OT – Burqa ban moves forward in France

[weberlin]

[quote=briansd1]I don’t see how wearing the burqa affects anyone but the wearer.

If people want to wear it, it doesn’t affect me. Let them be.

I think that the Kaffiyeh for men like in Lawrence of Arabia is not a bad idea, especially if you have to be out in the sun for extended periods of time. It’s a great sunscreen that keeps you cool too.[/quote]

Excellent point.

If this were simply a matter of freedom of choice, I would be more supportive.

However, not all Muslim women choose to where burqa’s. This issue highlights the fact that religion and culture are intricately linked. Women are oppressed in Muslim culture, and the requirement to wear a burqa is not as practiced in ‘secularized’ Muslim countries like Iran, and Libya.

There are passages in the bible that are very restrictive of women:

“I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.”

“1Cor.14:34-35 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church”

Western civilization has not only abandoned these practices, it has abandoned (well almost abandoned) the notion that women are second class citizens.

The Quran/Koran does not explicitly state that women must cover themselves completely. It only says that they must dress moderately.

Personally, I’m uncomfortable with people running around in public dressed like broke-ass ninjas who can only afford to shop at the discount big and tall ninja store. I’m ok with the head scarves, but the Burqas with eye slits, or see through cloth covering the face disturb me.

[briansd1]

Sometimes, I’m out in the sun on long horse rides.

I’m sun sensitive and I wear sun hats. But I’m afraid that someone will see me and think that I’m Muslim and shoot me. When you ride in the back country, you never know what characters with guns you encounter.

Imagine if I were to wear a Kaffiyeh like in the Middle East. It’s very effective sun headdress for the desert (which South California pretty much is).

For example if you’re going to visit the Pyramids of Egypt (or even Hoover Dam or the Grand Canyon) you’re better off covering yourself up rather than walking around in the desert in shorts and tanktops like the silly tourists do.

Personally, I feel that that Kaffiyeh I an option that I don’t have thanks to the controversy over religion.

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[briansd1]

Sometimes, I’m out in the sun on long horse rides.

I’m sun sensitive and I wear sun hats. But I’m afraid that someone will see me and think that I’m Muslim and shoot me. When you ride in the back country, you never know what characters with guns you encounter.

Imagine if I were to wear a Kaffiyeh like in the Middle East. It’s very effective sun headdress for the desert (which South California pretty much is).

For example if you’re going to visit the Pyramids of Egypt (or even Hoover Dam or the Grand Canyon) you’re better off covering yourself up rather than walking around in the desert in shorts and tanktops like the silly tourists do.

Personally, I feel that that Kaffiyeh I an option that I don’t have thanks to the controversy over religion.

http://www.rei.com/product/749205
http://www.rei.com/product/708136
http://www.rei.com/product/795921

[briansd1]

Sometimes, I’m out in the sun on long horse rides.

I’m sun sensitive and I wear sun hats. But I’m afraid that someone will see me and think that I’m Muslim and shoot me. When you ride in the back country, you never know what characters with guns you encounter.

Imagine if I were to wear a Kaffiyeh like in the Middle East. It’s very effective sun headdress for the desert (which South California pretty much is).

For example if you’re going to visit the Pyramids of Egypt (or even Hoover Dam or the Grand Canyon) you’re better off covering yourself up rather than walking around in the desert in shorts and tanktops like the silly tourists do.

Personally, I feel that that Kaffiyeh I an option that I don’t have thanks to the controversy over religion.

http://www.rei.com/product/749205
http://www.rei.com/product/708136
http://www.rei.com/product/795921

[briansd1]

Sometimes, I’m out in the sun on long horse rides.

I’m sun sensitive and I wear sun hats. But I’m afraid that someone will see me and think that I’m Muslim and shoot me. When you ride in the back country, you never know what characters with guns you encounter.

Imagine if I were to wear a Kaffiyeh like in the Middle East. It’s very effective sun headdress for the desert (which South California pretty much is).

For example if you’re going to visit the Pyramids of Egypt (or even Hoover Dam or the Grand Canyon) you’re better off covering yourself up rather than walking around in the desert in shorts and tanktops like the silly tourists do.

Personally, I feel that that Kaffiyeh I an option that I don’t have thanks to the controversy over religion.

http://www.rei.com/product/749205
http://www.rei.com/product/708136
http://www.rei.com/product/795921

[briansd1]

Sometimes, I’m out in the sun on long horse rides.

I’m sun sensitive and I wear sun hats. But I’m afraid that someone will see me and think that I’m Muslim and shoot me. When you ride in the back country, you never know what characters with guns you encounter.

Imagine if I were to wear a Kaffiyeh like in the Middle East. It’s very effective sun headdress for the desert (which South California pretty much is).

For example if you’re going to visit the Pyramids of Egypt (or even Hoover Dam or the Grand Canyon) you’re better off covering yourself up rather than walking around in the desert in shorts and tanktops like the silly tourists do.

Personally, I feel that that Kaffiyeh I an option that I don’t have thanks to the controversy over religion.

http://www.rei.com/product/749205
http://www.rei.com/product/708136
http://www.rei.com/product/795921

[Aecetia]

I doubt the red necks of East county will shoot you unless you are a cattle rustler. They might laugh at you though.

[Aecetia]

I doubt the red necks of East county will shoot you unless you are a cattle rustler. They might laugh at you though.

[Aecetia]

I doubt the red necks of East county will shoot you unless you are a cattle rustler. They might laugh at you though.

[Aecetia]

I doubt the red necks of East county will shoot you unless you are a cattle rustler. They might laugh at you though.

[Aecetia]

I doubt the red necks of East county will shoot you unless you are a cattle rustler. They might laugh at you though.

[weberlin]

[quote=Aecetia]I doubt the red necks of East county will shoot you unless you are a cattle rustler. They might laugh at you though.[/quote]

I think real American south rednecks would refer to East San Diego County rednecks as ‘city folk’.

[weberlin]

[quote=Aecetia]I doubt the red necks of East county will shoot you unless you are a cattle rustler. They might laugh at you though.[/quote]

I think real American south rednecks would refer to East San Diego County rednecks as ‘city folk’.

[weberlin]

[quote=Aecetia]I doubt the red necks of East county will shoot you unless you are a cattle rustler. They might laugh at you though.[/quote]

I think real American south rednecks would refer to East San Diego County rednecks as ‘city folk’.

[weberlin]

[quote=Aecetia]I doubt the red necks of East county will shoot you unless you are a cattle rustler. They might laugh at you though.[/quote]

I think real American south rednecks would refer to East San Diego County rednecks as ‘city folk’.

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