OT – Burqa ban moves forward in France

[meadandale]

[quote=briansd1]I don’t see how wearing the burqa affects anyone but the wearer.[/quote]

Unless they insist on wearing it when their driver’s license picture is taken…with everything except the eyes covered. It’s already happened here.

My bank makes me take off my hat and sunglasses when I come through the front door so they can recognize me if I try and rob the place. Why should someone wearing a burqa be treated differently?

[all]

[quote=meadandale]Right…

I love how the ‘respect our culture’ thing only usually works one way.

If I go to saudi arabia I can’t drink, among many other things, and women are ‘encouraged’ to dress appropriately and wear head coverings. You are in their country so you respect their traditions even though you may think they are silly and backwards.
However, when they come to western countries they immediately expect us to change our customs and laws to conform to their cultural norms. Huh?!
[/quote]
I believe the drink thing is the law. They can’t come here and stone adulterous women, either.

[quote=meadandale]
France is learning a tough lesson. Their decades of welcoming all these people with open arms is crushing their country. We’d be wise to learn a few lessons from their experience.[/quote]

France is paying for the imperial past. They welcomed their allies from North Africa the same way the U.S. allowed allied Vietnamese to immigrate. It turned out not every Arab that came over is Zizou, but it shows how long-term cost of imperialistic policy can be crushing.

Anyway, I support the idea of pulling people forward, but I am not totally convinced it will work. After seeing the descent of dominantly Muslim former Soviet republics back into their happy middle-age I’m starting to doubt that the Enlightenment can be enforced upon groups en masse. Voltaire and Rousseau need to come from within.

[all]

[quote=meadandale]Right…

I love how the ‘respect our culture’ thing only usually works one way.

If I go to saudi arabia I can’t drink, among many other things, and women are ‘encouraged’ to dress appropriately and wear head coverings. You are in their country so you respect their traditions even though you may think they are silly and backwards.
However, when they come to western countries they immediately expect us to change our customs and laws to conform to their cultural norms. Huh?!
[/quote]
I believe the drink thing is the law. They can’t come here and stone adulterous women, either.

[quote=meadandale]
France is learning a tough lesson. Their decades of welcoming all these people with open arms is crushing their country. We’d be wise to learn a few lessons from their experience.[/quote]

France is paying for the imperial past. They welcomed their allies from North Africa the same way the U.S. allowed allied Vietnamese to immigrate. It turned out not every Arab that came over is Zizou, but it shows how long-term cost of imperialistic policy can be crushing.

Anyway, I support the idea of pulling people forward, but I am not totally convinced it will work. After seeing the descent of dominantly Muslim former Soviet republics back into their happy middle-age I’m starting to doubt that the Enlightenment can be enforced upon groups en masse. Voltaire and Rousseau need to come from within.

[all]

[quote=meadandale]Right…

I love how the ‘respect our culture’ thing only usually works one way.

If I go to saudi arabia I can’t drink, among many other things, and women are ‘encouraged’ to dress appropriately and wear head coverings. You are in their country so you respect their traditions even though you may think they are silly and backwards.
However, when they come to western countries they immediately expect us to change our customs and laws to conform to their cultural norms. Huh?!
[/quote]
I believe the drink thing is the law. They can’t come here and stone adulterous women, either.

[quote=meadandale]
France is learning a tough lesson. Their decades of welcoming all these people with open arms is crushing their country. We’d be wise to learn a few lessons from their experience.[/quote]

France is paying for the imperial past. They welcomed their allies from North Africa the same way the U.S. allowed allied Vietnamese to immigrate. It turned out not every Arab that came over is Zizou, but it shows how long-term cost of imperialistic policy can be crushing.

Anyway, I support the idea of pulling people forward, but I am not totally convinced it will work. After seeing the descent of dominantly Muslim former Soviet republics back into their happy middle-age I’m starting to doubt that the Enlightenment can be enforced upon groups en masse. Voltaire and Rousseau need to come from within.

[all]

[quote=meadandale]Right…

I love how the ‘respect our culture’ thing only usually works one way.

If I go to saudi arabia I can’t drink, among many other things, and women are ‘encouraged’ to dress appropriately and wear head coverings. You are in their country so you respect their traditions even though you may think they are silly and backwards.
However, when they come to western countries they immediately expect us to change our customs and laws to conform to their cultural norms. Huh?!
[/quote]
I believe the drink thing is the law. They can’t come here and stone adulterous women, either.

[quote=meadandale]
France is learning a tough lesson. Their decades of welcoming all these people with open arms is crushing their country. We’d be wise to learn a few lessons from their experience.[/quote]

France is paying for the imperial past. They welcomed their allies from North Africa the same way the U.S. allowed allied Vietnamese to immigrate. It turned out not every Arab that came over is Zizou, but it shows how long-term cost of imperialistic policy can be crushing.

Anyway, I support the idea of pulling people forward, but I am not totally convinced it will work. After seeing the descent of dominantly Muslim former Soviet republics back into their happy middle-age I’m starting to doubt that the Enlightenment can be enforced upon groups en masse. Voltaire and Rousseau need to come from within.

[all]

[quote=meadandale]Right…

I love how the ‘respect our culture’ thing only usually works one way.

If I go to saudi arabia I can’t drink, among many other things, and women are ‘encouraged’ to dress appropriately and wear head coverings. You are in their country so you respect their traditions even though you may think they are silly and backwards.
However, when they come to western countries they immediately expect us to change our customs and laws to conform to their cultural norms. Huh?!
[/quote]
I believe the drink thing is the law. They can’t come here and stone adulterous women, either.

[quote=meadandale]
France is learning a tough lesson. Their decades of welcoming all these people with open arms is crushing their country. We’d be wise to learn a few lessons from their experience.[/quote]

France is paying for the imperial past. They welcomed their allies from North Africa the same way the U.S. allowed allied Vietnamese to immigrate. It turned out not every Arab that came over is Zizou, but it shows how long-term cost of imperialistic policy can be crushing.

Anyway, I support the idea of pulling people forward, but I am not totally convinced it will work. After seeing the descent of dominantly Muslim former Soviet republics back into their happy middle-age I’m starting to doubt that the Enlightenment can be enforced upon groups en masse. Voltaire and Rousseau need to come from within.

[dbapig]

I want to talk about religion also.

Muslims can openly try to convert people to their religion in any so called Christian (western) nations.

See what happens if Christians try to do the same for Christianity in Muslim nations…

[dbapig]

I want to talk about religion also.

Muslims can openly try to convert people to their religion in any so called Christian (western) nations.

See what happens if Christians try to do the same for Christianity in Muslim nations…

[dbapig]

I want to talk about religion also.

Muslims can openly try to convert people to their religion in any so called Christian (western) nations.

See what happens if Christians try to do the same for Christianity in Muslim nations…

[dbapig]

I want to talk about religion also.

Muslims can openly try to convert people to their religion in any so called Christian (western) nations.

See what happens if Christians try to do the same for Christianity in Muslim nations…

[dbapig]

I want to talk about religion also.

Muslims can openly try to convert people to their religion in any so called Christian (western) nations.

See what happens if Christians try to do the same for Christianity in Muslim nations…

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I guess that will put an end to “Wet Burqa Night” at Club Kandahar in Nice.

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I guess that will put an end to “Wet Burqa Night” at Club Kandahar in Nice.

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I guess that will put an end to “Wet Burqa Night” at Club Kandahar in Nice.

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I guess that will put an end to “Wet Burqa Night” at Club Kandahar in Nice.

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