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  • February 17, 2009 at 6:13 PM #348881
    Rt.66
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    I know you aren’t calling me stupid!

    Anyone who belives the MSM BS about UAW workers making double is a complete lemming tool. Do a little of your own research and stop towing the parrot lines your corporate masters throw to you.

    Do a little research into health insurance laws in the US versus the rest of the world and the unfair burden our own Gov. forces on our manufacturers. How about frivalous law suits? Care to guess how much Ford and GM have in each car to cover those costs, versus glorious Japan?

    Every heard of currency manipulation?

    No way someone who makes the remarks you do can be successful enough to own a Navigator.

    Oh wait this is the interent….I have two Navigators and and four Escalades. And I have a 57 Cheby too, chop chort, candy apple red!

    February 17, 2009 at 6:20 PM #348317
    davelj
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    As to the auto makers not ultimately having to go through the BK process I have the following suggestion:

    Take a shit in one hand and put all of your hope in the other hand and see which one fills up faster.

    February 17, 2009 at 6:20 PM #348634
    davelj
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    As to the auto makers not ultimately having to go through the BK process I have the following suggestion:

    Take a shit in one hand and put all of your hope in the other hand and see which one fills up faster.

    February 17, 2009 at 6:20 PM #348753
    davelj
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    As to the auto makers not ultimately having to go through the BK process I have the following suggestion:

    Take a shit in one hand and put all of your hope in the other hand and see which one fills up faster.

    February 17, 2009 at 6:20 PM #348785
    davelj
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    As to the auto makers not ultimately having to go through the BK process I have the following suggestion:

    Take a shit in one hand and put all of your hope in the other hand and see which one fills up faster.

    February 17, 2009 at 6:20 PM #348886
    davelj
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    As to the auto makers not ultimately having to go through the BK process I have the following suggestion:

    Take a shit in one hand and put all of your hope in the other hand and see which one fills up faster.

    February 17, 2009 at 6:30 PM #348322
    Rt.66
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    [quote=davelj]As to the auto makers not ultimately having to go through the BK process I have the following suggestion:

    Take a shit in one hand and put all of your hope in the other hand and see which one fills up faster.[/quote]

    Do you have some sort of inside information you’d like to share? Or is it just that you have no faith in our governments resolve to throw as much money at it as is needed?

    UAW jobs are good jobs. Companies that employ people for 100 years, pay them well and keep their pension and benefit commitments are to celebrated not scorned. Most Americans will only come to understand this when their own pension goes bye-bye in a BK.

    February 17, 2009 at 6:30 PM #348639
    Rt.66
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    [quote=davelj]As to the auto makers not ultimately having to go through the BK process I have the following suggestion:

    Take a shit in one hand and put all of your hope in the other hand and see which one fills up faster.[/quote]

    Do you have some sort of inside information you’d like to share? Or is it just that you have no faith in our governments resolve to throw as much money at it as is needed?

    UAW jobs are good jobs. Companies that employ people for 100 years, pay them well and keep their pension and benefit commitments are to celebrated not scorned. Most Americans will only come to understand this when their own pension goes bye-bye in a BK.

    February 17, 2009 at 6:30 PM #348758
    Rt.66
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    [quote=davelj]As to the auto makers not ultimately having to go through the BK process I have the following suggestion:

    Take a shit in one hand and put all of your hope in the other hand and see which one fills up faster.[/quote]

    Do you have some sort of inside information you’d like to share? Or is it just that you have no faith in our governments resolve to throw as much money at it as is needed?

    UAW jobs are good jobs. Companies that employ people for 100 years, pay them well and keep their pension and benefit commitments are to celebrated not scorned. Most Americans will only come to understand this when their own pension goes bye-bye in a BK.

    February 17, 2009 at 6:30 PM #348790
    Rt.66
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    [quote=davelj]As to the auto makers not ultimately having to go through the BK process I have the following suggestion:

    Take a shit in one hand and put all of your hope in the other hand and see which one fills up faster.[/quote]

    Do you have some sort of inside information you’d like to share? Or is it just that you have no faith in our governments resolve to throw as much money at it as is needed?

