California Senate Passes Discrimination Bill SCA-5….

[ocrenter]

[img_assist|nid=17932|title=UC admission stat|desc=progressive Hispanic representation on UC campuses.|link=node|align=left|width=400|height=288]

This came from the Chinese language World Journal, which has had in depth coverage of the racist SCA-5.

Judging by the graph, the Whites are progressively declining in their enrollment while the Hispanics are gaining.

If this law passes, it will be used as a tool to affirmatively admit white students in the near future.

[livinincali]

[quote=CA renter]
I am opposed to racial quotas and voted for Prop 209 (and have signed this petition, as well). But if you think this is the biggest threat to your kid’s future, you’re not looking at the big picture. What I’m talking about is the greatest threat to future generations of Americans of all races. Our economic system being manipulated against most working people, and it’s very much by design. If people don’t start to wake up (and soon!), getting into college will be the least of our worries.

I’m interested in hearing what you think is the biggest threat to equality since you seem to think it’s staring us in the face.[/quote]

The supreme court case
Regents of the University of California v. Bakke
confirmed Affirmative Action but explicitly ruled against quotas.

The reality is life is a competition and it’s not a fair competition. Some are blessed with natural abilities and/or luck that allow them to succeed more so than others. The problem is that we constantly have people trying meddle in that evolutionary process in the name of fairness. No person or group of people can successfully create policy that ensures a fair outcome for all. All we can do is put in place a rule of law that applies to everyone equally and let people end up where they end up.

Evolution is smarter than those looking for fairness. Admiral goal but one destined for failure and unintended consequences.

[Coronita]

[quote=ocrenter][img_assist|nid=17932|title=UC admission stat|desc=progressive Hispanic representation on UC campuses.|link=node|align=left|width=400|height=288]

This came from the Chinese language World Journal, which has had in depth coverage of the racist SCA-5.

Judging by the graph, the Whites are progressively declining in their enrollment while the Hispanics are gaining.

If this law passes, it will be used as a tool to affirmatively admit white students in the near future.[/quote]

Cool, then I can have my kid’s last name as “Smith” instead of “Hernandez”….

[ocrenter]

[quote=flu][quote=ocrenter][img_assist|nid=17932|title=UC admission stat|desc=progressive Hispanic representation on UC campuses.|link=node|align=left|width=400|height=288]

This came from the Chinese language World Journal, which has had in depth coverage of the racist SCA-5.

Judging by the graph, the Whites are progressively declining in their enrollment while the Hispanics are gaining.

If this law passes, it will be used as a tool to affirmatively admit white students in the near future.[/quote]

Cool, then I can have my kid’s last name as “Smith” instead of “Hernandez”….[/quote]

haha… I think I’m better off changing over to “Washington” as I woud like to honor this country’s founding father. *wink*

[Coronita]

Well, at least one politician is opposed to this….

XXXXX,

I oppose SCA 5 as it is currently written. I do not support discrimination of any kind and believe that college admissions should be based upon academic and extracurricular factors.

Assemblymember Brian Maienschein

He gets my vote election time…

[an]

[quote=flu]Well, at least one politician is opposed to this….

XXXXX,

I oppose SCA 5 as it is currently written. I do not support discrimination of any kind and believe that college admissions should be based upon academic and extracurricular factors.

Assemblymember Brian Maienschein

He gets my vote election time…[/quote]
He gets mine too. This is what his office has written back to me:

Thank you for taking the time to write in regarding SCA 5.

Assemblymember Maienschein shares your concerns and is currently opposed to this legislation as it is currently written.

Should you have any other questions or concerns, please feel free to contact me.

Thank you,

Lance Witmondt
Office of Assemblymember Brian Maienschein, 77th District
P-(858)675-0077

[an]

[quote=carlsbadworker]I actually think the post is not that ridiculous. Technology is slowing down on subjective level. Planes are flying to more places but we are not travelling any faster than the decade ago. Some NASA exploration is still on-going, but we felt that we have seen all that is to see and traveling outside the solar system is still not a reachable goal. In 1970, Congress promised victory over cancer in six years’ time; four decades later, we are still here. The nuclear industry and its 1954 promise of “electrical energy too cheap to meter” sounds like yesterday’s dream after Fukushima. Energy and batter are holding the progress for new technologies.

