Off Topic “When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.”

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Wouldn’t it be cool if we had a president who didn’t believe in any religion? It really seems silly to me all this stuff about “in god we trust”. It’s a great way to get away with doing whatever you want. When I was in high school we were having a discussion about a guy who killed someone because god told him to. Everyone in the class thought he must be crazy, but one girl who was fairly religious. She said what if god did tell him to kill. Who were we to say he was wrong for killing another human being. It was one of those eye opening moments. Oh by the way “GOD “ told me to let everyone know to stop using him as an excuse to get away with stupid shit.
But to try to fault Obama for use of religion in politics is a stretch. All of the politicians have been using it for as long as I can remember. Unfortunately it still wins elections. I look forward to the day that I don’t have to say “one nation under god”, when the president doesn’t end every speech with “god bless”, when our money no longer has “in god we trust on it, and when the influence of religion no longer taints politics. I do not think I will live to see that day. Maybe someday my great great grandchildren will. God I hope so.

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[quote=tc]Wouldn’t it be cool if we had a president who didn’t believe in any religion? It really seems silly to me all this stuff about “in god we trust”. It’s a great way to get away with doing whatever you want. When I was in high school we were having a discussion about a guy who killed someone because god told him to. Everyone in the class thought he must be crazy, but one girl who was fairly religious. She said what if god did tell him to kill. Who were we to say he was wrong for killing another human being. It was one of those eye opening moments. Oh by the way “GOD “ told me to let everyone know to stop using him as an excuse to get away with stupid shit.
But to try to fault Obama for use of religion in politics is a stretch. All of the politicians have been using it for as long as I can remember. Unfortunately it still wins elections. I look forward to the day that I don’t have to say “one nation under god”, when the president doesn’t end every speech with “god bless”, when our money no longer has “in god we trust on it, and when the influence of religion no longer taints politics. I do not think I will live to see that day. Maybe someday my great great grandchildren will. God I hope so.
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You could ask old Russians who remember Stalin or old Germans who remember Hitler or sons or daughters of those that remember them.

Maybe they could tell you what is like to be lead by someone who feels that the church is the enemy of the state.

John

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[quote=tc]Wouldn’t it be cool if we had a president who didn’t believe in any religion? It really seems silly to me all this stuff about “in god we trust”. It’s a great way to get away with doing whatever you want. When I was in high school we were having a discussion about a guy who killed someone because god told him to. Everyone in the class thought he must be crazy, but one girl who was fairly religious. She said what if god did tell him to kill. Who were we to say he was wrong for killing another human being. It was one of those eye opening moments. Oh by the way “GOD “ told me to let everyone know to stop using him as an excuse to get away with stupid shit.
But to try to fault Obama for use of religion in politics is a stretch. All of the politicians have been using it for as long as I can remember. Unfortunately it still wins elections. I look forward to the day that I don’t have to say “one nation under god”, when the president doesn’t end every speech with “god bless”, when our money no longer has “in god we trust on it, and when the influence of religion no longer taints politics. I do not think I will live to see that day. Maybe someday my great great grandchildren will. God I hope so.
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You could ask old Russians who remember Stalin or old Germans who remember Hitler or sons or daughters of those that remember them.

Maybe they could tell you what is like to be lead by someone who feels that the church is the enemy of the state.

John

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[quote=tc]Wouldn’t it be cool if we had a president who didn’t believe in any religion? It really seems silly to me all this stuff about “in god we trust”. It’s a great way to get away with doing whatever you want. When I was in high school we were having a discussion about a guy who killed someone because god told him to. Everyone in the class thought he must be crazy, but one girl who was fairly religious. She said what if god did tell him to kill. Who were we to say he was wrong for killing another human being. It was one of those eye opening moments. Oh by the way “GOD “ told me to let everyone know to stop using him as an excuse to get away with stupid shit.
But to try to fault Obama for use of religion in politics is a stretch. All of the politicians have been using it for as long as I can remember. Unfortunately it still wins elections. I look forward to the day that I don’t have to say “one nation under god”, when the president doesn’t end every speech with “god bless”, when our money no longer has “in god we trust on it, and when the influence of religion no longer taints politics. I do not think I will live to see that day. Maybe someday my great great grandchildren will. God I hope so.
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You could ask old Russians who remember Stalin or old Germans who remember Hitler or sons or daughters of those that remember them.

