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[scaredyclassic]

re; the adopted issue. I have no doubt that women would be more pained by a week-long separation from their adopted OR birthed kid than the adoptive father or birth father. didn’t mean to slight adopted moms. i would say they would be equally nutty as birth mothers over child absences or fighting over visitation. no offense to adopted moms and apologies!

[CA renter]

[quote=JustLurking]CA Renter –

I have two children – a biological child and an adopted child. I can say unequivocally that there is NO difference in my feelings for my children. To say that women have a special bond with children BECAUSE they gave birth is incredibly insulting to women who adopt children. The maternal feelings are identical.

I find many of your posts on this topic to be extremely judgemental. Anyone who has chosen a different life path than you is wrong, or at least less right than you are. As a working mother, I find flip remarks like “stay home to raise your own children” offensive. I do raise my own children. And I work. Despite what you say, the two things are NOT mutually exclusive. Perhaps for you they are, but do not assume that everyone is like you. I do not judge you for your choices. Do not judge me.[/quote]

Absolutely no offense meant to adoptive moms. There are multiple adoptions in my own family, and I have many friends who were adopted and others who are adoptive parents. Please understand that **women who adopt** are more likely to feel equally about their adoptive or biological children. That still doesn’t mean that all or most mothers feel the same way. If they did, there would not be a multi-billion dollar fertility industry, and women would not subject themselves to VERY expensive, intrusive and risky procedures just to have a biological baby.

Yes, most women do indeed feel differently about their own biological children BECAUSE they gave birth to those children. The birth mother of your adopted child will always have a special place in her heart and life specifically because she gave birth to that baby — even if she never saw the baby after it was born. I’ve known a few women who gave their babies up for adoption, and they say that not a single day goes by when they don’t think about those babies and how they are doing in life. That does not in any way take away from those who feel differently and who have big enough hearts to love biological and adopted children equally.

As to the “Mommy Wars,” I’ll just leave that to the parenting blogs. There are people with very strong feelings on both sides, and it’s a very subjective topic. IMHO, there is no right or wrong, just different opinions.

Please know that I am here to read about the opinions of others, and to share different opinions. We are learning from each other and hopefully, we can all expand our perspectives about various topics — including real estate. 😉 I am sorry if my posts offended you.

BTW, under no circumstances was I judging you or anybody else. You and I might have different opinions about certain things, but I never intend for people to take what I say personally. Likewise, when the marriage/American woman bashers state their case, I never take it personally. We just have different opinions. 😉

[CA renter]

[quote=JustLurking]CA Renter –

I have two children – a biological child and an adopted child. I can say unequivocally that there is NO difference in my feelings for my children. To say that women have a special bond with children BECAUSE they gave birth is incredibly insulting to women who adopt children. The maternal feelings are identical.

I find many of your posts on this topic to be extremely judgemental. Anyone who has chosen a different life path than you is wrong, or at least less right than you are. As a working mother, I find flip remarks like “stay home to raise your own children” offensive. I do raise my own children. And I work. Despite what you say, the two things are NOT mutually exclusive. Perhaps for you they are, but do not assume that everyone is like you. I do not judge you for your choices. Do not judge me.[/quote]

Absolutely no offense meant to adoptive moms. There are multiple adoptions in my own family, and I have many friends who were adopted and others who are adoptive parents. Please understand that **women who adopt** are more likely to feel equally about their adoptive or biological children. That still doesn’t mean that all or most mothers feel the same way. If they did, there would not be a multi-billion dollar fertility industry, and women would not subject themselves to VERY expensive, intrusive and risky procedures just to have a biological baby.

Yes, most women do indeed feel differently about their own biological children BECAUSE they gave birth to those children. The birth mother of your adopted child will always have a special place in her heart and life specifically because she gave birth to that baby — even if she never saw the baby after it was born. I’ve known a few women who gave their babies up for adoption, and they say that not a single day goes by when they don’t think about those babies and how they are doing in life. That does not in any way take away from those who feel differently and who have big enough hearts to love biological and adopted children equally.

As to the “Mommy Wars,” I’ll just leave that to the parenting blogs. There are people with very strong feelings on both sides, and it’s a very subjective topic. IMHO, there is no right or wrong, just different opinions.

Please know that I am here to read about the opinions of others, and to share different opinions. We are learning from each other and hopefully, we can all expand our perspectives about various topics — including real estate. 😉 I am sorry if my posts offended you.

