OT – Burqa ban moves forward in France

[CardiffBaseball]

[quote=weberlin]
*sigh* You’re painting with a really broad brush. As previously noted, there are 1.5 billion Muslims in the world. Most are in South/Southeast Asia. While they may be more ‘conservative’ than the Deep South, they are definitely less prone to engage in violence. They do love their guns in the Deep South.

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While we are all remodeling with such large brushes, you might want to re-consider that last sentence or two. Deep South folk, more violent than most muslims? Must be all those skirmishes going on between the Hatfields and McCoys. The various proxy wars being fought in deep Georgia, and inner South Carolina are testing the fabric of our nation as I type.

A tip for you….shooting deer isn’t violence, it’s getting rid of a freaking large 4-legged rat/pest.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=CardiffBaseball]
While we are all remodeling with such large brushes, you might want to re-consider that last sentence or two. Deep South folk, more violent than most muslims? Must be all those skirmishes going on between the Hatfields and McCoys. The various proxy wars being fought in deep Georgia, and inner South Carolina are testing the fabric of our nation as I type.

A tip for you….shooting deer isn’t violence, it’s getting rid of a freaking large 4-legged rat/pest.[/quote]

Cardiff: You haven’t heard about the “Redneck VBIED (vehicle borne IED)”? Yup, its a jacked up Chevy 4×4 with a moonshine still in the bed and a fuse. With all the bombings and shootings in the South, I’d a thunk you’d a been more up on this.

Simply reading the news disproves the notion that there is more violence in the South than perpetrated by jihadis in various parts of the world.

Also, the idea that al-Qaeda, the Taliban and the House of Saud(?) are the major players is incorrect, as is saying that the Middle East and North Africa (and here I’m presuming Libya, Morocco, Algiers, which is North Africa) are the most significant hotspots.

This misses groups like Abu Sayyaf and Jemaah Islamiyah, along with the emergence of al-Shabab (not to be confused with the Riyadh soccer team of the same name), and the fact that attacks are more likely to now occur in Mumbai, Jakarta or Kampala, than in the Middle East.

The conversation also misses the shameful complicity of Western governments and media outlets in enabling radical Islam to essentially browbeat various countries into submission when it comes to a nearly complete unwillingness on the part of certain Islamic groups to assimilate into their host country. Moreover, as with the case of Sharia law in the UK, they now demand that their customs and mores either occupy an equal standing, or greater.

The silence from Western women’s groups like NOW on the treatment of women and girls within Islam is deafening. This is a religion, even in moderate form, that is misogynistic, chauvnistic and has resisted modernity, especially when it comes to women’s rights, for decades.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=CardiffBaseball]
While we are all remodeling with such large brushes, you might want to re-consider that last sentence or two. Deep South folk, more violent than most muslims? Must be all those skirmishes going on between the Hatfields and McCoys. The various proxy wars being fought in deep Georgia, and inner South Carolina are testing the fabric of our nation as I type.

A tip for you….shooting deer isn’t violence, it’s getting rid of a freaking large 4-legged rat/pest.[/quote]

Cardiff: You haven’t heard about the “Redneck VBIED (vehicle borne IED)”? Yup, its a jacked up Chevy 4×4 with a moonshine still in the bed and a fuse. With all the bombings and shootings in the South, I’d a thunk you’d a been more up on this.

Simply reading the news disproves the notion that there is more violence in the South than perpetrated by jihadis in various parts of the world.

Also, the idea that al-Qaeda, the Taliban and the House of Saud(?) are the major players is incorrect, as is saying that the Middle East and North Africa (and here I’m presuming Libya, Morocco, Algiers, which is North Africa) are the most significant hotspots.

This misses groups like Abu Sayyaf and Jemaah Islamiyah, along with the emergence of al-Shabab (not to be confused with the Riyadh soccer team of the same name), and the fact that attacks are more likely to now occur in Mumbai, Jakarta or Kampala, than in the Middle East.

The conversation also misses the shameful complicity of Western governments and media outlets in enabling radical Islam to essentially browbeat various countries into submission when it comes to a nearly complete unwillingness on the part of certain Islamic groups to assimilate into their host country. Moreover, as with the case of Sharia law in the UK, they now demand that their customs and mores either occupy an equal standing, or greater.

