Just to affirm what some have said about San Marcos high schools

[Hobie]

[quote=AN]If a voucher system is enacted and you can go to any schools you want, I would think the premium for school in certain area would go away.[/quote]

While I am a believer in a voucher system, I don’t think we will see it. Charters are the closest that it will come.

Reason. With vouchers all the smart kids will attend a particular school with the better teachers and will have tons of enrichment activities and programs. The have nots will not. I’ll let Brian chime in and explain this in detail.

[an]

[quote=Hobie]
While I am a believer in a voucher system, I don’t think we will see it. Charters are the closest that it will come.

Reason. With vouchers all the smart kids will attend a particular school with the better teachers and will have tons of enrichment activities and programs. The have nots will not. I’ll let Brian chime in and explain this in detail.[/quote]
I agree that we probably will never see voucher system implemented in CA, unless Democrat lose control of CA. The teacher union will never allow it.

With regards to your reason, that’s exactly what we have in your higher education system and that system is one of the best in the world.

[an]

[quote=Hobie]
While I am a believer in a voucher system, I don’t think we will see it. Charters are the closest that it will come.

Reason. With vouchers all the smart kids will attend a particular school with the better teachers and will have tons of enrichment activities and programs. The have nots will not. I’ll let Brian chime in and explain this in detail.[/quote]
I agree that we probably will never see voucher system implemented in CA, unless Democrat lose control of CA. The teacher union will never allow it.

With regards to your reason, that’s exactly what we have in your higher education system and that system is one of the best in the world.

[an]

[quote=Hobie]
While I am a believer in a voucher system, I don’t think we will see it. Charters are the closest that it will come.

Reason. With vouchers all the smart kids will attend a particular school with the better teachers and will have tons of enrichment activities and programs. The have nots will not. I’ll let Brian chime in and explain this in detail.[/quote]
I agree that we probably will never see voucher system implemented in CA, unless Democrat lose control of CA. The teacher union will never allow it.

With regards to your reason, that’s exactly what we have in your higher education system and that system is one of the best in the world.

[an]

[quote=Hobie]
While I am a believer in a voucher system, I don’t think we will see it. Charters are the closest that it will come.

Reason. With vouchers all the smart kids will attend a particular school with the better teachers and will have tons of enrichment activities and programs. The have nots will not. I’ll let Brian chime in and explain this in detail.[/quote]
I agree that we probably will never see voucher system implemented in CA, unless Democrat lose control of CA. The teacher union will never allow it.

With regards to your reason, that’s exactly what we have in your higher education system and that system is one of the best in the world.

[an]

[quote=Hobie]
While I am a believer in a voucher system, I don’t think we will see it. Charters are the closest that it will come.

Reason. With vouchers all the smart kids will attend a particular school with the better teachers and will have tons of enrichment activities and programs. The have nots will not. I’ll let Brian chime in and explain this in detail.[/quote]
I agree that we probably will never see voucher system implemented in CA, unless Democrat lose control of CA. The teacher union will never allow it.

With regards to your reason, that’s exactly what we have in your higher education system and that system is one of the best in the world.

[nla]

[quote=AN]

One interesting I noticed while looking at a whole bunch of different HS with rank 8-10, I noticed that the more diverse the school, the more likely for it be be ranked 9 or 8 vs ranked 10. If you look at the Asian/White/Filipino scores between MM/Scripps/RB/Westview/Mt. Carmel/UC/etc. They all are quite similar +/- 20 points. However, those that are ranked 8&9 on that list have a higher % of black/hispanic/Socioeconomically Disadvantaged/English Learners. The more I look at the numbers in detail, the less I’m impressed with the rank 10 API schools.[/quote]

Eastlake schools fits that scenario that AN described above (not necessarily disadvantaged/blacks but heavy Hispanic population). Take Eastlake and Olympian for examples:

Eastlake
Filipino: 850
White: 833
Hispanic: 741
School: 787

Olympian
Filipino: 856
White: 839
Hispanic: 754
School: 792

Other Asians population on these schools are small so there’s no data for them, but their score is probably comparable, if not higher, to Filipinos and Whites.

