Just to affirm what some have said about San Marcos high schools

[Eugene]

[quote=nla]
Eastlake schools fits that scenario that AN described above (not necessarily disadvantaged/blacks but heavy Hispanic population). Take Eastlake and Olympian for examples:

Eastlake
Filipino: 850
White: 833
Hispanic: 741
School: 787

Olympian
Filipino: 856
White: 839
Hispanic: 754
School: 792
[/quote]

And those are fairly well-off, middle class and occasionally upper middle Hispanics.

Look five miles to the southwest, you have San Ysidro High (hispanic: 656) and Montgomery Senior High (hispanic: 627). I bet, more than a few of these walk across the border from TJ to school every day.

[nla]

[quote=Eugene]
Well, there are hispanics and there are hispanics. Eastlake High has average Hispanic API of 741 and Bonita Vista High is at 779, but arguably that’s not because (or not just because) they do a better job educating hispanics.

From looking at the numbers, it seems that San Marcos hispanics have around 30 API points on San Dieguito hispanics already at the elementary level.[/quote]

I also noticed that the “achievement gap” is getting wider as they approach college age.
Consider these feeder schools to Eastlake High.

Salt Creek
Filipino: 918
White: 907
Hispanic: 857
School: 882

Thurgood Marshall
Filipino: 905
White: 906
Hispanic: 861
School: 889

Olympic View
Filipino: 942
White: 926
Hispanic: 854
School: 886

So in elementary the difference bet. Filipino/White score to that of Hispanics is about 60 points.

Eastlake Middle
Filipino: 892
White: 874
Hispanic: 808
School: 842

Middle school, now the difference is about 75.

Eastlake High
Filipino: 850
White: 833
Hispanic: 741
School: 787

In High School, a whopping 100 points.

Thoughts?

[nla]

[quote=Eugene]
Well, there are hispanics and there are hispanics. Eastlake High has average Hispanic API of 741 and Bonita Vista High is at 779, but arguably that’s not because (or not just because) they do a better job educating hispanics.

From looking at the numbers, it seems that San Marcos hispanics have around 30 API points on San Dieguito hispanics already at the elementary level.[/quote]

I also noticed that the “achievement gap” is getting wider as they approach college age.
Consider these feeder schools to Eastlake High.

Salt Creek
Filipino: 918
White: 907
Hispanic: 857
School: 882

Thurgood Marshall
Filipino: 905
White: 906
Hispanic: 861
School: 889

Olympic View
Filipino: 942
White: 926
Hispanic: 854
School: 886

So in elementary the difference bet. Filipino/White score to that of Hispanics is about 60 points.

Eastlake Middle
Filipino: 892
White: 874
Hispanic: 808
School: 842

Middle school, now the difference is about 75.

Eastlake High
Filipino: 850
White: 833
Hispanic: 741
School: 787

In High School, a whopping 100 points.

Thoughts?

[nla]

[quote=Eugene]
Well, there are hispanics and there are hispanics. Eastlake High has average Hispanic API of 741 and Bonita Vista High is at 779, but arguably that’s not because (or not just because) they do a better job educating hispanics.

From looking at the numbers, it seems that San Marcos hispanics have around 30 API points on San Dieguito hispanics already at the elementary level.[/quote]

I also noticed that the “achievement gap” is getting wider as they approach college age.
Consider these feeder schools to Eastlake High.

Salt Creek
Filipino: 918
White: 907
Hispanic: 857
School: 882

Thurgood Marshall
Filipino: 905
White: 906
Hispanic: 861
School: 889

Olympic View
Filipino: 942
White: 926
Hispanic: 854
School: 886

So in elementary the difference bet. Filipino/White score to that of Hispanics is about 60 points.

Eastlake Middle
Filipino: 892
White: 874
Hispanic: 808
School: 842

Middle school, now the difference is about 75.

Eastlake High
Filipino: 850
White: 833
Hispanic: 741
School: 787

In High School, a whopping 100 points.

Thoughts?

[nla]

[quote=Eugene]
Well, there are hispanics and there are hispanics. Eastlake High has average Hispanic API of 741 and Bonita Vista High is at 779, but arguably that’s not because (or not just because) they do a better job educating hispanics.

From looking at the numbers, it seems that San Marcos hispanics have around 30 API points on San Dieguito hispanics already at the elementary level.[/quote]

I also noticed that the “achievement gap” is getting wider as they approach college age.
Consider these feeder schools to Eastlake High.

Salt Creek
Filipino: 918
White: 907
Hispanic: 857
School: 882

Thurgood Marshall
Filipino: 905
White: 906
Hispanic: 861
School: 889

Olympic View
Filipino: 942
White: 926
Hispanic: 854
School: 886

So in elementary the difference bet. Filipino/White score to that of Hispanics is about 60 points.

Eastlake Middle
Filipino: 892
White: 874
Hispanic: 808
School: 842

Middle school, now the difference is about 75.

Eastlake High
Filipino: 850
White: 833
Hispanic: 741
School: 787

In High School, a whopping 100 points.

