Off Topic “When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.”

[Arraya]

Lots of conspiracy theories are bogus, but rejecting them all just because of how they’re framed is not wise. The way it is today, a gang of conspirators could get away with anything: they just need to start an Internet rumor of what they just did, framing it as a conspiracy theory, and anyone who tries to talk about it will be ignored.

While it would be difficult to prove, this story fits the modus operandi of propagandists, who are masters at spreading false claims of scandals and then discrediting those spreading false claims once they get some traction among dissidents.

Or

Like, in 2004, CBS anchorman Dan Rather was baited with doctored memos of Bush going AWOL in the National Guard – the scandal was real but the memos were not, so Rather became the issue, not W.

I personally could care less if he is not eligible, it wouldn’t surprise me a bit. Not in a “he is a manchurian candidate from the muslim world” way more “All mainstream candidates are preselected by the real powers in charge” way and if he is their man they could make him a citizen. The ironic thing is the vitriol in which people argue over which of the two corporate stooge candidates would do a better job than the other, when the differences between the two is paper thing besides packaging. You people are fooling yourselves.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

arraya: This is tangential even for me, but did you ever see the movie “Capricorn One”? It’s a little dated, granted, but a real good one when it comes to conspiracy theories and the Big Lie.

Just curious.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

arraya: This is tangential even for me, but did you ever see the movie “Capricorn One”? It’s a little dated, granted, but a real good one when it comes to conspiracy theories and the Big Lie.

Just curious.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

arraya: This is tangential even for me, but did you ever see the movie “Capricorn One”? It’s a little dated, granted, but a real good one when it comes to conspiracy theories and the Big Lie.

Just curious.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

arraya: This is tangential even for me, but did you ever see the movie “Capricorn One”? It’s a little dated, granted, but a real good one when it comes to conspiracy theories and the Big Lie.

Just curious.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

arraya: This is tangential even for me, but did you ever see the movie “Capricorn One”? It’s a little dated, granted, but a real good one when it comes to conspiracy theories and the Big Lie.

Just curious.

[Zeitgeist]

Hey Libs, how’s that change thing working for you now?

“He was almost ruminating over the need for statutory change to the laws so that we can deal with individuals who we can’t charge and detain,” one participant said. “We’ve known this is on the horizon for many years, but we were able to hold it off with George Bush. The idea that we might find ourselves fighting with the Obama administration over these powers is really stunning.”

“Mr. Obama told them he was thinking about “the long game” — how to establish a legal system that would endure for future presidents. He raised the issue of preventive detention himself, but made clear that he had not made a decision on it. Several senior White House officials did not respond to requests for comment on the outsiders’ accounts.”

Later Terror Link Cited for 1 in 7 Freed Detainees
By ELISABETH BUMILLER
Published: May 20, 2009
WASHINGTON — An unreleased Pentagon report concludes that about one in seven of the 534 prisoners already transferred abroad from the detention center in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, are engaged in terrorism or militant activity, according to administration officials.
The conclusion could strengthen the arguments of critics who have warned against the transfer or release of any more detainees as part of President Obama’s plan to shut down the prison by January. Past Pentagon reports on Guantánamo recidivism have been met with skepticism from civil liberties groups and criticized for their lack of detail.

[Zeitgeist]

Hey Libs, how’s that change thing working for you now?

“He was almost ruminating over the need for statutory change to the laws so that we can deal with individuals who we can’t charge and detain,” one participant said. “We’ve known this is on the horizon for many years, but we were able to hold it off with George Bush. The idea that we might find ourselves fighting with the Obama administration over these powers is really stunning.”

“Mr. Obama told them he was thinking about “the long game” — how to establish a legal system that would endure for future presidents. He raised the issue of preventive detention himself, but made clear that he had not made a decision on it. Several senior White House officials did not respond to requests for comment on the outsiders’ accounts.”

Later Terror Link Cited for 1 in 7 Freed Detainees
By ELISABETH BUMILLER
Published: May 20, 2009
WASHINGTON — An unreleased Pentagon report concludes that about one in seven of the 534 prisoners already transferred abroad from the detention center in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, are engaged in terrorism or militant activity, according to administration officials.
The conclusion could strengthen the arguments of critics who have warned against the transfer or release of any more detainees as part of President Obama’s plan to shut down the prison by January. Past Pentagon reports on Guantánamo recidivism have been met with skepticism from civil liberties groups and criticized for their lack of detail.