Maybe they could tell you what is like to be lead by someone who feels that the church is the enemy of the state.

John

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[quote=tc]Wouldn’t it be cool if we had a president who didn’t believe in any religion? It really seems silly to me all this stuff about “in god we trust”. It’s a great way to get away with doing whatever you want. When I was in high school we were having a discussion about a guy who killed someone because god told him to. Everyone in the class thought he must be crazy, but one girl who was fairly religious. She said what if god did tell him to kill. Who were we to say he was wrong for killing another human being. It was one of those eye opening moments. Oh by the way “GOD “ told me to let everyone know to stop using him as an excuse to get away with stupid shit.
But to try to fault Obama for use of religion in politics is a stretch. All of the politicians have been using it for as long as I can remember. Unfortunately it still wins elections. I look forward to the day that I don’t have to say “one nation under god”, when the president doesn’t end every speech with “god bless”, when our money no longer has “in god we trust on it, and when the influence of religion no longer taints politics. I do not think I will live to see that day. Maybe someday my great great grandchildren will. God I hope so.
[/quote]

You could ask old Russians who remember Stalin or old Germans who remember Hitler or sons or daughters of those that remember them.

Maybe they could tell you what is like to be lead by someone who feels that the church is the enemy of the state.

John

[jficquette]

[quote=tc]Wouldn’t it be cool if we had a president who didn’t believe in any religion? It really seems silly to me all this stuff about “in god we trust”. It’s a great way to get away with doing whatever you want. When I was in high school we were having a discussion about a guy who killed someone because god told him to. Everyone in the class thought he must be crazy, but one girl who was fairly religious. She said what if god did tell him to kill. Who were we to say he was wrong for killing another human being. It was one of those eye opening moments. Oh by the way “GOD “ told me to let everyone know to stop using him as an excuse to get away with stupid shit.
But to try to fault Obama for use of religion in politics is a stretch. All of the politicians have been using it for as long as I can remember. Unfortunately it still wins elections. I look forward to the day that I don’t have to say “one nation under god”, when the president doesn’t end every speech with “god bless”, when our money no longer has “in god we trust on it, and when the influence of religion no longer taints politics. I do not think I will live to see that day. Maybe someday my great great grandchildren will. God I hope so.
[/quote]

You could ask old Russians who remember Stalin or old Germans who remember Hitler or sons or daughters of those that remember them.

Maybe they could tell you what is like to be lead by someone who feels that the church is the enemy of the state.

John

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I ate a can of beans last night and let me tell you my wind was indeed righteous…

Seriously though, what’s wrong with being Muslim? Besides, fcukquitte, I thought you were sticking with the “Obama isn’t a US citizen” argument?.

[Portlock]

I ate a can of beans last night and let me tell you my wind was indeed righteous…

Seriously though, what’s wrong with being Muslim? Besides, fcukquitte, I thought you were sticking with the “Obama isn’t a US citizen” argument?.

[Portlock]

I ate a can of beans last night and let me tell you my wind was indeed righteous…

Seriously though, what’s wrong with being Muslim? Besides, fcukquitte, I thought you were sticking with the “Obama isn’t a US citizen” argument?.

[Portlock]

I ate a can of beans last night and let me tell you my wind was indeed righteous…

Seriously though, what’s wrong with being Muslim? Besides, fcukquitte, I thought you were sticking with the “Obama isn’t a US citizen” argument?.

[Portlock]

I ate a can of beans last night and let me tell you my wind was indeed righteous…

Seriously though, what’s wrong with being Muslim? Besides, fcukquitte, I thought you were sticking with the “Obama isn’t a US citizen” argument?.