Thoughts?

[nla]

[quote=Eugene]
Well, there are hispanics and there are hispanics. Eastlake High has average Hispanic API of 741 and Bonita Vista High is at 779, but arguably that’s not because (or not just because) they do a better job educating hispanics.

From looking at the numbers, it seems that San Marcos hispanics have around 30 API points on San Dieguito hispanics already at the elementary level.[/quote]

I also noticed that the “achievement gap” is getting wider as they approach college age.
Consider these feeder schools to Eastlake High.

Salt Creek
Filipino: 918
White: 907
Hispanic: 857
School: 882

Thurgood Marshall
Filipino: 905
White: 906
Hispanic: 861
School: 889

Olympic View
Filipino: 942
White: 926
Hispanic: 854
School: 886

So in elementary the difference bet. Filipino/White score to that of Hispanics is about 60 points.

Eastlake Middle
Filipino: 892
White: 874
Hispanic: 808
School: 842

Middle school, now the difference is about 75.

Eastlake High
Filipino: 850
White: 833
Hispanic: 741
School: 787

In High School, a whopping 100 points.

Thoughts?

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Eugene]. . . Look five miles to the southwest, you have San Ysidro High (hispanic: 656) and Montgomery Senior High (hispanic: 627). I bet, more than a few of these walk across the border from TJ to school every day.[/quote]

Yes, Eugene, it’s more than a few. They walk, catch the trolley AND drive across by the hundreds (and probably thousands). The Districts know all about this but dismiss it with a “wink and a nod.” More kids in school mean more $$ for that school from the State. The MR payors are livid about this but NOTHING will ever be done to tighten the residency requirements.

Just stand outside any South County MS/HS when cars line up to p/u students after school and count the Baja plates.

In the Elem. schools, the parents are more “stealth.” They park their Baja-plated vehicles in the neighborhood BEHIND the school and walk their child across the school grounds to class in the morning and wait outside the classroom door for them to get off in the afternoon to walk them back to the car.

Yes, there are residency procedures before school starts. The items a parent has to produce include a “care affidavit” (for a “relative’s” kid – who’s to know??), a “lease” (C’mon) and a “utility bill” (does not have to be in same name as the student). How hard is that??

I once knew a lady on AFDC who bragged she made $40 mo. ea. from the parents of 17 different kids from 12 different families who lived in MX to have all their school correspondence routed to her rented home. It was a 2 bdrm. 1 ba. house w/no garage in Chula. Since the kids all went to different schools in three districts (it’s NOT unified in South Bay), there was no cross-referencing of her address. Still isn’t.

This lady was forced to work off her AFDC by doing filing for us 3 days a week.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Eugene]. . . Look five miles to the southwest, you have San Ysidro High (hispanic: 656) and Montgomery Senior High (hispanic: 627). I bet, more than a few of these walk across the border from TJ to school every day.[/quote]

Yes, Eugene, it’s more than a few. They walk, catch the trolley AND drive across by the hundreds (and probably thousands). The Districts know all about this but dismiss it with a “wink and a nod.” More kids in school mean more $$ for that school from the State. The MR payors are livid about this but NOTHING will ever be done to tighten the residency requirements.

Just stand outside any South County MS/HS when cars line up to p/u students after school and count the Baja plates.

In the Elem. schools, the parents are more “stealth.” They park their Baja-plated vehicles in the neighborhood BEHIND the school and walk their child across the school grounds to class in the morning and wait outside the classroom door for them to get off in the afternoon to walk them back to the car.

Yes, there are residency procedures before school starts. The items a parent has to produce include a “care affidavit” (for a “relative’s” kid – who’s to know??), a “lease” (C’mon) and a “utility bill” (does not have to be in same name as the student). How hard is that??

I once knew a lady on AFDC who bragged she made $40 mo. ea. from the parents of 17 different kids from 12 different families who lived in MX to have all their school correspondence routed to her rented home. It was a 2 bdrm. 1 ba. house w/no garage in Chula. Since the kids all went to different schools in three districts (it’s NOT unified in South Bay), there was no cross-referencing of her address. Still isn’t.

This lady was forced to work off her AFDC by doing filing for us 3 days a week.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Eugene]. . . Look five miles to the southwest, you have San Ysidro High (hispanic: 656) and Montgomery Senior High (hispanic: 627). I bet, more than a few of these walk across the border from TJ to school every day.[/quote]

Yes, Eugene, it’s more than a few. They walk, catch the trolley AND drive across by the hundreds (and probably thousands). The Districts know all about this but dismiss it with a “wink and a nod.” More kids in school mean more $$ for that school from the State. The MR payors are livid about this but NOTHING will ever be done to tighten the residency requirements.

Just stand outside any South County MS/HS when cars line up to p/u students after school and count the Baja plates.

In the Elem. schools, the parents are more “stealth.” They park their Baja-plated vehicles in the neighborhood BEHIND the school and walk their child across the school grounds to class in the morning and wait outside the classroom door for them to get off in the afternoon to walk them back to the car.

