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February 18, 2010 at 5:22 PM #515561February 18, 2010 at 5:34 PM #514676Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipant
I think that will be hard to hide.
Can only take so many people living in their car’s on your street before you say hey they were not here last year.
February 18, 2010 at 5:34 PM #514818Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipantI think that will be hard to hide.
Can only take so many people living in their car’s on your street before you say hey they were not here last year.
February 18, 2010 at 5:34 PM #515237Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipantI think that will be hard to hide.
Can only take so many people living in their car’s on your street before you say hey they were not here last year.
February 18, 2010 at 5:34 PM #515325Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipantI think that will be hard to hide.
Can only take so many people living in their car’s on your street before you say hey they were not here last year.
February 18, 2010 at 5:34 PM #515570Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipantI think that will be hard to hide.
Can only take so many people living in their car’s on your street before you say hey they were not here last year.
February 18, 2010 at 6:20 PM #514697daveljParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Wow. Have we turned into a nation of hysterical little bitches, or what? So, one dude flying a single engined plane into the IRS building in Austin, TX now presages a wave of kamikaze attacks across America?
Please. America needs to take a deep breath, untwist our little knickers and grow up. This kind of pathetic whelping is exactly why we have this childish dependence on Big Government to protect us from all the evils of the big, bad world.
Read a little US history and realize that this kind of thing is nothing new and has been going on since the birth of the republic (Shays’ Rebellion anyone?).[/quote]
Agreed…
I’ll preface my comments by saying that I could turn out to be completely wrong about Sr. Stack, but… I’m going to speculate that his “I-have-zero-blame-for-how-my-life-went-wrong-and-the-IRS-and-corrupt-elite-made-me-do-it” argument isn’t going to hold up well under closer scrutiny as we move forward. Again, I could be wrong – and I’ll admit it if it turns out that this guy was obviously screwed by Uncle Sam (and everyone else) – but for the moment my money’s on the revelation that he’s a bitter screwball who always felt victimized and used the current crisis as an opportunity to go postal while appearing to be a patriot. I seriously doubt he’ll be covered in glory (or sympathy) once all the facts come out. But, again, I could be wrong.
February 18, 2010 at 6:20 PM #514841daveljParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Wow. Have we turned into a nation of hysterical little bitches, or what? So, one dude flying a single engined plane into the IRS building in Austin, TX now presages a wave of kamikaze attacks across America?
Please. America needs to take a deep breath, untwist our little knickers and grow up. This kind of pathetic whelping is exactly why we have this childish dependence on Big Government to protect us from all the evils of the big, bad world.
Read a little US history and realize that this kind of thing is nothing new and has been going on since the birth of the republic (Shays’ Rebellion anyone?).[/quote]
Agreed…
I’ll preface my comments by saying that I could turn out to be completely wrong about Sr. Stack, but… I’m going to speculate that his “I-have-zero-blame-for-how-my-life-went-wrong-and-the-IRS-and-corrupt-elite-made-me-do-it” argument isn’t going to hold up well under closer scrutiny as we move forward. Again, I could be wrong – and I’ll admit it if it turns out that this guy was obviously screwed by Uncle Sam (and everyone else) – but for the moment my money’s on the revelation that he’s a bitter screwball who always felt victimized and used the current crisis as an opportunity to go postal while appearing to be a patriot. I seriously doubt he’ll be covered in glory (or sympathy) once all the facts come out. But, again, I could be wrong.
February 18, 2010 at 6:20 PM #515259daveljParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Wow. Have we turned into a nation of hysterical little bitches, or what? So, one dude flying a single engined plane into the IRS building in Austin, TX now presages a wave of kamikaze attacks across America?
Please. America needs to take a deep breath, untwist our little knickers and grow up. This kind of pathetic whelping is exactly why we have this childish dependence on Big Government to protect us from all the evils of the big, bad world.
Read a little US history and realize that this kind of thing is nothing new and has been going on since the birth of the republic (Shays’ Rebellion anyone?).[/quote]
Agreed…
I’ll preface my comments by saying that I could turn out to be completely wrong about Sr. Stack, but… I’m going to speculate that his “I-have-zero-blame-for-how-my-life-went-wrong-and-the-IRS-and-corrupt-elite-made-me-do-it” argument isn’t going to hold up well under closer scrutiny as we move forward. Again, I could be wrong – and I’ll admit it if it turns out that this guy was obviously screwed by Uncle Sam (and everyone else) – but for the moment my money’s on the revelation that he’s a bitter screwball who always felt victimized and used the current crisis as an opportunity to go postal while appearing to be a patriot. I seriously doubt he’ll be covered in glory (or sympathy) once all the facts come out. But, again, I could be wrong.
February 18, 2010 at 6:20 PM #515348daveljParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Wow. Have we turned into a nation of hysterical little bitches, or what? So, one dude flying a single engined plane into the IRS building in Austin, TX now presages a wave of kamikaze attacks across America?
Please. America needs to take a deep breath, untwist our little knickers and grow up. This kind of pathetic whelping is exactly why we have this childish dependence on Big Government to protect us from all the evils of the big, bad world.
Read a little US history and realize that this kind of thing is nothing new and has been going on since the birth of the republic (Shays’ Rebellion anyone?).[/quote]
Agreed…
I’ll preface my comments by saying that I could turn out to be completely wrong about Sr. Stack, but… I’m going to speculate that his “I-have-zero-blame-for-how-my-life-went-wrong-and-the-IRS-and-corrupt-elite-made-me-do-it” argument isn’t going to hold up well under closer scrutiny as we move forward. Again, I could be wrong – and I’ll admit it if it turns out that this guy was obviously screwed by Uncle Sam (and everyone else) – but for the moment my money’s on the revelation that he’s a bitter screwball who always felt victimized and used the current crisis as an opportunity to go postal while appearing to be a patriot. I seriously doubt he’ll be covered in glory (or sympathy) once all the facts come out. But, again, I could be wrong.
