Off Topic “When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.”

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“I feel like we got a righteous wind at our backs here.”

Is this the part that rings alarm bells for you?

Seems like the usual rally speech material. Fascism may be a bit of a stretch.

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Hell yeah for a guy to say God is behind him and he is coming to save you is scary.

Don’t you think?? But I guess its ok if a democrat saids it right?

John

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Dude, when isn’t some sort of devine selection invoked in this sort of situation? This is a theme that has been repeated throughout history…good and bad. Didn’t W declare God was on our side or some such thing when rallying the citizenry into taking on the invasion of Iraq?

I just think it’s a little too early to be playing “Tin Foil Hat”.

You do realize that he spent a several years of his childhood in Indonesia, which has a large Muslim population. I’m sure he’s heard expressions such as, “righteous wind” on more than one occasion. He used an expression that he’s familiar with to express himself. We all do that on a daily basis.

Why is everything a Democrat vs. Republican arguement? How about we just worry about what’s good for the country. Both parties have been running the country into the ground. Why is it so hard to see that?

We’ve arrived at this point in history together; Democrat, Republican or other. Finger pointing and divisiveness isn’t going to get us anywhere.

Obama talks about change. If he is elected, will he truely bring change? Only time will tell. He’s only one cog in the machine but, he does seem to posses the ability to bring people of varying backgrounds together. That seems to be a very important attribute for some applying for this particular job.

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No one outside the left and MSM think Obama is even qualified to be Prez much less a person to bring people together.

Its not the governments role to bring people together anyway. People bring people together.

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I’m curious what you believe that role of President, leader is?

I’ve always thought of a leader to be someone that can take a step back from the situation at hand and make a decision based on facts and to affect human behavior so as to accomplish a mission.

I’ll leave the religion out of it because, I don’t particularly care.
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The Constitution defines the role of President and being our Daddy ain’t one of the duties assigned.

John

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Maybe they could tell you what is like to be lead by someone who feels that the church is the enemy of the state.

Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.” -Adolf Hitler

My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.

-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

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Maybe they could tell you what is like to be lead by someone who feels that the church is the enemy of the state.

Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.” -Adolf Hitler

My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.

-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

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Maybe they could tell you what is like to be lead by someone who feels that the church is the enemy of the state.

Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.” -Adolf Hitler

My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.

-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

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Maybe they could tell you what is like to be lead by someone who feels that the church is the enemy of the state.

Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.” -Adolf Hitler

My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.

-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

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Maybe they could tell you what is like to be lead by someone who feels that the church is the enemy of the state.

Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.” -Adolf Hitler

My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.

-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

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Arraya,

Thanks for he information. Its always fascinating to study historical figures since history repeats itself.

I found these other quotes attributed to him. It just shows what a con artist he was.

John

“Christianity is an invention of sick brains,” Adolf Hitler, 13 December 1941.

“So it’s not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death,” Adolf Hitler, 14 October 1941.

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Arraya,

Thanks for he information. Its always fascinating to study historical figures since history repeats itself.

I found these other quotes attributed to him. It just shows what a con artist he was.

John

“Christianity is an invention of sick brains,” Adolf Hitler, 13 December 1941.

“So it’s not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death,” Adolf Hitler, 14 October 1941.

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Arraya,

Thanks for he information. Its always fascinating to study historical figures since history repeats itself.

I found these other quotes attributed to him. It just shows what a con artist he was.

John

“Christianity is an invention of sick brains,” Adolf Hitler, 13 December 1941.

“So it’s not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death,” Adolf Hitler, 14 October 1941.

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Arraya,

Thanks for he information. Its always fascinating to study historical figures since history repeats itself.

I found these other quotes attributed to him. It just shows what a con artist he was.

John

“Christianity is an invention of sick brains,” Adolf Hitler, 13 December 1941.

“So it’s not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death,” Adolf Hitler, 14 October 1941.

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Arraya,

Thanks for he information. Its always fascinating to study historical figures since history repeats itself.

I found these other quotes attributed to him. It just shows what a con artist he was.

John

“Christianity is an invention of sick brains,” Adolf Hitler, 13 December 1941.

“So it’s not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death,” Adolf Hitler, 14 October 1941.

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You could ask old Russians who remember Stalin or old Germans who remember Hitler or sons or daughters of those that remember them.

Maybe they could tell you what is like to be lead by someone who feels that the church is the enemy of the state.

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Sounds like you are more concerned about his religious interests more than would like to admit.

Must revisit Rev. Wright…

The man is a Christian. Whatever that means. Like any other group Christians come in many varying flavors. Just as much evil is done in the name of Christ as is done in the name of Mohammed. Pretty much a wash there.

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You could ask old Russians who remember Stalin or old Germans who remember Hitler or sons or daughters of those that remember them.

Maybe they could tell you what is like to be lead by someone who feels that the church is the enemy of the state.

John[/quote]

Sounds like you are more concerned about his religious interests more than would like to admit.

Must revisit Rev. Wright…

The man is a Christian. Whatever that means. Like any other group Christians come in many varying flavors. Just as much evil is done in the name of Christ as is done in the name of Mohammed. Pretty much a wash there.

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You could ask old Russians who remember Stalin or old Germans who remember Hitler or sons or daughters of those that remember them.

Maybe they could tell you what is like to be lead by someone who feels that the church is the enemy of the state.

John[/quote]

Sounds like you are more concerned about his religious interests more than would like to admit.

Must revisit Rev. Wright…

The man is a Christian. Whatever that means. Like any other group Christians come in many varying flavors. Just as much evil is done in the name of Christ as is done in the name of Mohammed. Pretty much a wash there.

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[quote=jficquette]

You could ask old Russians who remember Stalin or old Germans who remember Hitler or sons or daughters of those that remember them.

Maybe they could tell you what is like to be lead by someone who feels that the church is the enemy of the state.

John[/quote]

Sounds like you are more concerned about his religious interests more than would like to admit.

Must revisit Rev. Wright…

The man is a Christian. Whatever that means. Like any other group Christians come in many varying flavors. Just as much evil is done in the name of Christ as is done in the name of Mohammed. Pretty much a wash there.

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