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March 3, 2009 at 1:16 PM #359920March 3, 2009 at 1:25 PM #359392
macromaniac
ParticipantScarlet,
Part of the off shore move was to be able to sustain a faulty business model for a longer time period….and pay all the guys in MI who retire in 30 years, get full benefits and 90% of their salary, and sit on their porches all day or hit the lake for some bass fishing. I am from this area bro and I know these people…on top of this…I worked for GM and saw it all first hand…
The inefficiencies created by the UAW….wow..I could tell you stories that would blow your mind on the waste and abuse of this group over the years and now at the expense of the American tax payer…
March 3, 2009 at 1:25 PM #359692ParticipantScarlet,
Part of the off shore move was to be able to sustain a faulty business model for a longer time period….and pay all the guys in MI who retire in 30 years, get full benefits and 90% of their salary, and sit on their porches all day or hit the lake for some bass fishing. I am from this area bro and I know these people…on top of this…I worked for GM and saw it all first hand…
The inefficiencies created by the UAW….wow..I could tell you stories that would blow your mind on the waste and abuse of this group over the years and now at the expense of the American tax payer…
March 3, 2009 at 1:25 PM #359837ParticipantScarlet,
Part of the off shore move was to be able to sustain a faulty business model for a longer time period….and pay all the guys in MI who retire in 30 years, get full benefits and 90% of their salary, and sit on their porches all day or hit the lake for some bass fishing. I am from this area bro and I know these people…on top of this…I worked for GM and saw it all first hand…
The inefficiencies created by the UAW….wow..I could tell you stories that would blow your mind on the waste and abuse of this group over the years and now at the expense of the American tax payer…
March 3, 2009 at 1:25 PM #359875ParticipantScarlet,
Part of the off shore move was to be able to sustain a faulty business model for a longer time period….and pay all the guys in MI who retire in 30 years, get full benefits and 90% of their salary, and sit on their porches all day or hit the lake for some bass fishing. I am from this area bro and I know these people…on top of this…I worked for GM and saw it all first hand…
The inefficiencies created by the UAW….wow..I could tell you stories that would blow your mind on the waste and abuse of this group over the years and now at the expense of the American tax payer…
March 3, 2009 at 1:25 PM #359978ParticipantScarlet,
Part of the off shore move was to be able to sustain a faulty business model for a longer time period….and pay all the guys in MI who retire in 30 years, get full benefits and 90% of their salary, and sit on their porches all day or hit the lake for some bass fishing. I am from this area bro and I know these people…on top of this…I worked for GM and saw it all first hand…
The inefficiencies created by the UAW….wow..I could tell you stories that would blow your mind on the waste and abuse of this group over the years and now at the expense of the American tax payer…
March 3, 2009 at 1:44 PM #359402
svelteParticipant[quote=macromaniac]This is getting absolutely ridiculous!
What are these people doing with this money? Where is the accountability here? Enough is enough. JUST SAY NO MORE…[/quote]
This is getting ridiculous!
Toyota, Mitsubishi, and Nissan have all asked for their OWN bailouts this week.
Can’t they manage their business?? They should be shut down too!
March 3, 2009 at 1:44 PM #359702svelteParticipant[quote=macromaniac]This is getting absolutely ridiculous!
What are these people doing with this money? Where is the accountability here? Enough is enough. JUST SAY NO MORE…[/quote]
This is getting ridiculous!
Toyota, Mitsubishi, and Nissan have all asked for their OWN bailouts this week.
Can’t they manage their business?? They should be shut down too!
March 3, 2009 at 1:44 PM #359847svelteParticipant[quote=macromaniac]This is getting absolutely ridiculous!
What are these people doing with this money? Where is the accountability here? Enough is enough. JUST SAY NO MORE…[/quote]
This is getting ridiculous!
Toyota, Mitsubishi, and Nissan have all asked for their OWN bailouts this week.
Can’t they manage their business?? They should be shut down too!
March 3, 2009 at 1:44 PM #359885svelteParticipant[quote=macromaniac]This is getting absolutely ridiculous!
What are these people doing with this money? Where is the accountability here? Enough is enough. JUST SAY NO MORE…[/quote]
This is getting ridiculous!
Toyota, Mitsubishi, and Nissan have all asked for their OWN bailouts this week.
Can’t they manage their business?? They should be shut down too!
March 3, 2009 at 1:44 PM #359988svelteParticipant[quote=macromaniac]This is getting absolutely ridiculous!
What are these people doing with this money? Where is the accountability here? Enough is enough. JUST SAY NO MORE…[/quote]
This is getting ridiculous!
Toyota, Mitsubishi, and Nissan have all asked for their OWN bailouts this week.
Can’t they manage their business?? They should be shut down too!
March 3, 2009 at 1:54 PM #359407Rt.66
Participantmacromaniac,
I don’t agree, but the Elite are happy your programming is intact.
Are the UAW workers in Ohio, Tennessee, Indiana, Georgia, Oklahoma etc., lazy good for nothing people too?
Dude when was the last time you drove by a CalTrans job and seen even 1/2 of the guys actually doing anything?