February 18, 2010 at 6:20 PM #515594daveljParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Wow. Have we turned into a nation of hysterical little bitches, or what? So, one dude flying a single engined plane into the IRS building in Austin, TX now presages a wave of kamikaze attacks across America?
Please. America needs to take a deep breath, untwist our little knickers and grow up. This kind of pathetic whelping is exactly why we have this childish dependence on Big Government to protect us from all the evils of the big, bad world.
Read a little US history and realize that this kind of thing is nothing new and has been going on since the birth of the republic (Shays’ Rebellion anyone?).[/quote]
Agreed…
I’ll preface my comments by saying that I could turn out to be completely wrong about Sr. Stack, but… I’m going to speculate that his “I-have-zero-blame-for-how-my-life-went-wrong-and-the-IRS-and-corrupt-elite-made-me-do-it” argument isn’t going to hold up well under closer scrutiny as we move forward. Again, I could be wrong – and I’ll admit it if it turns out that this guy was obviously screwed by Uncle Sam (and everyone else) – but for the moment my money’s on the revelation that he’s a bitter screwball who always felt victimized and used the current crisis as an opportunity to go postal while appearing to be a patriot. I seriously doubt he’ll be covered in glory (or sympathy) once all the facts come out. But, again, I could be wrong.
February 18, 2010 at 7:03 PM #514691ucodegenParticipantI’ve owned a couple of Sigs in my time, but there’s something about a .45 with a 13+1 capacity that just warms the cockles of my evil little heart. Especially when those 14 rounds are 230gr Hydra-Shoks.
What about a .357 SIG for a concealable. The goal on this design was to equal the performace of a 125gr .357 Magnum load. Muzzle vel of the SIG is about 1450fps on a 4 inch barrel, 792Joules energy (highest I have seen for a .45ACP is about 700Joules).
Only problem with the 357SIG is the muzzle flash and noise. The 45 ACP makes a good ‘silenced’ device, hard to do that with the 357SIG
PS: The .357SIG is supposedly standard issue for special agents of the Secret Service. Scary part is that is it also standard issue for the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (I guess they really want the money!)
For a .45 ACP, look at CorBon JHP. Lighter bullet, higher velocity. Penetration is less within human target while delivering almost 50% more shock energy than a HydraShok.
Some tests with .45ACP and .357SIG
http://intrencik.com/357sig.htmFebruary 18, 2010 at 7:03 PM #514833ucodegenParticipantI’ve owned a couple of Sigs in my time, but there’s something about a .45 with a 13+1 capacity that just warms the cockles of my evil little heart. Especially when those 14 rounds are 230gr Hydra-Shoks.
What about a .357 SIG for a concealable. The goal on this design was to equal the performace of a 125gr .357 Magnum load. Muzzle vel of the SIG is about 1450fps on a 4 inch barrel, 792Joules energy (highest I have seen for a .45ACP is about 700Joules).
Only problem with the 357SIG is the muzzle flash and noise. The 45 ACP makes a good ‘silenced’ device, hard to do that with the 357SIG
PS: The .357SIG is supposedly standard issue for special agents of the Secret Service. Scary part is that is it also standard issue for the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (I guess they really want the money!)
For a .45 ACP, look at CorBon JHP. Lighter bullet, higher velocity. Penetration is less within human target while delivering almost 50% more shock energy than a HydraShok.
Some tests with .45ACP and .357SIG
http://intrencik.com/357sig.htmFebruary 18, 2010 at 7:03 PM #515252ucodegenParticipantI’ve owned a couple of Sigs in my time, but there’s something about a .45 with a 13+1 capacity that just warms the cockles of my evil little heart. Especially when those 14 rounds are 230gr Hydra-Shoks.
What about a .357 SIG for a concealable. The goal on this design was to equal the performace of a 125gr .357 Magnum load. Muzzle vel of the SIG is about 1450fps on a 4 inch barrel, 792Joules energy (highest I have seen for a .45ACP is about 700Joules).
Only problem with the 357SIG is the muzzle flash and noise. The 45 ACP makes a good ‘silenced’ device, hard to do that with the 357SIG
PS: The .357SIG is supposedly standard issue for special agents of the Secret Service. Scary part is that is it also standard issue for the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (I guess they really want the money!)
For a .45 ACP, look at CorBon JHP. Lighter bullet, higher velocity. Penetration is less within human target while delivering almost 50% more shock energy than a HydraShok.
Some tests with .45ACP and .357SIG
http://intrencik.com/357sig.htmFebruary 18, 2010 at 7:03 PM #515340ucodegenParticipantI’ve owned a couple of Sigs in my time, but there’s something about a .45 with a 13+1 capacity that just warms the cockles of my evil little heart. Especially when those 14 rounds are 230gr Hydra-Shoks.
What about a .357 SIG for a concealable. The goal on this design was to equal the performace of a 125gr .357 Magnum load. Muzzle vel of the SIG is about 1450fps on a 4 inch barrel, 792Joules energy (highest I have seen for a .45ACP is about 700Joules).
Only problem with the 357SIG is the muzzle flash and noise. The 45 ACP makes a good ‘silenced’ device, hard to do that with the 357SIG
PS: The .357SIG is supposedly standard issue for special agents of the Secret Service. Scary part is that is it also standard issue for the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (I guess they really want the money!)
For a .45 ACP, look at CorBon JHP. Lighter bullet, higher velocity. Penetration is less within human target while delivering almost 50% more shock energy than a HydraShok.
Some tests with .45ACP and .357SIG
http://intrencik.com/357sig.htm -
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