GM seeks up to $30B in aid, to cut 47,000 jobs

[rnen]

[quote=Scarlet][quote=rnen]

I have owned nissan pick ups in the past and zero problems.

IMHO and experience GMC and their pampered union workers turn out crap. I must be the exception to the rule.[/quote]

I don’t know but I do know you are the exception when it comes to giving Nissan props for their POS

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/nissan_titan.html

Check out the muffler fell off post LOL!

Look I know I’m gonna get piled on for taking the side of the American auto maker, that a no-brainer for no-brainers.

Corporate America does not want us building the products we buy. They surely do not want us demanding that the products we purchase be built in the US by US workers. They want to control labor and labor costs of everything we are allowed to purchase. They are smart, and they are succeeding. It won’t be long now before their plan will be complete. You haters will usher that along with the torrent of anti-American posts that always follow anybody trying to say something good about US cars.

So tell yourself whatever makes you feel better. Or you could actually look at some reports on the quality of US cars??? Nah, that might confuse your preconcieved and pre-programed thought patterns.[/quote]

Not telling myself anything or buying into anything, just going from experience. Yours was different from mine, good for you. Still will not buy another gmc truck, possibly a Ford as I have had success with them in the past.

Look, the qaulity may have improved recently but a lot of folks, me included, bought worthless piles of junk from GM, Ford and Dodge from the 70’s through to the early 2000’s. Wonder where some of the programming came from???? Could it be 30 yrs of crap??? Ya, no excuse for those preconcieved and pre-programmed thought patterns. Maybe I created the problems because I was programmed to! 😉

The American companies have to win back trust and that will take time, they brought this on themselves.

[Rt.66]

The corporations are strong in this one.

Wow, do you have thinner brush maybe?

Everytime I go to a fast food restaurant I see people slacking off and avoiding work, ditto for the airport, traffic crews, Home Depot, etc.

Can you think of any good things unions have given the American worker? Do you think corporate America would have willingly given over the wage and benefit concessions the unions have won?

Yes there are bad aspects to unions but unless you run in Trump circles, your bread is more buttered by the efforts of unions than corps.

[Rt.66]

The corporations are strong in this one.

Wow, do you have thinner brush maybe?

Everytime I go to a fast food restaurant I see people slacking off and avoiding work, ditto for the airport, traffic crews, Home Depot, etc.

Can you think of any good things unions have given the American worker? Do you think corporate America would have willingly given over the wage and benefit concessions the unions have won?

Yes there are bad aspects to unions but unless you run in Trump circles, your bread is more buttered by the efforts of unions than corps.

[Rt.66]

The corporations are strong in this one.

Wow, do you have thinner brush maybe?

Everytime I go to a fast food restaurant I see people slacking off and avoiding work, ditto for the airport, traffic crews, Home Depot, etc.

Can you think of any good things unions have given the American worker? Do you think corporate America would have willingly given over the wage and benefit concessions the unions have won?

Yes there are bad aspects to unions but unless you run in Trump circles, your bread is more buttered by the efforts of unions than corps.

[Rt.66]

The corporations are strong in this one.

Wow, do you have thinner brush maybe?

Everytime I go to a fast food restaurant I see people slacking off and avoiding work, ditto for the airport, traffic crews, Home Depot, etc.

Can you think of any good things unions have given the American worker? Do you think corporate America would have willingly given over the wage and benefit concessions the unions have won?

Yes there are bad aspects to unions but unless you run in Trump circles, your bread is more buttered by the efforts of unions than corps.

[Rt.66]

The corporations are strong in this one.

Wow, do you have thinner brush maybe?

Everytime I go to a fast food restaurant I see people slacking off and avoiding work, ditto for the airport, traffic crews, Home Depot, etc.

Can you think of any good things unions have given the American worker? Do you think corporate America would have willingly given over the wage and benefit concessions the unions have won?

Yes there are bad aspects to unions but unless you run in Trump circles, your bread is more buttered by the efforts of unions than corps.

[Rt.66]

Devil’s advocate here:

Myself I would gladly make two, three or five extra trips per year to the dealership for repairs in order to buy as American as I can.

