OT – Illegal’s, Arizona, and Obama…

[briansd1]

[quote=captcha] E.g. your recently legalized illegals will be able to petition for their illegally present parents and further clog the funnel.
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There is not enough cake (ever) for everyone and EB’s are frustrated with pro-illegals the same way you are frustrated with deadbeats.
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As I said before, this is not an either or situation. Legalization of unauthorized immigrants does not impair the prospects for employment-based immigrants.

Family based immigration does not take away from employment-based applications.

The SKIL Act is part of comprehensive immigration reform. But immigration reform is being held up.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/july-dec10/immigration_07-01.html

Democracts have addressed the needs of employment based immigrants.
http://www.cio.com/article/197100/Bill_Would_Double_Cap_on_H_1B_Visas

Look and see who is most voraciously anti-immigrant (legal or otherwise).
http://americancitizensunited.cloverpad.org/Default.aspx?pageId=466644

Immigration advocates tend to focus on unauthorized immigrants because they are the most vulnerable. Stephen Colbert said it well.

In contract, consider that H1B workers in America are legal, do have rights, good jobs and good salaries. Yes, they have to wait a long time for a Green Card.

Yes, the immigration process is difficult for H1B. Focus on the process. Vilifying unauthorized immigrants does nothing to improve employment-based immigration.

If you look at the big picture, almost all immigration is employment-based and employer-sponsored. As far as I’m concerned, unauthorized immigrants who install drywall or pick strawberries for cash are also employment-based immigrants.

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As I correctly assumed the examples I delivered made no difference. The one example you managed to ferret (H1B cap increase) does nothing to address the needs of employment based immigrants. Au contraire, it increases the inflow without adjusting the outflow.

You can try to use the pointers I gave you and some of your compassion to understand why EB immigrants feel hostages of Democrats and their pro-illegal agenda.

Or you can keep trying to blur the difference between those who broke no law, make decent salaries, pay decent taxes and on average contribute more than they consume and the lawbreakers (or as you might prefer ‘unauthorized workers’).

[all]

As I correctly assumed the examples I delivered made no difference. The one example you managed to ferret (H1B cap increase) does nothing to address the needs of employment based immigrants. Au contraire, it increases the inflow without adjusting the outflow.

You can try to use the pointers I gave you and some of your compassion to understand why EB immigrants feel hostages of Democrats and their pro-illegal agenda.

Or you can keep trying to blur the difference between those who broke no law, make decent salaries, pay decent taxes and on average contribute more than they consume and the lawbreakers (or as you might prefer ‘unauthorized workers’).

[all]

As I correctly assumed the examples I delivered made no difference. The one example you managed to ferret (H1B cap increase) does nothing to address the needs of employment based immigrants. Au contraire, it increases the inflow without adjusting the outflow.

You can try to use the pointers I gave you and some of your compassion to understand why EB immigrants feel hostages of Democrats and their pro-illegal agenda.

Or you can keep trying to blur the difference between those who broke no law, make decent salaries, pay decent taxes and on average contribute more than they consume and the lawbreakers (or as you might prefer ‘unauthorized workers’).

[all]

As I correctly assumed the examples I delivered made no difference. The one example you managed to ferret (H1B cap increase) does nothing to address the needs of employment based immigrants. Au contraire, it increases the inflow without adjusting the outflow.

You can try to use the pointers I gave you and some of your compassion to understand why EB immigrants feel hostages of Democrats and their pro-illegal agenda.

Or you can keep trying to blur the difference between those who broke no law, make decent salaries, pay decent taxes and on average contribute more than they consume and the lawbreakers (or as you might prefer ‘unauthorized workers’).

[all]

As I correctly assumed the examples I delivered made no difference. The one example you managed to ferret (H1B cap increase) does nothing to address the needs of employment based immigrants. Au contraire, it increases the inflow without adjusting the outflow.

You can try to use the pointers I gave you and some of your compassion to understand why EB immigrants feel hostages of Democrats and their pro-illegal agenda.

Or you can keep trying to blur the difference between those who broke no law, make decent salaries, pay decent taxes and on average contribute more than they consume and the lawbreakers (or as you might prefer ‘unauthorized workers’).

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[quote=briansd1] As far as I’m concerned, unauthorized immigrants who install drywall or pick strawberries for cash are also employment-based immigrants.[/quote]

So you support the right of employers to undercut their competition by hiring illegal workers and paying them under-the-table?

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[quote=briansd1] As far as I’m concerned, unauthorized immigrants who install drywall or pick strawberries for cash are also employment-based immigrants.[/quote]

So you support the right of employers to undercut their competition by hiring illegal workers and paying them under-the-table?

[blahblahblah]

[quote=briansd1] As far as I’m concerned, unauthorized immigrants who install drywall or pick strawberries for cash are also employment-based immigrants.[/quote]

So you support the right of employers to undercut their competition by hiring illegal workers and paying them under-the-table?

[blahblahblah]

[quote=briansd1] As far as I’m concerned, unauthorized immigrants who install drywall or pick strawberries for cash are also employment-based immigrants.[/quote]

So you support the right of employers to undercut their competition by hiring illegal workers and paying them under-the-table?

[blahblahblah]

[quote=briansd1] As far as I’m concerned, unauthorized immigrants who install drywall or pick strawberries for cash are also employment-based immigrants.[/quote]

So you support the right of employers to undercut their competition by hiring illegal workers and paying them under-the-table?

[briansd1]

[quote=CONCHO][quote=briansd1] As far as I’m concerned, unauthorized immigrants who install drywall or pick strawberries for cash are also employment-based immigrants.[/quote]

So you support the right of employers to undercut their competition by hiring illegal workers and paying them under-the-table?[/quote]

No. Employers have so such right. But the reality is that it’s happening.

If we legalize unauthorized immigrants, they will come out of the shadows. Legal immigrants are less likely to be abused and underpaid by employers.

Employers who break the law should be dealt with on the employer side.

[briansd1]

[quote=CONCHO][quote=briansd1] As far as I’m concerned, unauthorized immigrants who install drywall or pick strawberries for cash are also employment-based immigrants.[/quote]

So you support the right of employers to undercut their competition by hiring illegal workers and paying them under-the-table?[/quote]

No. Employers have so such right. But the reality is that it’s happening.

If we legalize unauthorized immigrants, they will come out of the shadows. Legal immigrants are less likely to be abused and underpaid by employers.

Employers who break the law should be dealt with on the employer side.

[briansd1]

[quote=CONCHO][quote=briansd1] As far as I’m concerned, unauthorized immigrants who install drywall or pick strawberries for cash are also employment-based immigrants.[/quote]

So you support the right of employers to undercut their competition by hiring illegal workers and paying them under-the-table?[/quote]

No. Employers have so such right. But the reality is that it’s happening.

If we legalize unauthorized immigrants, they will come out of the shadows. Legal immigrants are less likely to be abused and underpaid by employers.

Employers who break the law should be dealt with on the employer side.

[briansd1]

[quote=CONCHO][quote=briansd1] As far as I’m concerned, unauthorized immigrants who install drywall or pick strawberries for cash are also employment-based immigrants.[/quote]

So you support the right of employers to undercut their competition by hiring illegal workers and paying them under-the-table?[/quote]

No. Employers have so such right. But the reality is that it’s happening.

If we legalize unauthorized immigrants, they will come out of the shadows. Legal immigrants are less likely to be abused and underpaid by employers.

Employers who break the law should be dealt with on the employer side.

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