Yes, there are residency procedures before school starts. The items a parent has to produce include a “care affidavit” (for a “relative’s” kid – who’s to know??), a “lease” (C’mon) and a “utility bill” (does not have to be in same name as the student). How hard is that??

I once knew a lady on AFDC who bragged she made $40 mo. ea. from the parents of 17 different kids from 12 different families who lived in MX to have all their school correspondence routed to her rented home. It was a 2 bdrm. 1 ba. house w/no garage in Chula. Since the kids all went to different schools in three districts (it’s NOT unified in South Bay), there was no cross-referencing of her address. Still isn’t.

This lady was forced to work off her AFDC by doing filing for us 3 days a week.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Eugene]. . . Look five miles to the southwest, you have San Ysidro High (hispanic: 656) and Montgomery Senior High (hispanic: 627). I bet, more than a few of these walk across the border from TJ to school every day.[/quote]

Yes, Eugene, it’s more than a few. They walk, catch the trolley AND drive across by the hundreds (and probably thousands). The Districts know all about this but dismiss it with a “wink and a nod.” More kids in school mean more $$ for that school from the State. The MR payors are livid about this but NOTHING will ever be done to tighten the residency requirements.

Just stand outside any South County MS/HS when cars line up to p/u students after school and count the Baja plates.

In the Elem. schools, the parents are more “stealth.” They park their Baja-plated vehicles in the neighborhood BEHIND the school and walk their child across the school grounds to class in the morning and wait outside the classroom door for them to get off in the afternoon to walk them back to the car.

Yes, there are residency procedures before school starts. The items a parent has to produce include a “care affidavit” (for a “relative’s” kid – who’s to know??), a “lease” (C’mon) and a “utility bill” (does not have to be in same name as the student). How hard is that??

I once knew a lady on AFDC who bragged she made $40 mo. ea. from the parents of 17 different kids from 12 different families who lived in MX to have all their school correspondence routed to her rented home. It was a 2 bdrm. 1 ba. house w/no garage in Chula. Since the kids all went to different schools in three districts (it’s NOT unified in South Bay), there was no cross-referencing of her address. Still isn’t.

This lady was forced to work off her AFDC by doing filing for us 3 days a week.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Eugene]. . . Look five miles to the southwest, you have San Ysidro High (hispanic: 656) and Montgomery Senior High (hispanic: 627). I bet, more than a few of these walk across the border from TJ to school every day.[/quote]

Yes, Eugene, it’s more than a few. They walk, catch the trolley AND drive across by the hundreds (and probably thousands). The Districts know all about this but dismiss it with a “wink and a nod.” More kids in school mean more $$ for that school from the State. The MR payors are livid about this but NOTHING will ever be done to tighten the residency requirements.

Just stand outside any South County MS/HS when cars line up to p/u students after school and count the Baja plates.

In the Elem. schools, the parents are more “stealth.” They park their Baja-plated vehicles in the neighborhood BEHIND the school and walk their child across the school grounds to class in the morning and wait outside the classroom door for them to get off in the afternoon to walk them back to the car.

Yes, there are residency procedures before school starts. The items a parent has to produce include a “care affidavit” (for a “relative’s” kid – who’s to know??), a “lease” (C’mon) and a “utility bill” (does not have to be in same name as the student). How hard is that??

I once knew a lady on AFDC who bragged she made $40 mo. ea. from the parents of 17 different kids from 12 different families who lived in MX to have all their school correspondence routed to her rented home. It was a 2 bdrm. 1 ba. house w/no garage in Chula. Since the kids all went to different schools in three districts (it’s NOT unified in South Bay), there was no cross-referencing of her address. Still isn’t.

This lady was forced to work off her AFDC by doing filing for us 3 days a week.

[Eugene]

Interesting. Must be specific to Sweetwater Union High. From what I heard, there are districts in California (particularly the “elite” ones; not sure about San Dieguito or Poway) that do things very differently. Some districts actually do random residency checks, they send inspectors in the evenings to verify that students live where they say they live … anyone found to be faking residence is promptly expelled.

[Eugene]

Interesting. Must be specific to Sweetwater Union High. From what I heard, there are districts in California (particularly the “elite” ones; not sure about San Dieguito or Poway) that do things very differently. Some districts actually do random residency checks, they send inspectors in the evenings to verify that students live where they say they live … anyone found to be faking residence is promptly expelled.

[Eugene]

Interesting. Must be specific to Sweetwater Union High. From what I heard, there are districts in California (particularly the “elite” ones; not sure about San Dieguito or Poway) that do things very differently. Some districts actually do random residency checks, they send inspectors in the evenings to verify that students live where they say they live … anyone found to be faking residence is promptly expelled.

[Eugene]

Interesting. Must be specific to Sweetwater Union High. From what I heard, there are districts in California (particularly the “elite” ones; not sure about San Dieguito or Poway) that do things very differently. Some districts actually do random residency checks, they send inspectors in the evenings to verify that students live where they say they live … anyone found to be faking residence is promptly expelled.

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