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“I feel like we got a righteous wind at our backs here.”

Is this the part that rings alarm bells for you?

Seems like the usual rally speech material. Fascism may be a bit of a stretch.

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Hell yeah for a guy to say God is behind him and he is coming to save you is scary.

Don’t you think?? But I guess its ok if a democrat saids it right?

John

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Dude, when isn’t some sort of devine selection invoked in this sort of situation? This is a theme that has been repeated throughout history…good and bad. Didn’t W declare God was on our side or some such thing when rallying the citizenry into taking on the invasion of Iraq?

I just think it’s a little too early to be playing “Tin Foil Hat”.

You do realize that he spent a several years of his childhood in Indonesia, which has a large Muslim population. I’m sure he’s heard expressions such as, “righteous wind” on more than one occasion. He used an expression that he’s familiar with to express himself. We all do that on a daily basis.

Why is everything a Democrat vs. Republican arguement? How about we just worry about what’s good for the country. Both parties have been running the country into the ground. Why is it so hard to see that?

We’ve arrived at this point in history together; Democrat, Republican or other. Finger pointing and divisiveness isn’t going to get us anywhere.

Obama talks about change. If he is elected, will he truely bring change? Only time will tell. He’s only one cog in the machine but, he does seem to posses the ability to bring people of varying backgrounds together. That seems to be a very important attribute for some applying for this particular job.

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No one outside the left and MSM think Obama is even qualified to be Prez much less a person to bring people together.

Its not the governments role to bring people together anyway. People bring people together.

John[/quote]

I’m curious what you believe that role of President, leader is?

I’ve always thought of a leader to be someone that can take a step back from the situation at hand and make a decision based on facts and to affect human behavior so as to accomplish a mission.

I’ll leave the religion out of it because, I don’t particularly care.
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The Constitution defines the role of President and being our Daddy ain’t one of the duties assigned.

John

[jficquette]

[quote=creechrr][quote=jficquette][quote=creechrr][quote=jficquette][quote=creechrr]

“I feel like we got a righteous wind at our backs here.”

Is this the part that rings alarm bells for you?

Seems like the usual rally speech material. Fascism may be a bit of a stretch.

[/quote]

Hell yeah for a guy to say God is behind him and he is coming to save you is scary.

Don’t you think?? But I guess its ok if a democrat saids it right?

John

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Dude, when isn’t some sort of devine selection invoked in this sort of situation? This is a theme that has been repeated throughout history…good and bad. Didn’t W declare God was on our side or some such thing when rallying the citizenry into taking on the invasion of Iraq?

I just think it’s a little too early to be playing “Tin Foil Hat”.

You do realize that he spent a several years of his childhood in Indonesia, which has a large Muslim population. I’m sure he’s heard expressions such as, “righteous wind” on more than one occasion. He used an expression that he’s familiar with to express himself. We all do that on a daily basis.

Why is everything a Democrat vs. Republican arguement? How about we just worry about what’s good for the country. Both parties have been running the country into the ground. Why is it so hard to see that?

We’ve arrived at this point in history together; Democrat, Republican or other. Finger pointing and divisiveness isn’t going to get us anywhere.

Obama talks about change. If he is elected, will he truely bring change? Only time will tell. He’s only one cog in the machine but, he does seem to posses the ability to bring people of varying backgrounds together. That seems to be a very important attribute for some applying for this particular job.

[/quote]

No one outside the left and MSM think Obama is even qualified to be Prez much less a person to bring people together.

Its not the governments role to bring people together anyway. People bring people together.

John[/quote]

I’m curious what you believe that role of President, leader is?

I’ve always thought of a leader to be someone that can take a step back from the situation at hand and make a decision based on facts and to affect human behavior so as to accomplish a mission.

I’ll leave the religion out of it because, I don’t particularly care.
[/quote]

The Constitution defines the role of President and being our Daddy ain’t one of the duties assigned.

John

[jficquette]

[quote=creechrr][quote=jficquette][quote=creechrr][quote=jficquette][quote=creechrr]

“I feel like we got a righteous wind at our backs here.”