But on the other end, people forgot that technology progress is never linear and these “incremental changes” might amount to something in the future. We are closer ever to AI thanks to the steady Moore’s law. That’s making machines equal to human, which stands back on millions years of evolution. And then there is bio-science, we are creating new DNA and organism, a domain that used to belong to God.

It is after all impossible to predict the future progress of the technology. But Internet does unleash a great amount of creativity and collaboration, with time, I think it will eventually amount to something.[/quote]Yes, it is ridiculous to say:
[quote=CA renter]
As for those innovations, while I respect the fact that many people are in love with their iPhones, the main innovation was getting a mobile phone into a person’s hand. That was done well before this past decade. Navigation is cool, but the rest is just “fluff” as far as I’m concerned.[/quote] and

[quote=CA renter]Sorry, but I’m just not seeing the life-altering innovations that you seem to be seeing. Of course, I’ll admit that you are more tech-focused than I am, so you’re more likely to notice the incremental changes that might be a big deal to you (and others like you), but not nearly as impressive to me (and others like myself).[/quote] and lastly but most importantly

[quote=CA renter]I also think you greatly underestimate the extent to which our economy IS zero-sum.[/quote]

Specifically, she thinks

[quote=CA renter]If we compare the “innovations” of the past few years with the innovations from our “glory days” in the 1940s-1960s, we’re not doing so well. If Facebook is what we consider to be innovation and progress, then we’re in serious trouble, IMHO.[/quote]
I can state many more life changing technology today than one can state from the “glory days”.

As to your most, what do you mean technology is slowing down on subjective level? I see technology is rapidly increasing on both subjective and objective level. Just 15 years ago, we were ecstatic that we have 466MHz computer with 128B of RAM and 1GB if hard disk space. Today, even your low end smart phone is have 1GHz+ processor, 512MB of RAM and 16GB if storage, all in a package that’s smaller than the size of a hard drive.

Then there’s the 24/7 connectivity and abundant information at your finger tip today. 15 years ago, if you’re out and you don’t know something, you’re SOL. Today, you can pull out your smart phone, get on Google/Bing and find the answer immediately. 15 years ago, when you go to a restaurant, you’re at the mercy of your luck or your friends’ recommendation. Today, you can hop on Yelp and you can see whether you should go to a particular restaurant or not, and if you should, you can make reservation right then and there on Opentable. 15 years ago, if you’re out and you decide on a whim to go see a particular movie, you’d have to drive to the movie theater, see when the show time is and wait at the movie theater until the show. Today, you can pull out your smart phone, search for the movie you want to see, you’ll get show time for the theaters near you, so you don’t have to go to the theater until it’s closer to the show time. You can also buy tickets on your phone through Fandango. I can go on and on about the drastic improvement to regular people’s daily life due to innovation and technology in the last 15 years, but I’m sure you get the point.

What you’re describing about NASA and cure for Cancer. That basically prove my point. No one can predict which technology will take off. The more engineers we have, the higher likelihood of new sectors get created or speed up of cure for cancer. This is why it’s ridiculous to say it’s a 0 sum game. New innovation create new sectors.

[scaredyclassic]

The greatest technological innovation is the ability to look at funny cat pics and argue with strangers 24/7.

I stole that…

[CA renter]

AN, you could do most of those things 15 years ago with a computer. The on-the-go usefulness is what I mean by navigation (relating your location to local activities and establishments, etc.), and I admit that it’s easier to find the nearest restaurant, etc. when you’re out and about. That IS an improvement. But being able to watch movies, spend time on Facebook, and play games (and we had handheld devices for that years ago, too) on your phone is “fluff” as far as I’m concerned.

In our glory days, we built rocket ships that could take us to the moon, satellites that could beam back pictures of outer space, we eradicated polio, we learned how to mass-produce penicillin, we built highways and more reliable cars/trucks that could carry people and goods across the states and into other countries. We (and others) built the first computers.

Nothing that you’ve mentioned comes anywhere close, IMO. We need to stop focusing on “social media” and phones and start creating things that will result in life-altering improvements and discoveries.

