Off Topic: Curious about how others feel about the Georgian/Russian war

[DCRogers]

Some sympathy for the Russians here, to be honest. The Georgians are loco, and the Russians are giving us back the Kosovo lesson [‘dangerous to change sovereign borders’] in spades.

Bush made a mistake encouraging the Georgians to kick up sand in a rough neighborhood, esp. with an oil pipeline nearby.

That said, Russian lessons tend to avoid subtlety… best they call it victory and leave Georgia proper.

(You’re right that the outer provinces won’t be back. Kosovo payback. Locals hated the Georgians, if it’s any consolation…)

[Eugene]

(You’re right that the outer provinces won’t be back. Kosovo payback. Locals hated the Georgians, if it’s any consolation…)

“Locals” have been intermarrying with Georgians for centuries. They have much in common with Georgians and very little in common with Russians. It took 15 years of not-so-subtle support of nationalistic movements and giving away of Russian passports, plus the fact that Georgia is much poorer than Russia (no oil or gas of its own), to buy them.

I think that much of it is Russians in general are very insecure re: their role in the world. There is an amazing amount of antiamericanism mixed with envy in public consciousness. A good psychiatrist could have a field day with that. Peter Schiff would make lots of money if he moved to Moscow and tried to peddle his book there. Everyone just loves to hate America because they are richer and more powerful. (But, of course, no one would admit that)

United States is a superpower, so they can bomb and invade foreign countries at their whim and get away with it (Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan). If Russia can pull off something like that, it makes Russians feel proud about themselves.

[Eugene]

(You’re right that the outer provinces won’t be back. Kosovo payback. Locals hated the Georgians, if it’s any consolation…)

“Locals” have been intermarrying with Georgians for centuries. They have much in common with Georgians and very little in common with Russians. It took 15 years of not-so-subtle support of nationalistic movements and giving away of Russian passports, plus the fact that Georgia is much poorer than Russia (no oil or gas of its own), to buy them.

I think that much of it is Russians in general are very insecure re: their role in the world. There is an amazing amount of antiamericanism mixed with envy in public consciousness. A good psychiatrist could have a field day with that. Peter Schiff would make lots of money if he moved to Moscow and tried to peddle his book there. Everyone just loves to hate America because they are richer and more powerful. (But, of course, no one would admit that)

United States is a superpower, so they can bomb and invade foreign countries at their whim and get away with it (Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan). If Russia can pull off something like that, it makes Russians feel proud about themselves.

[Eugene]

(You’re right that the outer provinces won’t be back. Kosovo payback. Locals hated the Georgians, if it’s any consolation…)

“Locals” have been intermarrying with Georgians for centuries. They have much in common with Georgians and very little in common with Russians. It took 15 years of not-so-subtle support of nationalistic movements and giving away of Russian passports, plus the fact that Georgia is much poorer than Russia (no oil or gas of its own), to buy them.

I think that much of it is Russians in general are very insecure re: their role in the world. There is an amazing amount of antiamericanism mixed with envy in public consciousness. A good psychiatrist could have a field day with that. Peter Schiff would make lots of money if he moved to Moscow and tried to peddle his book there. Everyone just loves to hate America because they are richer and more powerful. (But, of course, no one would admit that)

United States is a superpower, so they can bomb and invade foreign countries at their whim and get away with it (Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan). If Russia can pull off something like that, it makes Russians feel proud about themselves.

[Eugene]

(You’re right that the outer provinces won’t be back. Kosovo payback. Locals hated the Georgians, if it’s any consolation…)

“Locals” have been intermarrying with Georgians for centuries. They have much in common with Georgians and very little in common with Russians. It took 15 years of not-so-subtle support of nationalistic movements and giving away of Russian passports, plus the fact that Georgia is much poorer than Russia (no oil or gas of its own), to buy them.

I think that much of it is Russians in general are very insecure re: their role in the world. There is an amazing amount of antiamericanism mixed with envy in public consciousness. A good psychiatrist could have a field day with that. Peter Schiff would make lots of money if he moved to Moscow and tried to peddle his book there. Everyone just loves to hate America because they are richer and more powerful. (But, of course, no one would admit that)

United States is a superpower, so they can bomb and invade foreign countries at their whim and get away with it (Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan). If Russia can pull off something like that, it makes Russians feel proud about themselves.

