Jr High. Everything was fine in the new school. I missed the better weather of Cali more than the kids I left behind. I was pen pals with a couple of my elem school chums up until about ’99. I still know where to find one of them as their elderly parents are still alive and still in the same house. I was in the ‘hood for other reasons and and decided to drop by to say hello to them a few months ago. Ironically, a couple of years after we moved away, one of my elem school chums moved just 30 miles away from me, over 1200 miles from our elementary school. As far as I know, they are still there.
I know I could find everybody again on social networking sites but I don’t belong to any of them. It looks like too much work to keep up with and a compromise of privacy. My kids, however, seem to find time to keep with their 367 or 492 online “friends,” lol :=]
Edit: I want to add that there wasn’t any “GATE” or “AP” classes or IB programs to choose from back then. Smart kids were in the same classes with the kids who cut class and/or didn’t pay attention and also with kids with ADHD and dyslexia. There wasn’t any “diagnosis” made on these kids at that time. They were just labeled “slow” or “hyperactive” but were placed in mainstream classrooms. They didn’t qualify for special education.
March 22, 2011 at 4:42 PM #679737ScarlettParticipantI think life was so much simpler then! Wish it still were. Now there are too many choices.
That being said, there are two separate issues – one is trying to do the best you can for your child in terms of school, neighborhood, etc (which I believe most parents my generation who care about education are doing, for better or for worse), the other is consulting the kids in this.
I think the parents are still moving the kids for job reasons, or divorce, or when they buy a house for example. And they don’t ask the kids permission – though they may discuss it with them so they know what to expect (depending on the age).
In my case, I am taking my daughter along to see houses for sale/rent because of logistics. She may express her likes or dislikes, and I am curious to know those, but it’s not influencing our decision of buying or renting a place. As a preschooler she doesn’t have the maturity/experience to really know what matters in the long run. Right now a house may be fascinating for her because it had snails,lizards and pretty flowers or something. Oh, if I’d have bought all the places she liked :), I’d have long since bought a house, LOL…
In my class we also had all sorts of kids, richer and poorer, ADD and “normal”, nerds and slackers. I am not sure which is better? more homogeneous or more diverse? I certainly think that ethnicity/cultural variety is great. about the rest, not so sure.
March 22, 2011 at 4:42 PM #679791ScarlettParticipantI think life was so much simpler then! Wish it still were. Now there are too many choices.
That being said, there are two separate issues – one is trying to do the best you can for your child in terms of school, neighborhood, etc (which I believe most parents my generation who care about education are doing, for better or for worse), the other is consulting the kids in this.
I think the parents are still moving the kids for job reasons, or divorce, or when they buy a house for example. And they don’t ask the kids permission – though they may discuss it with them so they know what to expect (depending on the age).
In my case, I am taking my daughter along to see houses for sale/rent because of logistics. She may express her likes or dislikes, and I am curious to know those, but it’s not influencing our decision of buying or renting a place. As a preschooler she doesn’t have the maturity/experience to really know what matters in the long run. Right now a house may be fascinating for her because it had snails,lizards and pretty flowers or something. Oh, if I’d have bought all the places she liked :), I’d have long since bought a house, LOL…
In my class we also had all sorts of kids, richer and poorer, ADD and “normal”, nerds and slackers. I am not sure which is better? more homogeneous or more diverse? I certainly think that ethnicity/cultural variety is great. about the rest, not so sure.
March 22, 2011 at 4:42 PM #680408ScarlettParticipantI think life was so much simpler then! Wish it still were. Now there are too many choices.
That being said, there are two separate issues – one is trying to do the best you can for your child in terms of school, neighborhood, etc (which I believe most parents my generation who care about education are doing, for better or for worse), the other is consulting the kids in this.
I think the parents are still moving the kids for job reasons, or divorce, or when they buy a house for example. And they don’t ask the kids permission – though they may discuss it with them so they know what to expect (depending on the age).
