OT: The “Radical” Gay Agenda in California Public Schools

[sdduuuude]

[quote=sdduuuude]Just because he thinks they are radical doesn’t mean he is anti-homosexuals.[/quote]

Well, maybe against the radical ones with an agenda, which is likely not very many.

[Coronita]

Meh, it doesn’t bother me…

But I would rather have preferred our educators to have have created math assignments that read something like:

“If Joe maxes out and borrows $20000 on a credit card, and makes $20 a payment each month, how many months will it take Joe to pay off his credit card debt, assuming he doesn’t borrow any more money from it and there is no interest charges?”

Of course, I have a feeling that sort of math question wouldn’t be allowed, because it would be flagged as borderline “family values” that shouldn’t be taught in a public school math class…

[sdduuuude]

[quote=flu]Meh, it doesn’t bother me…

But I would rather have preferred our educators to have have created math assignments that read something like:

If Joe maxes out and borrows $20000 on a credit card, and makes $20 a payment each month, how many months will it take Joe to pay off his credit card debt, assuming he doesn’t borrow any more money from it?

Of course, I have a feeling that sort of math question wouldn’t be allowed, because it would be flagged as borderline “family values” that shouldn’t be taught in a public school math class…[/quote]

Post of the month nominee !

[no_such_reality]

What’s the underlying concern again?

the OP will need to explain if their child ask why the child in the story has two mommies or two daddies instead of a mommy and daddy like them?

or the Op will need to explain why the child in the story needs to be adopted? What’s adoption?

or the OP will need to explain why the parents in the story are adopting?

[Coronita]

[quote=sdduuuude][quote=flu]Meh, it doesn’t bother me…

But I would rather have preferred our educators to have have created math assignments that read something like:

If Joe maxes out and borrows $20000 on a credit card, and makes $20 a payment each month, how many months will it take Joe to pay off his credit card debt, assuming he doesn’t borrow any more money from it?

Of course, I have a feeling that sort of math question wouldn’t be allowed, because it would be flagged as borderline “family values” that shouldn’t be taught in a public school math class…[/quote]

Post of the month nominee ![/quote]

The irony of it, isn’t it???

On one hand, some have stated “how are the uninformed/uneducated suppose to understand/learn better money management skills and teach their kids those skills if they didn’t learn themselves?”…. But on the other hand, who is going to teach those money management skills, if money management skills can’t be taught in a public school?

Oh well, not my problem and not my kid’s problem I guess.

[Rich Toscano]

[quote=sdduuuude]
Well, maybe against the radical ones with an agenda, which is likely not very many.[/quote]

That’s my point — there is no “radical gay agenda” here.

Here’s what happened: a reading assignment mentioned, in passing, 2 women adopting a child together. Where exactly is the “radical agenda?” I don’t see it.

OP’s takeaway: “Radical gay agenda! It sickens me!”

You are giving him a pass by saying it’s not about the gays, that it’s about early discussion of sexuality.

First, there’s nothing radical about that. I remember getting sex education in 5th grade. That was in 1981. And it was way more explicit than this, which is really just about two women adopting a child together (you could probably skirt the sex part pretty easily if the child asks about it).

Second, if it’s just about any mention of sexuality, why is the title The “Radical” Gay Agenda in California Public Schools? Why isn’t it The Radical Early Sex Education Agenda?

So, like I said (more succinctly) in my first post:

oblique mention to a youngster of two women adopting a child ==
an “agenda”, and also, “sickening”

Sounds pretty anti-gay to me.

[Coronita]

For the uninformed..

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/education/2005-03-03-finance-highscool_x.htm

http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/why_isnt_financial_education_taught_in_schools

http://www.bankrate.com/finance/savings/schools-urged-teach-kids-about-money.aspx

[spdrun]

“If Joe maxes out and borrows $20000 on a credit card, and makes $20 a payment each month, how many months will it take Joe to pay off his credit card debt, assuming he doesn’t borrow any more money from it and there is no interest charges?”