BTW, under no circumstances was I judging you or anybody else. You and I might have different opinions about certain things, but I never intend for people to take what I say personally. Likewise, when the marriage/American woman bashers state their case, I never take it personally. We just have different opinions. 😉

[CA renter]

[quote=JustLurking]CA Renter –

I have two children – a biological child and an adopted child. I can say unequivocally that there is NO difference in my feelings for my children. To say that women have a special bond with children BECAUSE they gave birth is incredibly insulting to women who adopt children. The maternal feelings are identical.

I find many of your posts on this topic to be extremely judgemental. Anyone who has chosen a different life path than you is wrong, or at least less right than you are. As a working mother, I find flip remarks like “stay home to raise your own children” offensive. I do raise my own children. And I work. Despite what you say, the two things are NOT mutually exclusive. Perhaps for you they are, but do not assume that everyone is like you. I do not judge you for your choices. Do not judge me.[/quote]

Absolutely no offense meant to adoptive moms. There are multiple adoptions in my own family, and I have many friends who were adopted and others who are adoptive parents. Please understand that **women who adopt** are more likely to feel equally about their adoptive or biological children. That still doesn’t mean that all or most mothers feel the same way. If they did, there would not be a multi-billion dollar fertility industry, and women would not subject themselves to VERY expensive, intrusive and risky procedures just to have a biological baby.

Yes, most women do indeed feel differently about their own biological children BECAUSE they gave birth to those children. The birth mother of your adopted child will always have a special place in her heart and life specifically because she gave birth to that baby — even if she never saw the baby after it was born. I’ve known a few women who gave their babies up for adoption, and they say that not a single day goes by when they don’t think about those babies and how they are doing in life. That does not in any way take away from those who feel differently and who have big enough hearts to love biological and adopted children equally.

As to the “Mommy Wars,” I’ll just leave that to the parenting blogs. There are people with very strong feelings on both sides, and it’s a very subjective topic. IMHO, there is no right or wrong, just different opinions.

Please know that I am here to read about the opinions of others, and to share different opinions. We are learning from each other and hopefully, we can all expand our perspectives about various topics — including real estate. 😉 I am sorry if my posts offended you.

BTW, under no circumstances was I judging you or anybody else. You and I might have different opinions about certain things, but I never intend for people to take what I say personally. Likewise, when the marriage/American woman bashers state their case, I never take it personally. We just have different opinions. 😉

[CA renter]

[quote=JustLurking]CA Renter –

I have two children – a biological child and an adopted child. I can say unequivocally that there is NO difference in my feelings for my children. To say that women have a special bond with children BECAUSE they gave birth is incredibly insulting to women who adopt children. The maternal feelings are identical.

I find many of your posts on this topic to be extremely judgemental. Anyone who has chosen a different life path than you is wrong, or at least less right than you are. As a working mother, I find flip remarks like “stay home to raise your own children” offensive. I do raise my own children. And I work. Despite what you say, the two things are NOT mutually exclusive. Perhaps for you they are, but do not assume that everyone is like you. I do not judge you for your choices. Do not judge me.[/quote]

Absolutely no offense meant to adoptive moms. There are multiple adoptions in my own family, and I have many friends who were adopted and others who are adoptive parents. Please understand that **women who adopt** are more likely to feel equally about their adoptive or biological children. That still doesn’t mean that all or most mothers feel the same way. If they did, there would not be a multi-billion dollar fertility industry, and women would not subject themselves to VERY expensive, intrusive and risky procedures just to have a biological baby.

Yes, most women do indeed feel differently about their own biological children BECAUSE they gave birth to those children. The birth mother of your adopted child will always have a special place in her heart and life specifically because she gave birth to that baby — even if she never saw the baby after it was born. I’ve known a few women who gave their babies up for adoption, and they say that not a single day goes by when they don’t think about those babies and how they are doing in life. That does not in any way take away from those who feel differently and who have big enough hearts to love biological and adopted children equally.

As to the “Mommy Wars,” I’ll just leave that to the parenting blogs. There are people with very strong feelings on both sides, and it’s a very subjective topic. IMHO, there is no right or wrong, just different opinions.

Please know that I am here to read about the opinions of others, and to share different opinions. We are learning from each other and hopefully, we can all expand our perspectives about various topics — including real estate. 😉 I am sorry if my posts offended you.