In my case, I am taking my daughter along to see houses for sale/rent because of logistics. She may express her likes or dislikes, and I am curious to know those, but it’s not influencing our decision of buying or renting a place. As a preschooler she doesn’t have the maturity/experience to really know what matters in the long run. Right now a house may be fascinating for her because it had snails,lizards and pretty flowers or something. Oh, if I’d have bought all the places she liked :), I’d have long since bought a house, LOL…
In my class we also had all sorts of kids, richer and poorer, ADD and “normal”, nerds and slackers. I am not sure which is better? more homogeneous or more diverse? I certainly think that ethnicity/cultural variety is great. about the rest, not so sure.
March 22, 2011 at 4:42 PM #680544ScarlettParticipantI think life was so much simpler then! Wish it still were. Now there are too many choices.
That being said, there are two separate issues – one is trying to do the best you can for your child in terms of school, neighborhood, etc (which I believe most parents my generation who care about education are doing, for better or for worse), the other is consulting the kids in this.
I think the parents are still moving the kids for job reasons, or divorce, or when they buy a house for example. And they don’t ask the kids permission – though they may discuss it with them so they know what to expect (depending on the age).
In my case, I am taking my daughter along to see houses for sale/rent because of logistics. She may express her likes or dislikes, and I am curious to know those, but it’s not influencing our decision of buying or renting a place. As a preschooler she doesn’t have the maturity/experience to really know what matters in the long run. Right now a house may be fascinating for her because it had snails,lizards and pretty flowers or something. Oh, if I’d have bought all the places she liked :), I’d have long since bought a house, LOL…
In my class we also had all sorts of kids, richer and poorer, ADD and “normal”, nerds and slackers. I am not sure which is better? more homogeneous or more diverse? I certainly think that ethnicity/cultural variety is great. about the rest, not so sure.
March 22, 2011 at 4:42 PM #680895ScarlettParticipantI think life was so much simpler then! Wish it still were. Now there are too many choices.
That being said, there are two separate issues – one is trying to do the best you can for your child in terms of school, neighborhood, etc (which I believe most parents my generation who care about education are doing, for better or for worse), the other is consulting the kids in this.
I think the parents are still moving the kids for job reasons, or divorce, or when they buy a house for example. And they don’t ask the kids permission – though they may discuss it with them so they know what to expect (depending on the age).
In my case, I am taking my daughter along to see houses for sale/rent because of logistics. She may express her likes or dislikes, and I am curious to know those, but it’s not influencing our decision of buying or renting a place. As a preschooler she doesn’t have the maturity/experience to really know what matters in the long run. Right now a house may be fascinating for her because it had snails,lizards and pretty flowers or something. Oh, if I’d have bought all the places she liked :), I’d have long since bought a house, LOL…
In my class we also had all sorts of kids, richer and poorer, ADD and “normal”, nerds and slackers. I am not sure which is better? more homogeneous or more diverse? I certainly think that ethnicity/cultural variety is great. about the rest, not so sure.
March 22, 2011 at 7:28 PM #679747RenParticipantYup, it isn’t about getting the kids’ permission. I’ll probably be more strict with mine than most parents. It’s about being empathetic with them. Their emotional well-being is more important to me than an extra 10 minutes added to my commute.
A lot of variables go into a decision like that, but I would personally lean heavily toward stability for them, and we’re willing to work a little harder for it if needed.
March 22, 2011 at 7:28 PM #679801RenParticipantYup, it isn’t about getting the kids’ permission. I’ll probably be more strict with mine than most parents. It’s about being empathetic with them. Their emotional well-being is more important to me than an extra 10 minutes added to my commute.
A lot of variables go into a decision like that, but I would personally lean heavily toward stability for them, and we’re willing to work a little harder for it if needed.
March 22, 2011 at 7:28 PM #680418RenParticipantYup, it isn’t about getting the kids’ permission. I’ll probably be more strict with mine than most parents. It’s about being empathetic with them. Their emotional well-being is more important to me than an extra 10 minutes added to my commute.
A lot of variables go into a decision like that, but I would personally lean heavily toward stability for them, and we’re willing to work a little harder for it if needed.
March 22, 2011 at 7:28 PM #680554RenParticipantYup, it isn’t about getting the kids’ permission. I’ll probably be more strict with mine than most parents. It’s about being empathetic with them. Their emotional well-being is more important to me than an extra 10 minutes added to my commute.
A lot of variables go into a decision like that, but I would personally lean heavily toward stability for them, and we’re willing to work a little harder for it if needed.
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