One Paseo Vote

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=flyer]

Affordability is another issue, and I expect San Diego will become less and less affordable for more and more people as time goes on.[/quote]

And how will people’s kids grow up to live and work in San Diego if employers can’t expand and new residents can’t find housing?

If you want your kids to move to Dallas, then continue to make San Diego expensive. I don’t mean your very own kids, because you’ve planned for your heirs already, but what about people’s kids in general?

For example, a lot of people who lived in West LA or The Valley decades ago see their kids move to Oregon, Colorado, Texas,… San Diego if they’re lucky. Or even Temecula or Riverside are 2 hours away to visit family.

[flyer]

I understand all of that FIH, but the “buildable” land available and other factors may continue to cause San Diego to become less and less affordable. I’m just stating what many “in the know” clearly see coming. Don’t shoot the messenger.

[The-Shoveler]

IMO there is a huge amount of buildable Land in SD county,
(a lot of it not coastal true) but buildable none the less,

Seems to me even in SD city boundaries there is quite a bit left.

it may need re-zoning however.

I know it will never happen, but if camp pendleton ever closed that would be what 20-miles of coast line?

Even close to Downtown, there are quite a few area’s that it would make sense to be redeveloped in to much higher density at some point when the cost/rewards made sense.

That’s what is happening in LA downtown.

[flyer]

Hope you’re right, TS, but that’s just not what I’m hearing from developers, and/or others. They see a “priced out” scenario in the future–even factoring in “crashes.” Again, only time will tell.

[The-Shoveler]

I believe that going to be true for most coastal area’s (priced out), been that way in L.A. for 20 or so years.

but it did not stop the inland area’s from being built. (and still being built).

[spdrun]

Clearly, what’s needed is a good tsunami to reset pricing for a while 🙂

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=The-Shoveler]I believe that going to be true for most coastal area’s (priced out), been that way in L.A. for 20 or so years.

but it did not stop the inland area’s from being built. (and still being built).[/quote]

Do you want your family and kids to live within 1/2 drive (including traffic) or do you want them to move 2 hours away, or more with traffic?

[The-Shoveler]

What if say you lose your Job in QCOM and have to work in Carlsbad for one of it’s new rivals ?

it’s all relative, Not “ALL” the Jobs will be close to CV forever LOL.

It’s not a central Gov Yet LOL

[FlyerInHi]

For starters we could make easy and cheaper for Qualcomm’s rivals to get variances to put up new office towers nearby. We could also make easier for builders to put up new apartments and condos. Barriers to construction increase costs for everyone.

[The-Shoveler]

You did get the part where we are not quite a Central planning Government like China yet right ?

I worry sometimes.

[FlyerInHi]

Sounds to me like master plans, zoning and prohibition against building is central planning.

Why should a government central plan design 40 years ago dictate the setbacks and building height on a lot today?

[The-Shoveler]

Anyway sort of too late for that , Carlsbad already has a large industrial park, even oceanside has one on the planning books as well.

[FlyerInHi]

So live by what the central planners of yesteryears dictated how we should live? Or decide what best fits the people and maket conditions of today?

If San Diego provides better alternatives, companies won’t locate in Carlsbad or Oceanside.

I say let the markets decide what is built and get the bureaucrats out of the way.

[The-Shoveler]

I am a pragmatic optimist,

I don’t think it is realistic to think “ALL” industry of merit will forever be only in close proximity to CV.

And That Carlsbad (or any city) must forever be just a second class retirement community and bedroom burb.

That’s just not realistic.

[FlyerInHi]

Has anyone been to Playa Vista. I was just there yesterday. They bill themselves as Silicon Valley South. Nice new design compared to the standard Spanish/Tuscan.

That kind of density would work in the tech region of San Diego — Carmel Valley/UTC/Sorrento/Mira Mesa, along the 56 to Penasquitos.

http://playavista.com/live-here/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playa_Vista,_Los_Angeles

Zip is 90094 if you want to look it up for fun.

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