As you can see the difference between Filipino/White and Hispanic scores is about 100 points. The Hispanic population of these schools are about 50%. Compare that to schools in PUSD w/c on average has about 10% or less Hispanics.

As AN said above, if you analyze the numbers and the demographics, the less impression you got from the 9 or 10 schools.

[nla]

[quote=AN]

One interesting I noticed while looking at a whole bunch of different HS with rank 8-10, I noticed that the more diverse the school, the more likely for it be be ranked 9 or 8 vs ranked 10. If you look at the Asian/White/Filipino scores between MM/Scripps/RB/Westview/Mt. Carmel/UC/etc. They all are quite similar +/- 20 points. However, those that are ranked 8&9 on that list have a higher % of black/hispanic/Socioeconomically Disadvantaged/English Learners. The more I look at the numbers in detail, the less I’m impressed with the rank 10 API schools.[/quote]

Eastlake schools fits that scenario that AN described above (not necessarily disadvantaged/blacks but heavy Hispanic population). Take Eastlake and Olympian for examples:

Eastlake
Filipino: 850
White: 833
Hispanic: 741
School: 787

Olympian
Filipino: 856
White: 839
Hispanic: 754
School: 792

Other Asians population on these schools are small so there’s no data for them, but their score is probably comparable, if not higher, to Filipinos and Whites.

As you can see the difference between Filipino/White and Hispanic scores is about 100 points. The Hispanic population of these schools are about 50%. Compare that to schools in PUSD w/c on average has about 10% or less Hispanics.

As AN said above, if you analyze the numbers and the demographics, the less impression you got from the 9 or 10 schools.

[nla]

[quote=AN]

One interesting I noticed while looking at a whole bunch of different HS with rank 8-10, I noticed that the more diverse the school, the more likely for it be be ranked 9 or 8 vs ranked 10. If you look at the Asian/White/Filipino scores between MM/Scripps/RB/Westview/Mt. Carmel/UC/etc. They all are quite similar +/- 20 points. However, those that are ranked 8&9 on that list have a higher % of black/hispanic/Socioeconomically Disadvantaged/English Learners. The more I look at the numbers in detail, the less I’m impressed with the rank 10 API schools.[/quote]

Eastlake schools fits that scenario that AN described above (not necessarily disadvantaged/blacks but heavy Hispanic population). Take Eastlake and Olympian for examples:

Eastlake
Filipino: 850
White: 833
Hispanic: 741
School: 787

Olympian
Filipino: 856
White: 839
Hispanic: 754
School: 792

Other Asians population on these schools are small so there’s no data for them, but their score is probably comparable, if not higher, to Filipinos and Whites.

As you can see the difference between Filipino/White and Hispanic scores is about 100 points. The Hispanic population of these schools are about 50%. Compare that to schools in PUSD w/c on average has about 10% or less Hispanics.

As AN said above, if you analyze the numbers and the demographics, the less impression you got from the 9 or 10 schools.

[nla]

[quote=AN]

One interesting I noticed while looking at a whole bunch of different HS with rank 8-10, I noticed that the more diverse the school, the more likely for it be be ranked 9 or 8 vs ranked 10. If you look at the Asian/White/Filipino scores between MM/Scripps/RB/Westview/Mt. Carmel/UC/etc. They all are quite similar +/- 20 points. However, those that are ranked 8&9 on that list have a higher % of black/hispanic/Socioeconomically Disadvantaged/English Learners. The more I look at the numbers in detail, the less I’m impressed with the rank 10 API schools.[/quote]

Eastlake schools fits that scenario that AN described above (not necessarily disadvantaged/blacks but heavy Hispanic population). Take Eastlake and Olympian for examples:

Eastlake
Filipino: 850
White: 833
Hispanic: 741
School: 787

Olympian
Filipino: 856
White: 839
Hispanic: 754
School: 792

Other Asians population on these schools are small so there’s no data for them, but their score is probably comparable, if not higher, to Filipinos and Whites.

