Ignore Ron Paul are the new marching orders?

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[quote=ucodegen]
I am going to add the following – because I just got through dealing with it. We are shipping too much of our labor overseas, and it really doesn’t pay off. Too many companies are looking at the raw labor cost not factoring in production rate and quality. The reason this came up: I had to deal with Oracle support (MOS). On one issue, I had to deal with support based in China. The experience was almost like “Who’s on First”. Fine if I was wanting entertainment, but I have to deal with a system with reduced functionality – needs to be fixed. Part of the discussion ended up with the support person repeating everything I had entered, but in the form of a question.[/quote]

I feel your pain UCG, but I’m worried that the outcome will simply be to move everything overseas. Case in point – I know of a couple of projects where everyone involved is in China except project management which is here in the US. They have lots of problems, delays, etc… that all come down to time zone and communications issues. So what’s easier? Move all of the work back here or just hire a PM in China?

Once the big rock starts rolling downhill it’s hard to stop. I’m just trying to get out of the way.

I am heartened by this new show “Hoarders”, though. I think that hoarding cleanup might be a good business to get into.

[aldante]

That is easy. He won the cpac straw poll 2 YEARS in a row. He won the straw poll in New Orleans…he was on top of a Rasmussen poll a couple of months ago as the republican who can beat Obama……….there are more

[aldante]

That is easy. He won the cpac straw poll 2 YEARS in a row. He won the straw poll in New Orleans…he was on top of a Rasmussen poll a couple of months ago as the republican who can beat Obama……….there are more

[aldante]

That is easy. He won the cpac straw poll 2 YEARS in a row. He won the straw poll in New Orleans…he was on top of a Rasmussen poll a couple of months ago as the republican who can beat Obama……….there are more

[aldante]

That is easy. He won the cpac straw poll 2 YEARS in a row. He won the straw poll in New Orleans…he was on top of a Rasmussen poll a couple of months ago as the republican who can beat Obama……….there are more

[aldante]

That is easy. He won the cpac straw poll 2 YEARS in a row. He won the straw poll in New Orleans…he was on top of a Rasmussen poll a couple of months ago as the republican who can beat Obama……….there are more

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[quote=ucodegen] The experience was almost like “Who’s on First”. [/quote]

Classic!

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[quote=ucodegen] The experience was almost like “Who’s on First”. [/quote]

Classic!

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[quote=ucodegen] The experience was almost like “Who’s on First”. [/quote]

Classic!

[jpinpb]

[quote=ucodegen] The experience was almost like “Who’s on First”. [/quote]

Classic!

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[quote=ucodegen] The experience was almost like “Who’s on First”. [/quote]

Classic!

[The-Shoveler]

[quote=ucodegen][quote=Nor-LA-SD-GUY2]You have to fix housing or wait for it to fix itself that is the only way you will get out of the current high unemployment problems (and no there are not too many houses at least not in socal).[/quote]
I don’t think housing will lead us out of this one. Functionally, housings biggest single cost item is land. Land is not produced in a factory nor does the sale of land create jobs. It does pay the ‘landed wealthy’ though when they can sell parts of parcels they own. The concentration needs to be on jobs, not saving Real Estate. Tweaking rates, mortgage terms etc to allow a how to sell at a higher price may help the one selling, but it doesn’t help the one buying.

I am going to add the following – because I just got through dealing with it. We are shipping too much of our labor overseas, and it really doesn’t pay off. Too many companies are looking at the raw labor cost not factoring in production rate and quality. The reason this came up: I had to deal with Oracle support (MOS). On one issue, I had to deal with support based in China. The experience was almost like “Who’s on First”. Fine if I was wanting entertainment, but I have to deal with a system with reduced functionality – needs to be fixed. Part of the discussion ended up with the support person repeating everything I had entered, but in the form of a question.[/quote]

Nope it’s the same problem we had in 2008 and 2009.
HOUSING !!
In CA approx. 30 % of home owners with a mortgage owe about 100K more than they can sell for, sorry you just cannot have an economic recovery in conditions like that.

Personally I don’t know any tech people out of work.