BTW, under no circumstances was I judging you or anybody else. You and I might have different opinions about certain things, but I never intend for people to take what I say personally. Likewise, when the marriage/American woman bashers state their case, I never take it personally. We just have different opinions. 😉

[CA renter]

[quote=JustLurking]CA Renter –

I have two children – a biological child and an adopted child. I can say unequivocally that there is NO difference in my feelings for my children. To say that women have a special bond with children BECAUSE they gave birth is incredibly insulting to women who adopt children. The maternal feelings are identical.

I find many of your posts on this topic to be extremely judgemental. Anyone who has chosen a different life path than you is wrong, or at least less right than you are. As a working mother, I find flip remarks like “stay home to raise your own children” offensive. I do raise my own children. And I work. Despite what you say, the two things are NOT mutually exclusive. Perhaps for you they are, but do not assume that everyone is like you. I do not judge you for your choices. Do not judge me.[/quote]

Absolutely no offense meant to adoptive moms. There are multiple adoptions in my own family, and I have many friends who were adopted and others who are adoptive parents. Please understand that **women who adopt** are more likely to feel equally about their adoptive or biological children. That still doesn’t mean that all or most mothers feel the same way. If they did, there would not be a multi-billion dollar fertility industry, and women would not subject themselves to VERY expensive, intrusive and risky procedures just to have a biological baby.

Yes, most women do indeed feel differently about their own biological children BECAUSE they gave birth to those children. The birth mother of your adopted child will always have a special place in her heart and life specifically because she gave birth to that baby — even if she never saw the baby after it was born. I’ve known a few women who gave their babies up for adoption, and they say that not a single day goes by when they don’t think about those babies and how they are doing in life. That does not in any way take away from those who feel differently and who have big enough hearts to love biological and adopted children equally.

As to the “Mommy Wars,” I’ll just leave that to the parenting blogs. There are people with very strong feelings on both sides, and it’s a very subjective topic. IMHO, there is no right or wrong, just different opinions.

Please know that I am here to read about the opinions of others, and to share different opinions. We are learning from each other and hopefully, we can all expand our perspectives about various topics — including real estate. 😉 I am sorry if my posts offended you.

BTW, under no circumstances was I judging you or anybody else. You and I might have different opinions about certain things, but I never intend for people to take what I say personally. Likewise, when the marriage/American woman bashers state their case, I never take it personally. We just have different opinions. 😉

[Coronita]

[quote=scaredycat]re; the adopted issue. I have no doubt that women would be more pained by a week-long separation from their adopted OR birthed kid than the adoptive father or birth father. didn’t mean to slight adopted moms. i would say they would be equally nutty as birth mothers over child absences or fighting over visitation. no offense to adopted moms and apologies![/quote]

I call bullshit on that one. The thing that pisses me off the most about my wife is she can go through a week or two without calling my daughter when she is away, while me hearing my daughter say “where’s mommy” all the time, while I can’t stand being away from my daughter more than a day. When I’m not around, I try to call my daughter everyday, and the thing that hurts the most is when she says, “daddy, come home” and for whatever reason I can’t. That said, if I had to pick between my wife or my daughter, my wife, parents, or anyone else for that matter, my daughter would win every single time. Relationships are touch and go, and there are times when I’m am totally totally totally pissed at my spouse and vice versa, BUT, no matter what a shitty day I had, I always enjoy seeing my daughter smile. And frankly, she’s the only one that at times I ever listen too, being stubborn me that I am. I don’t know why some folks say that mothers care more about their kid that fathers. My wife was the one who said she would never be a stay at home mom under any circumstances. Without wanting to outwardly admit it, I would the one first to drop everything for her. There are times we both come home from work late, and the funny thing is *she* is the one that goes sits on the couch, props own a newspaper and does the un,hun,unhun, ya ya ya think that the stereotypical man does after a hard days work. I’m the one that talks, reads, interacts with my daughter from 6pm-10pm before her bedtime and then continues working from 11 to the wee mornings. Yeah, I don’t want to hear about moms having it tough frankly. Any parent just does what’s necessary for their kid. period…

[Coronita]