At a construction site?
Care to peak inside the internet surfing world that exists inside every fortune 500 office cubicle building?
I’ve seen those things first hand, does that make me an expert on something?
GM must be doing a few things correctly because in good times they manage to make great cars and trucks and locomotives and even make a profit. You make it sound as if things are so aweful nothing ever gets done.
Huge, exagerated sensationaism is a great tool to put misleading negatives into people’s heads and get them to think the way you need them to.Think about it? How often do you hear a Japanese car driver say something like “GM, oh their cars are ok, I just liked the look of this tiny little Prius better”. Nah, you hear something more like “GM, shit no! Their cars are junk”. Why?
I’ve had bad luck with Japanese cars but I can admit that based on other people’s experiences they are descent cars, just as are VWs, Audis and BMWs. You really cannot buy a truely shitty car on any car lot in the US right now. Every one of them is likely to go 100K with no real problems if you take care of them. Lots of GM cars will make 200k for their owners with no real problems as will lots of Hondas.
March 3, 2009 at 1:54 PM #359707Participantmacromaniac,
I don’t agree, but the Elite are happy your programming is intact.
Are the UAW workers in Ohio, Tennessee, Indiana, Georgia, Oklahoma etc., lazy good for nothing people too?
Dude when was the last time you drove by a CalTrans job and seen even 1/2 of the guys actually doing anything?
At a construction site?
Care to peak inside the internet surfing world that exists inside every fortune 500 office cubicle building?
I’ve seen those things first hand, does that make me an expert on something?
GM must be doing a few things correctly because in good times they manage to make great cars and trucks and locomotives and even make a profit. You make it sound as if things are so aweful nothing ever gets done.
Huge, exagerated sensationaism is a great tool to put misleading negatives into people’s heads and get them to think the way you need them to.Think about it? How often do you hear a Japanese car driver say something like “GM, oh their cars are ok, I just liked the look of this tiny little Prius better”. Nah, you hear something more like “GM, shit no! Their cars are junk”. Why?
I’ve had bad luck with Japanese cars but I can admit that based on other people’s experiences they are descent cars, just as are VWs, Audis and BMWs. You really cannot buy a truely shitty car on any car lot in the US right now. Every one of them is likely to go 100K with no real problems if you take care of them. Lots of GM cars will make 200k for their owners with no real problems as will lots of Hondas.
March 3, 2009 at 1:54 PM #359852Participantmacromaniac,
I don’t agree, but the Elite are happy your programming is intact.
Are the UAW workers in Ohio, Tennessee, Indiana, Georgia, Oklahoma etc., lazy good for nothing people too?
Dude when was the last time you drove by a CalTrans job and seen even 1/2 of the guys actually doing anything?
At a construction site?
Care to peak inside the internet surfing world that exists inside every fortune 500 office cubicle building?
I’ve seen those things first hand, does that make me an expert on something?
GM must be doing a few things correctly because in good times they manage to make great cars and trucks and locomotives and even make a profit. You make it sound as if things are so aweful nothing ever gets done.
Huge, exagerated sensationaism is a great tool to put misleading negatives into people’s heads and get them to think the way you need them to.Think about it? How often do you hear a Japanese car driver say something like “GM, oh their cars are ok, I just liked the look of this tiny little Prius better”. Nah, you hear something more like “GM, shit no! Their cars are junk”. Why?
I’ve had bad luck with Japanese cars but I can admit that based on other people’s experiences they are descent cars, just as are VWs, Audis and BMWs. You really cannot buy a truely shitty car on any car lot in the US right now. Every one of them is likely to go 100K with no real problems if you take care of them. Lots of GM cars will make 200k for their owners with no real problems as will lots of Hondas.
March 3, 2009 at 1:54 PM #359890Participantmacromaniac,
I don’t agree, but the Elite are happy your programming is intact.
Are the UAW workers in Ohio, Tennessee, Indiana, Georgia, Oklahoma etc., lazy good for nothing people too?
Dude when was the last time you drove by a CalTrans job and seen even 1/2 of the guys actually doing anything?
At a construction site?
Care to peak inside the internet surfing world that exists inside every fortune 500 office cubicle building?
I’ve seen those things first hand, does that make me an expert on something?
GM must be doing a few things correctly because in good times they manage to make great cars and trucks and locomotives and even make a profit. You make it sound as if things are so aweful nothing ever gets done.
Huge, exagerated sensationaism is a great tool to put misleading negatives into people’s heads and get them to think the way you need them to.Think about it? How often do you hear a Japanese car driver say something like “GM, oh their cars are ok, I just liked the look of this tiny little Prius better”. Nah, you hear something more like “GM, shit no! Their cars are junk”. Why?
I’ve had bad luck with Japanese cars but I can admit that based on other people’s experiences they are descent cars, just as are VWs, Audis and BMWs. You really cannot buy a truely shitty car on any car lot in the US right now. Every one of them is likely to go 100K with no real problems if you take care of them. Lots of GM cars will make 200k for their owners with no real problems as will lots of Hondas.
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