    UAW jobs are good jobs. Companies that employ people for 100 years, pay them well and keep their pension and benefit commitments are to celebrated not scorned. Most Americans will only come to understand this when their own pension goes bye-bye in a BK.

    February 17, 2009 at 6:30 PM #348891
    Rt.66
    Participant

    [quote=davelj]As to the auto makers not ultimately having to go through the BK process I have the following suggestion:

    Take a shit in one hand and put all of your hope in the other hand and see which one fills up faster.[/quote]

    Do you have some sort of inside information you’d like to share? Or is it just that you have no faith in our governments resolve to throw as much money at it as is needed?

    UAW jobs are good jobs. Companies that employ people for 100 years, pay them well and keep their pension and benefit commitments are to celebrated not scorned. Most Americans will only come to understand this when their own pension goes bye-bye in a BK.

    February 17, 2009 at 6:32 PM #348327
    Coronita
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    The new stimulus bill gives folks who buy a car in 2009 that make under $250k/year household income a tax deduction on the sales tax.

    But funny thing is that it doesn’t say you have to buy an american car from a company which the Fed is planning to bailout…

    Hmmmm. Let me think about that one…

    The Fed gives GM/Chrysler a loan.
    The Fed subsidizes new car purchases.

    American consumers decide to buy a non GM/Chrysler car…Fed loses, GM/Chrysler loses, american tax payers loose…But I’m sure Japan/Germany/Korea and everyone other maker of a car company that actually has some desirable product wins…

    Yes this is making more and more sense.
    (Yes, yes, I know toyota/honda/bmw have factories in the U.S. with U.S. jobs).

    Any more brilliant ideas?

    February 17, 2009 at 6:32 PM #348644
    Coronita
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    The new stimulus bill gives folks who buy a car in 2009 that make under $250k/year household income a tax deduction on the sales tax.

    But funny thing is that it doesn’t say you have to buy an american car from a company which the Fed is planning to bailout…

    Hmmmm. Let me think about that one…

    The Fed gives GM/Chrysler a loan.
    The Fed subsidizes new car purchases.

    American consumers decide to buy a non GM/Chrysler car…Fed loses, GM/Chrysler loses, american tax payers loose…But I’m sure Japan/Germany/Korea and everyone other maker of a car company that actually has some desirable product wins…

    Yes this is making more and more sense.
    (Yes, yes, I know toyota/honda/bmw have factories in the U.S. with U.S. jobs).

    Any more brilliant ideas?

    February 17, 2009 at 6:32 PM #348763
    Coronita
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    The new stimulus bill gives folks who buy a car in 2009 that make under $250k/year household income a tax deduction on the sales tax.

    But funny thing is that it doesn’t say you have to buy an american car from a company which the Fed is planning to bailout…

    Hmmmm. Let me think about that one…

    The Fed gives GM/Chrysler a loan.
    The Fed subsidizes new car purchases.

    American consumers decide to buy a non GM/Chrysler car…Fed loses, GM/Chrysler loses, american tax payers loose…But I’m sure Japan/Germany/Korea and everyone other maker of a car company that actually has some desirable product wins…

    Yes this is making more and more sense.
    (Yes, yes, I know toyota/honda/bmw have factories in the U.S. with U.S. jobs).

    Any more brilliant ideas?

    February 17, 2009 at 6:32 PM #348795
    Coronita
    Participant

    The new stimulus bill gives folks who buy a car in 2009 that make under $250k/year household income a tax deduction on the sales tax.

    But funny thing is that it doesn’t say you have to buy an american car from a company which the Fed is planning to bailout…

    Hmmmm. Let me think about that one…

    The Fed gives GM/Chrysler a loan.
    The Fed subsidizes new car purchases.

    American consumers decide to buy a non GM/Chrysler car…Fed loses, GM/Chrysler loses, american tax payers loose…But I’m sure Japan/Germany/Korea and everyone other maker of a car company that actually has some desirable product wins…

    Yes this is making more and more sense.
    (Yes, yes, I know toyota/honda/bmw have factories in the U.S. with U.S. jobs).

    Any more brilliant ideas?

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