Of course, I have a feeling that sort of math question wouldn’t be allowed, because it would be flagged as borderline “family values” that shouldn’t be taught in a public school math class…

I can’t speak to the People’s Republic of CA, but when I went to public HS in small-town NJ in the 90s, we had interest-amortization and things like that in high school calculus. Or maybe it was our economics class, can’t remember, but no one objected…

We also had shop, home-ec, and basic electronic theory classes, the latter taught by a retired radio engineer from Bell Labs, so the school was big on “life skills” as well as hard sciences and math up to calculus.

[Coronita]

[quote=spdrun]

“If Joe maxes out and borrows $20000 on a credit card, and makes $20 a payment each month, how many months will it take Joe to pay off his credit card debt, assuming he doesn’t borrow any more money from it and there is no interest charges?”

Of course, I have a feeling that sort of math question wouldn’t be allowed, because it would be flagged as borderline “family values” that shouldn’t be taught in a public school math class…

I can’t speak to the People’s Republic of CA, but when I went to HS in small-town NJ in the 90s, we had interest-amortization and things like that in high school calculus. Or maybe it was our economics class, can’t remember, but no one objected…

We also had shop, home-ec, and basic electronic theory classes, the latter taught by a retired radio engineer from Bell Labs.[/quote]

Um, I’m not even really worried about Calculus or amortization, or heck even compound interest.

How just about a very simple lesson that if you Borrow $X to buy crap that doesn’t generate income, and make $X/1000 payments each month, you become a debt slave bitch-boy for Y years until it’s paid off….

Simple elementary school math, that could be taught to just about any elementary school kid, from honors level to remedial and might actually help out when Joe is old enough to use his credit card….

Again, I’m all gay rights, adoptions, etc,etc. And that’s all fine and dandy. But look at the way a lot of people in this country handle their finances. Heck, look at how our government handles its finances.. You think *maybe* our educators would get a clue on what sort education crisis we have in this country? Or is the truth, they aren’t qualified to teach it because they suck at managing their own finances as well?

[spdrun]

My point was that such things ARE taught in (at least some) schools. Political correctness in the sense of not teaching “family values” is not at issue here.

[Coronita]

[quote=spdrun]My point was that such things ARE taught in (at least some) schools. Political correctness in the sense of not teaching “family values” is not at issue here.[/quote]

It’s taught in 6 states… NJ and NY happen to be one of them..And even as you admit, it’s only taught in the upper honors classes, which means it’s not taught to most people. Most people in high school aren’t necessarily taking calculus.

There is no federal standard. And some distance back one district I remember attempted that in CA and it was shot down.

[spdrun]

I’d say that probably 80-90% of students went on to take at least pre-calc (derivatives) if not Calculus (integration).

Our of curiosity, is your 6 out of (50?) states a real number or is it an attempt at humor? I’d actually be interested in seeing stats as to what is required reading in which state.

[Coronita]

[quote=spdrun]I’d say that probably 80-90% of students went on to take at least pre-calc (derivatives) if not Calculus (integration).

Our of curiosity, is your 6 out of (50?) states a real number or is it an attempt at humor? I’d actually be interested in seeing stats as to what is required reading in which state.[/quote]

The majority of high school students ARENT taking calculus or for that matter pre-calc. And again, teaching 1-2 weeks of compound interest and amortization the last year before college is hardly an effective way to instill any sort of money management skills for someone that has none. Especially the way it is taught in school being a theory of exercises, and very rarely even touch reality of “real world money management problems”….

You’re taking this for granted because you were either raised with money management skills or you had significant exposure to it from someone else.

WRTO the 6 states…It was the number out of one of the included articles, though it was dated back to 2005/6… I think there was another article floating around dating back to 2010 that indicated it getting worse, especially with the education cuts. Correction the number is higher. most offer some sort of basic economics, but few offer personal finance as a curriculum.

A Step Backwards in Spreading Financial Literacy

“Meanwhile, states that require a personal finance class fell to 14 from 15.”

[spdrun]

Regardless, it is taught in some US places and political correctness doesn’t come into it.

[Coronita]

[quote=spdrun]Regardless, it is taught in some US places and political correctness doesn’t come into it.[/quote]

A Step Backwards in Spreading Financial Literacy

14 states.

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