[Eugene]

(You’re right that the outer provinces won’t be back. Kosovo payback. Locals hated the Georgians, if it’s any consolation…)

“Locals” have been intermarrying with Georgians for centuries. They have much in common with Georgians and very little in common with Russians. It took 15 years of not-so-subtle support of nationalistic movements and giving away of Russian passports, plus the fact that Georgia is much poorer than Russia (no oil or gas of its own), to buy them.

I think that much of it is Russians in general are very insecure re: their role in the world. There is an amazing amount of antiamericanism mixed with envy in public consciousness. A good psychiatrist could have a field day with that. Peter Schiff would make lots of money if he moved to Moscow and tried to peddle his book there. Everyone just loves to hate America because they are richer and more powerful. (But, of course, no one would admit that)

United States is a superpower, so they can bomb and invade foreign countries at their whim and get away with it (Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan). If Russia can pull off something like that, it makes Russians feel proud about themselves.

[Eugene]

(You’re right that the outer provinces won’t be back. Kosovo payback. Locals hated the Georgians, if it’s any consolation…)

“Locals” have been intermarrying with Georgians for centuries. They have much in common with Georgians and very little in common with Russians. It took 15 years of not-so-subtle support of nationalistic movements and giving away of Russian passports, plus the fact that Georgia is much poorer than Russia (no oil or gas of its own), to buy them.

I think that much of it is Russians in general are very insecure re: their role in the world. There is an amazing amount of antiamericanism mixed with envy in public consciousness. A good psychiatrist could have a field day with that. Peter Schiff would make lots of money if he moved to Moscow and tried to peddle his book there. Everyone just loves to hate America because they are richer and more powerful. (But, of course, no one would admit that)

United States is a superpower, so they can bomb and invade foreign countries at their whim and get away with it (Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan). If Russia can pull off something like that, it makes Russians feel proud about themselves.

[SD Realtor]

I would say you nailed it Veritas. Note the near miss on the pipeline the other day. (actually I think it was a perfect shot as opposed to a near miss)

[SD Realtor]

I would say you nailed it Veritas. Note the near miss on the pipeline the other day. (actually I think it was a perfect shot as opposed to a near miss)

[SD Realtor]

I would say you nailed it Veritas. Note the near miss on the pipeline the other day. (actually I think it was a perfect shot as opposed to a near miss)

[SD Realtor]

I would say you nailed it Veritas. Note the near miss on the pipeline the other day. (actually I think it was a perfect shot as opposed to a near miss)

[SD Realtor]

I would say you nailed it Veritas. Note the near miss on the pipeline the other day. (actually I think it was a perfect shot as opposed to a near miss)

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Sympathy for the Russians? Interesting. Putin has a game plan and is executing it flawlessly. Between cowing the Europeans with an overt lesson in power projection and using the “soft power” persuasiveness of controlling a large chunk of their energy supplies, he has managed to stop the eastern thrust of NATO and simultaneously restore Russian primacy in Eastern Europe.

You have to wonder how the Latvians, Lithuanians and Estonians feel about this latest “Soviet” jaunt. Or the Poles, for that matter.

Cold War redux indeed. Cowboys and Cossacks all over again.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Sympathy for the Russians? Interesting. Putin has a game plan and is executing it flawlessly. Between cowing the Europeans with an overt lesson in power projection and using the “soft power” persuasiveness of controlling a large chunk of their energy supplies, he has managed to stop the eastern thrust of NATO and simultaneously restore Russian primacy in Eastern Europe.

You have to wonder how the Latvians, Lithuanians and Estonians feel about this latest “Soviet” jaunt. Or the Poles, for that matter.

Cold War redux indeed. Cowboys and Cossacks all over again.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Sympathy for the Russians? Interesting. Putin has a game plan and is executing it flawlessly. Between cowing the Europeans with an overt lesson in power projection and using the “soft power” persuasiveness of controlling a large chunk of their energy supplies, he has managed to stop the eastern thrust of NATO and simultaneously restore Russian primacy in Eastern Europe.

You have to wonder how the Latvians, Lithuanians and Estonians feel about this latest “Soviet” jaunt. Or the Poles, for that matter.

Cold War redux indeed. Cowboys and Cossacks all over again.

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