As you can see the difference between Filipino/White and Hispanic scores is about 100 points. The Hispanic population of these schools are about 50%. Compare that to schools in PUSD w/c on average has about 10% or less Hispanics.

As AN said above, if you analyze the numbers and the demographics, the less impression you got from the 9 or 10 schools.

[nla]

[quote=AN]

One interesting I noticed while looking at a whole bunch of different HS with rank 8-10, I noticed that the more diverse the school, the more likely for it be be ranked 9 or 8 vs ranked 10. If you look at the Asian/White/Filipino scores between MM/Scripps/RB/Westview/Mt. Carmel/UC/etc. They all are quite similar +/- 20 points. However, those that are ranked 8&9 on that list have a higher % of black/hispanic/Socioeconomically Disadvantaged/English Learners. The more I look at the numbers in detail, the less I’m impressed with the rank 10 API schools.[/quote]

Eastlake schools fits that scenario that AN described above (not necessarily disadvantaged/blacks but heavy Hispanic population). Take Eastlake and Olympian for examples:

Eastlake
Filipino: 850
White: 833
Hispanic: 741
School: 787

Olympian
Filipino: 856
White: 839
Hispanic: 754
School: 792

Other Asians population on these schools are small so there’s no data for them, but their score is probably comparable, if not higher, to Filipinos and Whites.

As you can see the difference between Filipino/White and Hispanic scores is about 100 points. The Hispanic population of these schools are about 50%. Compare that to schools in PUSD w/c on average has about 10% or less Hispanics.

As AN said above, if you analyze the numbers and the demographics, the less impression you got from the 9 or 10 schools.

[Eugene]

[quote=nla]
Eastlake schools fits that scenario that AN described above (not necessarily disadvantaged/blacks but heavy Hispanic population). Take Eastlake and Olympian for examples:

Eastlake
Filipino: 850
White: 833
Hispanic: 741
School: 787

Olympian
Filipino: 856
White: 839
Hispanic: 754
School: 792
[/quote]

And those are fairly well-off, middle class and occasionally upper middle Hispanics.

Look five miles to the southwest, you have San Ysidro High (hispanic: 656) and Montgomery Senior High (hispanic: 627). I bet, more than a few of these walk across the border from TJ to school every day.

[Eugene]

[quote=nla]
Eastlake schools fits that scenario that AN described above (not necessarily disadvantaged/blacks but heavy Hispanic population). Take Eastlake and Olympian for examples:

Eastlake
Filipino: 850
White: 833
Hispanic: 741
School: 787

Olympian
Filipino: 856
White: 839
Hispanic: 754
School: 792
[/quote]

And those are fairly well-off, middle class and occasionally upper middle Hispanics.

Look five miles to the southwest, you have San Ysidro High (hispanic: 656) and Montgomery Senior High (hispanic: 627). I bet, more than a few of these walk across the border from TJ to school every day.

[Eugene]

[quote=nla]
Eastlake schools fits that scenario that AN described above (not necessarily disadvantaged/blacks but heavy Hispanic population). Take Eastlake and Olympian for examples:

Eastlake
Filipino: 850
White: 833
Hispanic: 741
School: 787

Olympian
Filipino: 856
White: 839
Hispanic: 754
School: 792
[/quote]

And those are fairly well-off, middle class and occasionally upper middle Hispanics.

Look five miles to the southwest, you have San Ysidro High (hispanic: 656) and Montgomery Senior High (hispanic: 627). I bet, more than a few of these walk across the border from TJ to school every day.

[Eugene]

[quote=nla]
Eastlake schools fits that scenario that AN described above (not necessarily disadvantaged/blacks but heavy Hispanic population). Take Eastlake and Olympian for examples:

Eastlake
Filipino: 850
White: 833
Hispanic: 741
School: 787

Olympian
Filipino: 856
White: 839
Hispanic: 754
School: 792
[/quote]

And those are fairly well-off, middle class and occasionally upper middle Hispanics.

Look five miles to the southwest, you have San Ysidro High (hispanic: 656) and Montgomery Senior High (hispanic: 627). I bet, more than a few of these walk across the border from TJ to school every day.

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