OT: The “Radical” Gay Agenda in California Public Schools

[spdrun]

Why — the world is overpopulated as it is. Fewer breeders would be a good thing.

(OK, maybe not for the R.E. market, but places like CA will always be desirable.)

[NotCranky]

[quote=spdrun]Why — the world is overpopulated as it is. Fewer breeders would be a good thing.[/quote]

Yes, but that wasn’t always true. The ability to oppose homosexuality may be as innate as the ability to accept it. This can be manipulated. That’s why culture by culture the issue is always on a pendulum type pattern to some degree.

[spdrun]

Just because it’s “innate” doesn’t make it good or useful in industrialized society ca. 2013. Homophobia seems like a dumb thing to waste one’s energy on.

[scaredyclassic]

age of consent varies by culture too.

we evolve.

or devolve.

maybe it’s not part of an “agenda”, but just a somewhat feeble attempt to be “relevant”. Catch kids attention? Like any topic du jour, global warming, honey badgers, etc.

that’s possible, right?

[SK in CV]

[quote=6packscaredy]age of consent varies by culture too.

we evolve.

or devolve.

maybe it’s not part of an “agenda”, but just a somewhat feeble attempt to be “relevant”. Catch kids attention? Like any topic du jour, global warming, honey badgers, etc.

that’s possible, right?[/quote]

No, it’s not possible. Is it possible that the battle for civil rights was just an attempt by minorities to be relevant, and there really was no discrimination occurring?

[ctr70]

Are you kidding me? You are worried about a homework assignment about how “Mary & Kate” adopt a daughter??? Dude, there are much, much, much, much bigger problems in our schools and world to worry about. Wow. I think it’s actually GOOD thing to teach tolerance in schools.

How about worrying about something that really matters like teachers pay and job stability to be based on student performance?

[SK in CV]

[quote=ctr70]

How about worrying about something that really matters like teachers pay and job stability to be based on student performance?[/quote]

I think it should be based on parents performance. Student success has a much higher correlation with parent performance than teacher performance. So if teachers can get parents to perform where they historically have not, they should get bonuses.

[no_such_reality]

Wow CAR that’s stunning. In California to think the public sector unions don’t have far more away is just stunning. Even the LA Times acknowledges that point

As for the video was it done a few years ago during the prop wars when you couldn’t turn on the tv or radio insert or October without being barraged by inflammatory ads discussing the exact same topics?

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=CA renter][quote=livinincali][quote=CA renter]
Because the PRIVATE publishing and education companies make billions of dollars every year from changes to the curriculum. You didn’t actually think the almost yearly curriculum/textbook changes were “for the children,” did you?

Those “education experts” you’re talking about? They work for PRIVATE CORPORATIONS. It’s a very lucrative business.

Of course, the uninformed yokels will try to blame these changes and the agenda-driven curriculum on the teachers and those “evil unions,” as they always do whenever something goes wrong in the public sector (and they are wrong almost 100% of the time).
[/quote]

Who makes the decision to contract/hire said private corporations? Somebody within public sector does make that decision. Whether private companies lobbied them or not the blame lies on the decision making individuals within the public sector.[/quote]

The people making those decisions are almost always elected or appointed politicians and their chosen administrators. In case you haven’t noticed, most of them are bought/owned by corporations. Unions/teachers have far less to do with this than corporations, special interest groups, think tanks, etc. — people who work outside of government. I just want to make that very clear.

People like to demonize “the government” and rank-and-file union workers as though they are one and the same. They are not. Most union members totally disagree with the way the government spends/wastes money.[/quote]

We can seperate the words Unions from Teachers in this arguement.

The district are in full control of thier circulms and rule them with an iron fist.

So I am calling shenigans on this arguement of special interest. In fact most districts are not changing thier books year to year.

They simple can’t afford to. Hell they are having trouble keeping teachers on thier pay roles so this arguement of spending money on books is not valid.

The fact of the matter is with this country’s education system being one of the worst of the first world countries “what are we doing?” spend time with this subject, any subject, outside of the three Rs?

Simply the teachers have other things they should be focused on.

And before we get of on a tangent I belive the primary reasons for failing schools starts at home.

But damnit stop with the proganda machine. The OP above said private sector… Not Unions.

Man you never miss a chance to champion…

CE

[NotCranky]

[quote=spdrun]Just because it’s “innate” doesn’t make it good or useful in industrialized society ca. 2013. Homophobia seems like a dumb thing to waste one’s energy on.[/quote]
True. However, stating the obvious, some people are strongly immeshed in paradigms set out by church and state that are against the mere notion that homosexuality is at worst a neutral thing.

We still have some rural situations where lack of reproduction is perceived
as a survival or material problem, at least at the family level. Probably not many, but I did meet one gay man who was caught up in this situation on his family’s dairy farm.

We should be sensitive to people who are feeling distraught over this changing Paradigm whether they are gay or homophobic. This isn’t the Netherlands. You don’t know what the homophobic has been through. It seems like piggs are being fairly sensitive to Paramount. Age appropriateness should always be open for discussion on any topic.

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=spdrun]Just because it’s “innate” doesn’t make it good or useful in industrialized society ca. 2013. Homophobia seems like a dumb thing to waste one’s energy on.[/quote]

Or any kind of racist…

For me… I am simply to lazy to be a racist or a homophob…

These things take time and energy and like I said I am to lazy to do this…

CE

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=SK in CV][quote=6packscaredy]age of consent varies by culture too.

we evolve.

or devolve.

maybe it’s not part of an “agenda”, but just a somewhat feeble attempt to be “relevant”. Catch kids attention? Like any topic du jour, global warming, honey badgers, etc.

that’s possible, right?[/quote]

No, it’s not possible. Is it possible that the battle for civil rights was just an attempt by minorities to be relevant, and there really was no discrimination occurring?[/quote]

i meant including a topic ina reading assignment as an attempt by the writer to be “hip” or “relevant”…like talking about “facebook”, or “justin bieber”…in a kids textbook…

[NotCranky]

[quote=SK in CV][quote=ctr70]

How about worrying about something that really matters like teachers pay and job stability to be based on student performance?[/quote]

I think it should be based on parents performance. Student success has a much higher correlation with parent performance than teacher performance. So if teachers can get parents to perform where they historically have not, they should get bonuses.[/quote]

Maybe a nice direction to go, I don’t know, I have my doubts too, but that might not be a fair burden upon the teacher. In lots of places if you are a waste of time academically, you go home.

[NotCranky]

[quote=CDMA ENG][quote=Blogstar]I was able to surmise when I was 7 that my dad had banged someone elses wife….[/quote]

Five for me… Though I didnt think about sex. It was just another woman. I saw a cigarette with lipstick on it in the cars ashtray and asked my dad if mom had started smoking. He told me know and that the cigarette should be our little secert. I put it all together around 8. I don’t know who felt more cheated on… My mom or me for my dad making me part of his betrayal.

CE[/quote]
Sorry that happened to you. That sucks.

In my case the case of my father I was not too hurt by it directly.We were seriously at odds already. The act of revenge I witnessed the woman’s husband attempt and the ensuing divorce of my parents were educational ,or illustrative , or something like that. There are better ways to learn to be honest and keep your business from where it doesn’t belong, of course.

[paramount]

[quote=ctr70]

How about worrying about something that really matters like teachers pay and job stability to be based on student performance?[/quote]

With a ridiculous comment like that, you’re the one that’s kidding.

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