The silence from Western women’s groups like NOW on the treatment of women and girls within Islam is deafening. This is a religion, even in moderate form, that is misogynistic, chauvnistic and has resisted modernity, especially when it comes to women’s rights, for decades.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=CardiffBaseball]
While we are all remodeling with such large brushes, you might want to re-consider that last sentence or two. Deep South folk, more violent than most muslims? Must be all those skirmishes going on between the Hatfields and McCoys. The various proxy wars being fought in deep Georgia, and inner South Carolina are testing the fabric of our nation as I type.

A tip for you….shooting deer isn’t violence, it’s getting rid of a freaking large 4-legged rat/pest.[/quote]

Cardiff: You haven’t heard about the “Redneck VBIED (vehicle borne IED)”? Yup, its a jacked up Chevy 4×4 with a moonshine still in the bed and a fuse. With all the bombings and shootings in the South, I’d a thunk you’d a been more up on this.

Simply reading the news disproves the notion that there is more violence in the South than perpetrated by jihadis in various parts of the world.

Also, the idea that al-Qaeda, the Taliban and the House of Saud(?) are the major players is incorrect, as is saying that the Middle East and North Africa (and here I’m presuming Libya, Morocco, Algiers, which is North Africa) are the most significant hotspots.

This misses groups like Abu Sayyaf and Jemaah Islamiyah, along with the emergence of al-Shabab (not to be confused with the Riyadh soccer team of the same name), and the fact that attacks are more likely to now occur in Mumbai, Jakarta or Kampala, than in the Middle East.

The conversation also misses the shameful complicity of Western governments and media outlets in enabling radical Islam to essentially browbeat various countries into submission when it comes to a nearly complete unwillingness on the part of certain Islamic groups to assimilate into their host country. Moreover, as with the case of Sharia law in the UK, they now demand that their customs and mores either occupy an equal standing, or greater.

The silence from Western women’s groups like NOW on the treatment of women and girls within Islam is deafening. This is a religion, even in moderate form, that is misogynistic, chauvnistic and has resisted modernity, especially when it comes to women’s rights, for decades.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=CardiffBaseball]
While we are all remodeling with such large brushes, you might want to re-consider that last sentence or two. Deep South folk, more violent than most muslims? Must be all those skirmishes going on between the Hatfields and McCoys. The various proxy wars being fought in deep Georgia, and inner South Carolina are testing the fabric of our nation as I type.

A tip for you….shooting deer isn’t violence, it’s getting rid of a freaking large 4-legged rat/pest.[/quote]

Cardiff: You haven’t heard about the “Redneck VBIED (vehicle borne IED)”? Yup, its a jacked up Chevy 4×4 with a moonshine still in the bed and a fuse. With all the bombings and shootings in the South, I’d a thunk you’d a been more up on this.

Simply reading the news disproves the notion that there is more violence in the South than perpetrated by jihadis in various parts of the world.

Also, the idea that al-Qaeda, the Taliban and the House of Saud(?) are the major players is incorrect, as is saying that the Middle East and North Africa (and here I’m presuming Libya, Morocco, Algiers, which is North Africa) are the most significant hotspots.

This misses groups like Abu Sayyaf and Jemaah Islamiyah, along with the emergence of al-Shabab (not to be confused with the Riyadh soccer team of the same name), and the fact that attacks are more likely to now occur in Mumbai, Jakarta or Kampala, than in the Middle East.

The conversation also misses the shameful complicity of Western governments and media outlets in enabling radical Islam to essentially browbeat various countries into submission when it comes to a nearly complete unwillingness on the part of certain Islamic groups to assimilate into their host country. Moreover, as with the case of Sharia law in the UK, they now demand that their customs and mores either occupy an equal standing, or greater.

The silence from Western women’s groups like NOW on the treatment of women and girls within Islam is deafening. This is a religion, even in moderate form, that is misogynistic, chauvnistic and has resisted modernity, especially when it comes to women’s rights, for decades.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=CardiffBaseball]
While we are all remodeling with such large brushes, you might want to re-consider that last sentence or two. Deep South folk, more violent than most muslims? Must be all those skirmishes going on between the Hatfields and McCoys. The various proxy wars being fought in deep Georgia, and inner South Carolina are testing the fabric of our nation as I type.