Is this the part that rings alarm bells for you?

Seems like the usual rally speech material. Fascism may be a bit of a stretch.

[/quote]

Hell yeah for a guy to say God is behind him and he is coming to save you is scary.

Don’t you think?? But I guess its ok if a democrat saids it right?

John

[/quote]

Dude, when isn’t some sort of devine selection invoked in this sort of situation? This is a theme that has been repeated throughout history…good and bad. Didn’t W declare God was on our side or some such thing when rallying the citizenry into taking on the invasion of Iraq?

I just think it’s a little too early to be playing “Tin Foil Hat”.

You do realize that he spent a several years of his childhood in Indonesia, which has a large Muslim population. I’m sure he’s heard expressions such as, “righteous wind” on more than one occasion. He used an expression that he’s familiar with to express himself. We all do that on a daily basis.

Why is everything a Democrat vs. Republican arguement? How about we just worry about what’s good for the country. Both parties have been running the country into the ground. Why is it so hard to see that?

We’ve arrived at this point in history together; Democrat, Republican or other. Finger pointing and divisiveness isn’t going to get us anywhere.

Obama talks about change. If he is elected, will he truely bring change? Only time will tell. He’s only one cog in the machine but, he does seem to posses the ability to bring people of varying backgrounds together. That seems to be a very important attribute for some applying for this particular job.

[/quote]

No one outside the left and MSM think Obama is even qualified to be Prez much less a person to bring people together.

Its not the governments role to bring people together anyway. People bring people together.

John[/quote]

I’m curious what you believe that role of President, leader is?

I’ve always thought of a leader to be someone that can take a step back from the situation at hand and make a decision based on facts and to affect human behavior so as to accomplish a mission.

I’ll leave the religion out of it because, I don’t particularly care.
[/quote]

The Constitution defines the role of President and being our Daddy ain’t one of the duties assigned.

John

[jficquette]

[quote=creechrr][quote=jficquette][quote=creechrr][quote=jficquette][quote=creechrr]

“I feel like we got a righteous wind at our backs here.”

Is this the part that rings alarm bells for you?

Seems like the usual rally speech material. Fascism may be a bit of a stretch.

[/quote]

Hell yeah for a guy to say God is behind him and he is coming to save you is scary.

Don’t you think?? But I guess its ok if a democrat saids it right?

John

[/quote]

Dude, when isn’t some sort of devine selection invoked in this sort of situation? This is a theme that has been repeated throughout history…good and bad. Didn’t W declare God was on our side or some such thing when rallying the citizenry into taking on the invasion of Iraq?

I just think it’s a little too early to be playing “Tin Foil Hat”.

You do realize that he spent a several years of his childhood in Indonesia, which has a large Muslim population. I’m sure he’s heard expressions such as, “righteous wind” on more than one occasion. He used an expression that he’s familiar with to express himself. We all do that on a daily basis.

Why is everything a Democrat vs. Republican arguement? How about we just worry about what’s good for the country. Both parties have been running the country into the ground. Why is it so hard to see that?

We’ve arrived at this point in history together; Democrat, Republican or other. Finger pointing and divisiveness isn’t going to get us anywhere.

Obama talks about change. If he is elected, will he truely bring change? Only time will tell. He’s only one cog in the machine but, he does seem to posses the ability to bring people of varying backgrounds together. That seems to be a very important attribute for some applying for this particular job.

[/quote]

No one outside the left and MSM think Obama is even qualified to be Prez much less a person to bring people together.

Its not the governments role to bring people together anyway. People bring people together.

John[/quote]

I’m curious what you believe that role of President, leader is?

I’ve always thought of a leader to be someone that can take a step back from the situation at hand and make a decision based on facts and to affect human behavior so as to accomplish a mission.

I’ll leave the religion out of it because, I don’t particularly care.
[/quote]

The Constitution defines the role of President and being our Daddy ain’t one of the duties assigned.

John

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