My experience has been bad with Japanese vehicles and good with US vehicles throught the 80s, 90s and 2000s. So this is not really something I have had to do, but I would. I’m just so sick of seeing American manufacturing gutted.

So how many extra trips would you be willing to make to throw your fellow American worker a bone?

Put a number on your national pride or lack thereof.

[Rt.66]

Devil’s advocate here:

Myself I would gladly make two, three or five extra trips per year to the dealership for repairs in order to buy as American as I can.

My experience has been bad with Japanese vehicles and good with US vehicles throught the 80s, 90s and 2000s. So this is not really something I have had to do, but I would. I’m just so sick of seeing American manufacturing gutted.

So how many extra trips would you be willing to make to throw your fellow American worker a bone?

Put a number on your national pride or lack thereof.

[Rt.66]

Devil’s advocate here:

Myself I would gladly make two, three or five extra trips per year to the dealership for repairs in order to buy as American as I can.

My experience has been bad with Japanese vehicles and good with US vehicles throught the 80s, 90s and 2000s. So this is not really something I have had to do, but I would. I’m just so sick of seeing American manufacturing gutted.

So how many extra trips would you be willing to make to throw your fellow American worker a bone?

Put a number on your national pride or lack thereof.

[Rt.66]

Devil’s advocate here:

Myself I would gladly make two, three or five extra trips per year to the dealership for repairs in order to buy as American as I can.

My experience has been bad with Japanese vehicles and good with US vehicles throught the 80s, 90s and 2000s. So this is not really something I have had to do, but I would. I’m just so sick of seeing American manufacturing gutted.

So how many extra trips would you be willing to make to throw your fellow American worker a bone?

Put a number on your national pride or lack thereof.

[Rt.66]

Devil’s advocate here:

Myself I would gladly make two, three or five extra trips per year to the dealership for repairs in order to buy as American as I can.

My experience has been bad with Japanese vehicles and good with US vehicles throught the 80s, 90s and 2000s. So this is not really something I have had to do, but I would. I’m just so sick of seeing American manufacturing gutted.

So how many extra trips would you be willing to make to throw your fellow American worker a bone?

Put a number on your national pride or lack thereof.

[macromaniac]

Case in point….

I have a 1957 Chevy Bel Air that runs like a dream. It’s over 40 years old and built with PRIDE and QUALITY parts. This thing is a tank with a cast iron block….

My Dad has a 1997 Silverado and has had nothing but problems from day one….

It’s called economic obsolescence. They make these things with limited life spans so they can bend you over at the parts counter and eventually have to get a new car….cheap shit plastic parts waiting to break….

That 57′ will last 100 years…..

[macromaniac]

Case in point….

I have a 1957 Chevy Bel Air that runs like a dream. It’s over 40 years old and built with PRIDE and QUALITY parts. This thing is a tank with a cast iron block….

My Dad has a 1997 Silverado and has had nothing but problems from day one….

It’s called economic obsolescence. They make these things with limited life spans so they can bend you over at the parts counter and eventually have to get a new car….cheap shit plastic parts waiting to break….

That 57′ will last 100 years…..

[macromaniac]

Case in point….

I have a 1957 Chevy Bel Air that runs like a dream. It’s over 40 years old and built with PRIDE and QUALITY parts. This thing is a tank with a cast iron block….

My Dad has a 1997 Silverado and has had nothing but problems from day one….

It’s called economic obsolescence. They make these things with limited life spans so they can bend you over at the parts counter and eventually have to get a new car….cheap shit plastic parts waiting to break….

That 57′ will last 100 years…..

[macromaniac]

Case in point….

I have a 1957 Chevy Bel Air that runs like a dream. It’s over 40 years old and built with PRIDE and QUALITY parts. This thing is a tank with a cast iron block….

My Dad has a 1997 Silverado and has had nothing but problems from day one….

It’s called economic obsolescence. They make these things with limited life spans so they can bend you over at the parts counter and eventually have to get a new car….cheap shit plastic parts waiting to break….

That 57′ will last 100 years…..

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