A tip for you….shooting deer isn’t violence, it’s getting rid of a freaking large 4-legged rat/pest.[/quote]

Cardiff: You haven’t heard about the “Redneck VBIED (vehicle borne IED)”? Yup, its a jacked up Chevy 4×4 with a moonshine still in the bed and a fuse. With all the bombings and shootings in the South, I’d a thunk you’d a been more up on this.

Simply reading the news disproves the notion that there is more violence in the South than perpetrated by jihadis in various parts of the world.

Also, the idea that al-Qaeda, the Taliban and the House of Saud(?) are the major players is incorrect, as is saying that the Middle East and North Africa (and here I’m presuming Libya, Morocco, Algiers, which is North Africa) are the most significant hotspots.

This misses groups like Abu Sayyaf and Jemaah Islamiyah, along with the emergence of al-Shabab (not to be confused with the Riyadh soccer team of the same name), and the fact that attacks are more likely to now occur in Mumbai, Jakarta or Kampala, than in the Middle East.

The conversation also misses the shameful complicity of Western governments and media outlets in enabling radical Islam to essentially browbeat various countries into submission when it comes to a nearly complete unwillingness on the part of certain Islamic groups to assimilate into their host country. Moreover, as with the case of Sharia law in the UK, they now demand that their customs and mores either occupy an equal standing, or greater.

The silence from Western women’s groups like NOW on the treatment of women and girls within Islam is deafening. This is a religion, even in moderate form, that is misogynistic, chauvnistic and has resisted modernity, especially when it comes to women’s rights, for decades.

[briansd1]

France is a small country that aims to reach globally.

The French have great ideals, but it’s a country that requires assimilation in order to “succeed”. Their economy is small and doesn’t allow thriving ethnic enclaves like we have here in USA.

In America, immigrants can earn a good living by living among themselves. We also have much more space in between people; and in the suburbs, people don’t walk on the streets. So the burqa doesn’t “bother” as much.

In Paris, the Muslim immigrants stand out much more and that causes “concern” and a backlash among the general French population.

To me, banning the burqa in France is similar to the SB1070 backlash in Arizona.

[briansd1]

France is a small country that aims to reach globally.

The French have great ideals, but it’s a country that requires assimilation in order to “succeed”. Their economy is small and doesn’t allow thriving ethnic enclaves like we have here in USA.

In America, immigrants can earn a good living by living among themselves. We also have much more space in between people; and in the suburbs, people don’t walk on the streets. So the burqa doesn’t “bother” as much.

In Paris, the Muslim immigrants stand out much more and that causes “concern” and a backlash among the general French population.

To me, banning the burqa in France is similar to the SB1070 backlash in Arizona.

[briansd1]

France is a small country that aims to reach globally.

The French have great ideals, but it’s a country that requires assimilation in order to “succeed”. Their economy is small and doesn’t allow thriving ethnic enclaves like we have here in USA.

In America, immigrants can earn a good living by living among themselves. We also have much more space in between people; and in the suburbs, people don’t walk on the streets. So the burqa doesn’t “bother” as much.

In Paris, the Muslim immigrants stand out much more and that causes “concern” and a backlash among the general French population.

To me, banning the burqa in France is similar to the SB1070 backlash in Arizona.

[briansd1]

France is a small country that aims to reach globally.

The French have great ideals, but it’s a country that requires assimilation in order to “succeed”. Their economy is small and doesn’t allow thriving ethnic enclaves like we have here in USA.

In America, immigrants can earn a good living by living among themselves. We also have much more space in between people; and in the suburbs, people don’t walk on the streets. So the burqa doesn’t “bother” as much.

In Paris, the Muslim immigrants stand out much more and that causes “concern” and a backlash among the general French population.

To me, banning the burqa in France is similar to the SB1070 backlash in Arizona.

[briansd1]

France is a small country that aims to reach globally.

The French have great ideals, but it’s a country that requires assimilation in order to “succeed”. Their economy is small and doesn’t allow thriving ethnic enclaves like we have here in USA.

In America, immigrants can earn a good living by living among themselves. We also have much more space in between people; and in the suburbs, people don’t walk on the streets. So the burqa doesn’t “bother” as much.

In Paris, the Muslim immigrants stand out much more and that causes “concern” and a backlash among the general French population.

To me, banning the burqa in France is similar to the SB1070 backlash in Arizona.

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