[quote=scaredycat]re; the adopted issue. I have no doubt that women would be more pained by a week-long separation from their adopted OR birthed kid than the adoptive father or birth father. didn’t mean to slight adopted moms. i would say they would be equally nutty as birth mothers over child absences or fighting over visitation. no offense to adopted moms and apologies![/quote]

I call bullshit on that one. The thing that pisses me off the most about my wife is she can go through a week or two without calling my daughter when she is away, while me hearing my daughter say “where’s mommy” all the time, while I can’t stand being away from my daughter more than a day. When I’m not around, I try to call my daughter everyday, and the thing that hurts the most is when she says, “daddy, come home” and for whatever reason I can’t. That said, if I had to pick between my wife or my daughter, my wife, parents, or anyone else for that matter, my daughter would win every single time. Relationships are touch and go, and there are times when I’m am totally totally totally pissed at my spouse and vice versa, BUT, no matter what a shitty day I had, I always enjoy seeing my daughter smile. And frankly, she’s the only one that at times I ever listen too, being stubborn me that I am. I don’t know why some folks say that mothers care more about their kid that fathers. My wife was the one who said she would never be a stay at home mom under any circumstances. Without wanting to outwardly admit it, I would the one first to drop everything for her. There are times we both come home from work late, and the funny thing is *she* is the one that goes sits on the couch, props own a newspaper and does the un,hun,unhun, ya ya ya think that the stereotypical man does after a hard days work. I’m the one that talks, reads, interacts with my daughter from 6pm-10pm before her bedtime and then continues working from 11 to the wee mornings. Yeah, I don’t want to hear about moms having it tough frankly. Any parent just does what’s necessary for their kid. period…

[Coronita]

[quote=scaredycat]re; the adopted issue. I have no doubt that women would be more pained by a week-long separation from their adopted OR birthed kid than the adoptive father or birth father. didn’t mean to slight adopted moms. i would say they would be equally nutty as birth mothers over child absences or fighting over visitation. no offense to adopted moms and apologies![/quote]

I call bullshit on that one. The thing that pisses me off the most about my wife is she can go through a week or two without calling my daughter when she is away, while me hearing my daughter say “where’s mommy” all the time, while I can’t stand being away from my daughter more than a day. When I’m not around, I try to call my daughter everyday, and the thing that hurts the most is when she says, “daddy, come home” and for whatever reason I can’t. That said, if I had to pick between my wife or my daughter, my wife, parents, or anyone else for that matter, my daughter would win every single time. Relationships are touch and go, and there are times when I’m am totally totally totally pissed at my spouse and vice versa, BUT, no matter what a shitty day I had, I always enjoy seeing my daughter smile. And frankly, she’s the only one that at times I ever listen too, being stubborn me that I am. I don’t know why some folks say that mothers care more about their kid that fathers. My wife was the one who said she would never be a stay at home mom under any circumstances. Without wanting to outwardly admit it, I would the one first to drop everything for her. There are times we both come home from work late, and the funny thing is *she* is the one that goes sits on the couch, props own a newspaper and does the un,hun,unhun, ya ya ya think that the stereotypical man does after a hard days work. I’m the one that talks, reads, interacts with my daughter from 6pm-10pm before her bedtime and then continues working from 11 to the wee mornings. Yeah, I don’t want to hear about moms having it tough frankly. Any parent just does what’s necessary for their kid. period…

[Coronita]

[quote=scaredycat]re; the adopted issue. I have no doubt that women would be more pained by a week-long separation from their adopted OR birthed kid than the adoptive father or birth father. didn’t mean to slight adopted moms. i would say they would be equally nutty as birth mothers over child absences or fighting over visitation. no offense to adopted moms and apologies![/quote]

I call bullshit on that one. The thing that pisses me off the most about my wife is she can go through a week or two without calling my daughter when she is away, while me hearing my daughter say “where’s mommy” all the time, while I can’t stand being away from my daughter more than a day. When I’m not around, I try to call my daughter everyday, and the thing that hurts the most is when she says, “daddy, come home” and for whatever reason I can’t. That said, if I had to pick between my wife or my daughter, my wife, parents, or anyone else for that matter, my daughter would win every single time. Relationships are touch and go, and there are times when I’m am totally totally totally pissed at my spouse and vice versa, BUT, no matter what a shitty day I had, I always enjoy seeing my daughter smile. And frankly, she’s the only one that at times I ever listen too, being stubborn me that I am. I don’t know why some folks say that mothers care more about their kid that fathers. My wife was the one who said she would never be a stay at home mom under any circumstances. Without wanting to outwardly admit it, I would the one first to drop everything for her. There are times we both come home from work late, and the funny thing is *she* is the one that goes sits on the couch, props own a newspaper and does the un,hun,unhun, ya ya ya think that the stereotypical man does after a hard days work. I’m the one that talks, reads, interacts with my daughter from 6pm-10pm before her bedtime and then continues working from 11 to the wee mornings. Yeah, I don’t want to hear about moms having it tough frankly. Any parent just does what’s necessary for their kid. period…