[Zeitgeist]

Hey Libs, how’s that change thing working for you now?

“He was almost ruminating over the need for statutory change to the laws so that we can deal with individuals who we can’t charge and detain,” one participant said. “We’ve known this is on the horizon for many years, but we were able to hold it off with George Bush. The idea that we might find ourselves fighting with the Obama administration over these powers is really stunning.”

“Mr. Obama told them he was thinking about “the long game” — how to establish a legal system that would endure for future presidents. He raised the issue of preventive detention himself, but made clear that he had not made a decision on it. Several senior White House officials did not respond to requests for comment on the outsiders’ accounts.”

Later Terror Link Cited for 1 in 7 Freed Detainees
By ELISABETH BUMILLER
Published: May 20, 2009
WASHINGTON — An unreleased Pentagon report concludes that about one in seven of the 534 prisoners already transferred abroad from the detention center in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, are engaged in terrorism or militant activity, according to administration officials.
The conclusion could strengthen the arguments of critics who have warned against the transfer or release of any more detainees as part of President Obama’s plan to shut down the prison by January. Past Pentagon reports on Guantánamo recidivism have been met with skepticism from civil liberties groups and criticized for their lack of detail.

[Zeitgeist]

Hey Libs, how’s that change thing working for you now?

“He was almost ruminating over the need for statutory change to the laws so that we can deal with individuals who we can’t charge and detain,” one participant said. “We’ve known this is on the horizon for many years, but we were able to hold it off with George Bush. The idea that we might find ourselves fighting with the Obama administration over these powers is really stunning.”

“Mr. Obama told them he was thinking about “the long game” — how to establish a legal system that would endure for future presidents. He raised the issue of preventive detention himself, but made clear that he had not made a decision on it. Several senior White House officials did not respond to requests for comment on the outsiders’ accounts.”

Later Terror Link Cited for 1 in 7 Freed Detainees
By ELISABETH BUMILLER
Published: May 20, 2009
WASHINGTON — An unreleased Pentagon report concludes that about one in seven of the 534 prisoners already transferred abroad from the detention center in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, are engaged in terrorism or militant activity, according to administration officials.
The conclusion could strengthen the arguments of critics who have warned against the transfer or release of any more detainees as part of President Obama’s plan to shut down the prison by January. Past Pentagon reports on Guantánamo recidivism have been met with skepticism from civil liberties groups and criticized for their lack of detail.

[Zeitgeist]

Hey Libs, how’s that change thing working for you now?

“He was almost ruminating over the need for statutory change to the laws so that we can deal with individuals who we can’t charge and detain,” one participant said. “We’ve known this is on the horizon for many years, but we were able to hold it off with George Bush. The idea that we might find ourselves fighting with the Obama administration over these powers is really stunning.”

“Mr. Obama told them he was thinking about “the long game” — how to establish a legal system that would endure for future presidents. He raised the issue of preventive detention himself, but made clear that he had not made a decision on it. Several senior White House officials did not respond to requests for comment on the outsiders’ accounts.”

Later Terror Link Cited for 1 in 7 Freed Detainees
By ELISABETH BUMILLER
Published: May 20, 2009
WASHINGTON — An unreleased Pentagon report concludes that about one in seven of the 534 prisoners already transferred abroad from the detention center in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, are engaged in terrorism or militant activity, according to administration officials.
The conclusion could strengthen the arguments of critics who have warned against the transfer or release of any more detainees as part of President Obama’s plan to shut down the prison by January. Past Pentagon reports on Guantánamo recidivism have been met with skepticism from civil liberties groups and criticized for their lack of detail.

[PadreBrian]

Dubya, did one hecka of a job instilling fascism. I remember the time when it was “un-American” to even question Dubya.

[PadreBrian]

Dubya, did one hecka of a job instilling fascism. I remember the time when it was “un-American” to even question Dubya.

[PadreBrian]

Dubya, did one hecka of a job instilling fascism. I remember the time when it was “un-American” to even question Dubya.

[PadreBrian]

Dubya, did one hecka of a job instilling fascism. I remember the time when it was “un-American” to even question Dubya.

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