[The-Shoveler]

[quote=ucodegen][quote=Nor-LA-SD-GUY2]You have to fix housing or wait for it to fix itself that is the only way you will get out of the current high unemployment problems (and no there are not too many houses at least not in socal).[/quote]
I don’t think housing will lead us out of this one. Functionally, housings biggest single cost item is land. Land is not produced in a factory nor does the sale of land create jobs. It does pay the ‘landed wealthy’ though when they can sell parts of parcels they own. The concentration needs to be on jobs, not saving Real Estate. Tweaking rates, mortgage terms etc to allow a how to sell at a higher price may help the one selling, but it doesn’t help the one buying.

I am going to add the following – because I just got through dealing with it. We are shipping too much of our labor overseas, and it really doesn’t pay off. Too many companies are looking at the raw labor cost not factoring in production rate and quality. The reason this came up: I had to deal with Oracle support (MOS). On one issue, I had to deal with support based in China. The experience was almost like “Who’s on First”. Fine if I was wanting entertainment, but I have to deal with a system with reduced functionality – needs to be fixed. Part of the discussion ended up with the support person repeating everything I had entered, but in the form of a question.[/quote]

Nope it’s the same problem we had in 2008 and 2009.
HOUSING !!
In CA approx. 30 % of home owners with a mortgage owe about 100K more than they can sell for, sorry you just cannot have an economic recovery in conditions like that.

Personally I don’t know any tech people out of work.

[The-Shoveler]

[quote=ucodegen][quote=Nor-LA-SD-GUY2]You have to fix housing or wait for it to fix itself that is the only way you will get out of the current high unemployment problems (and no there are not too many houses at least not in socal).[/quote]
I don’t think housing will lead us out of this one. Functionally, housings biggest single cost item is land. Land is not produced in a factory nor does the sale of land create jobs. It does pay the ‘landed wealthy’ though when they can sell parts of parcels they own. The concentration needs to be on jobs, not saving Real Estate. Tweaking rates, mortgage terms etc to allow a how to sell at a higher price may help the one selling, but it doesn’t help the one buying.

I am going to add the following – because I just got through dealing with it. We are shipping too much of our labor overseas, and it really doesn’t pay off. Too many companies are looking at the raw labor cost not factoring in production rate and quality. The reason this came up: I had to deal with Oracle support (MOS). On one issue, I had to deal with support based in China. The experience was almost like “Who’s on First”. Fine if I was wanting entertainment, but I have to deal with a system with reduced functionality – needs to be fixed. Part of the discussion ended up with the support person repeating everything I had entered, but in the form of a question.[/quote]

Nope it’s the same problem we had in 2008 and 2009.
HOUSING !!
In CA approx. 30 % of home owners with a mortgage owe about 100K more than they can sell for, sorry you just cannot have an economic recovery in conditions like that.

Personally I don’t know any tech people out of work.

[The-Shoveler]

[quote=ucodegen][quote=Nor-LA-SD-GUY2]You have to fix housing or wait for it to fix itself that is the only way you will get out of the current high unemployment problems (and no there are not too many houses at least not in socal).[/quote]
I don’t think housing will lead us out of this one. Functionally, housings biggest single cost item is land. Land is not produced in a factory nor does the sale of land create jobs. It does pay the ‘landed wealthy’ though when they can sell parts of parcels they own. The concentration needs to be on jobs, not saving Real Estate. Tweaking rates, mortgage terms etc to allow a how to sell at a higher price may help the one selling, but it doesn’t help the one buying.

I am going to add the following – because I just got through dealing with it. We are shipping too much of our labor overseas, and it really doesn’t pay off. Too many companies are looking at the raw labor cost not factoring in production rate and quality. The reason this came up: I had to deal with Oracle support (MOS). On one issue, I had to deal with support based in China. The experience was almost like “Who’s on First”. Fine if I was wanting entertainment, but I have to deal with a system with reduced functionality – needs to be fixed. Part of the discussion ended up with the support person repeating everything I had entered, but in the form of a question.[/quote]

Nope it’s the same problem we had in 2008 and 2009.
HOUSING !!
In CA approx. 30 % of home owners with a mortgage owe about 100K more than they can sell for, sorry you just cannot have an economic recovery in conditions like that.

Personally I don’t know any tech people out of work.

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