[Coronita]

[quote=scaredycat]re; the adopted issue. I have no doubt that women would be more pained by a week-long separation from their adopted OR birthed kid than the adoptive father or birth father. didn’t mean to slight adopted moms. i would say they would be equally nutty as birth mothers over child absences or fighting over visitation. no offense to adopted moms and apologies![/quote]

I call bullshit on that one. The thing that pisses me off the most about my wife is she can go through a week or two without calling my daughter when she is away, while me hearing my daughter say “where’s mommy” all the time, while I can’t stand being away from my daughter more than a day. When I’m not around, I try to call my daughter everyday, and the thing that hurts the most is when she says, “daddy, come home” and for whatever reason I can’t. That said, if I had to pick between my wife or my daughter, my wife, parents, or anyone else for that matter, my daughter would win every single time. Relationships are touch and go, and there are times when I’m am totally totally totally pissed at my spouse and vice versa, BUT, no matter what a shitty day I had, I always enjoy seeing my daughter smile. And frankly, she’s the only one that at times I ever listen too, being stubborn me that I am. I don’t know why some folks say that mothers care more about their kid that fathers. My wife was the one who said she would never be a stay at home mom under any circumstances. Without wanting to outwardly admit it, I would the one first to drop everything for her. There are times we both come home from work late, and the funny thing is *she* is the one that goes sits on the couch, props own a newspaper and does the un,hun,unhun, ya ya ya think that the stereotypical man does after a hard days work. I’m the one that talks, reads, interacts with my daughter from 6pm-10pm before her bedtime and then continues working from 11 to the wee mornings. Yeah, I don’t want to hear about moms having it tough frankly. Any parent just does what’s necessary for their kid. period…

[scaredyclassic]

well, ok. maybe it’s just me. I like to be away from them for a few days, but unfortunately, I almost never am. I go years sometimes without being away for a day, not by choice, that’s just the way things are. I’m probably projecting. I like having them around too. Maybe it’s all socially induced. but women at least seem like they have to act like they’re more troubled when they’re away from their kids (except flu’s wife). Also, i drink only at home with them, never at bars. So they do save me a lot of money that way. Cheap drinking partners, i never have to buy them anything because they’re too young to drink.

[scaredyclassic]

well, ok. maybe it’s just me. I like to be away from them for a few days, but unfortunately, I almost never am. I go years sometimes without being away for a day, not by choice, that’s just the way things are. I’m probably projecting. I like having them around too. Maybe it’s all socially induced. but women at least seem like they have to act like they’re more troubled when they’re away from their kids (except flu’s wife). Also, i drink only at home with them, never at bars. So they do save me a lot of money that way. Cheap drinking partners, i never have to buy them anything because they’re too young to drink.

[scaredyclassic]

well, ok. maybe it’s just me. I like to be away from them for a few days, but unfortunately, I almost never am. I go years sometimes without being away for a day, not by choice, that’s just the way things are. I’m probably projecting. I like having them around too. Maybe it’s all socially induced. but women at least seem like they have to act like they’re more troubled when they’re away from their kids (except flu’s wife). Also, i drink only at home with them, never at bars. So they do save me a lot of money that way. Cheap drinking partners, i never have to buy them anything because they’re too young to drink.

[scaredyclassic]

well, ok. maybe it’s just me. I like to be away from them for a few days, but unfortunately, I almost never am. I go years sometimes without being away for a day, not by choice, that’s just the way things are. I’m probably projecting. I like having them around too. Maybe it’s all socially induced. but women at least seem like they have to act like they’re more troubled when they’re away from their kids (except flu’s wife). Also, i drink only at home with them, never at bars. So they do save me a lot of money that way. Cheap drinking partners, i never have to buy them anything because they’re too young to drink.

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