[an]

[quote=CA renter]AN, you could do most of those things 15 years ago with a computer. The on-the-go usefulness is what I mean by navigation (relating your location to local activities and establishments, etc.), and I admit that it’s easier to find the nearest restaurant, etc. when you’re out and about. That IS an improvement. But being able to watch movies, spend time on Facebook, and play games (and we had handheld devices for that years ago, too) on your phone is “fluff” as far as I’m concerned.

In our glory days, we built rocket ships that could take us to the moon, satellites that could beam back pictures of outer space, we eradicated polio, we learned how to mass-produce penicillin, we built highways and more reliable cars/trucks that could carry people and goods across the states and into other countries. We (and others) built the first computers.

Nothing that you’ve mentioned comes anywhere close, IMO. We need to stop focusing on “social media” and phones and start creating things that will result in life-altering improvements and discoveries.[/quote]Mars rover > rocket ships to the moon. Technology to beam back video from mars > satellites to beam back pictures from space. Medicine advancement now is > medical advancement then. Tesla/FCEV, autonomous cars, interconnected car > highway. We have more reliable cars today than before. We have safer cars today than before.

Here’s the top 10 medical advancement in the last decade: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Decade/genome-hormones-top-10-medical-advances-decade/story?id=9356853

Nothing you’ve mentioned comes close to what I’ve mentioned. I haven’t even mentioned about the ability for relatives to be able to send video message across the globe for very little cost. I haven’t even mention about Skype/Google Hangout that let relatives to communicate across the globe for free. These tech might not life altering to you, but it’s life altering to many. There is a reason why there are 1B+ people using Facebook, hundred of millions using Snapchat/Skype/Googlehangout/etc. It allow people to connect in ways that they haven’t been able to before. Before, all you got is pen and paper. There are SOOOO MUCH more innovation we’ve made in the last 10 years that I haven’t even mentioned. These innovation might not be life altering to you because you don’t use it, but it’s life altering to many, which is why these companies are making money hand over feet. I would hate to go back to 1995 and have to pay $1000 for a color scanner.

[FlyerInHi]

CAr, why is going to the moon in itself valuable?

In your opinion, fluff or not, if people think that it’s valuable, then it is.

It’s just like paper money. People think it’s valuable so it is.

To me, facebook is a service like a haircut or a doctor’s visit, or going to the movies.

I think the mobile technologies might eventually replace the credit card, and paper money. Money itself is just a tool to facilitate trade. It’s possible that we invent something else to replace/displace money in allocating resources.

AN, interesting that you should mention cheap/free communications. That’s creating an interconnected world and communities of people who feel at ease moving around the world in search of opportunities because they can stay in touch with their loved ones.

I remember the days when a long distance call was something special. people used to limit their conversations. Now they can Skype for free.

[FlyerInHi]

We have to look at the context… back in the mid 1990s, there were lots of anti-immigrant agitation caused by the downturn of the defense economy in CA. Remember Bob Dornan was still in office.

Remember Prop 187? Prop 209 was meant to protect White enrollment. At that time, the author of Prop 209 did not foresee that Asian students would ace all the admission tests and make up an ever larger share of the student body. So now people have buyers’ remorse.

There were unintended consequences of Prop 187 and Prop 209.

It’s amazing to me to that in the space of less than 20 years Asians have really moved up the social ladder (thanks to the dominance of tech and the education that is required for that).

The Hispanic population has also become a force to reckon with.

California is now a very global state with people coming from around the world… SCA-5 is just a nativist reaction to the demographic changes happening in CA and reflect people’s insecurities. SCA-5 will not succeed because it’s on the wrong side of history.

Whites led the assault on affirmative action, but I think we’ll live to regret it. Admissions to top universities is much more valuable today so you have the brightest students of all races focusing on them. Average students will be left with lower rung schools.

IMO, first and second generation immigrants of Eastern Europe and Asia are just more focused on education. Now you see more middle and upper class immigrants from Latin America and Africa coming for education. Those are the new rules of the game. If you want to compete, you’d better get with the program.

[Anonymous]

My measure of value is more relevant than your measure of value.

The same is true for my measure of fairness.

My aunt (who also uses the word “oriental”) wrote a letter to my son a few weeks ago. An old-fashioned, cursive, hand-written letter. Sent in the mail. The paper was not ruled but the text was perfectly horizontal. Three pages long.

My son was fascinated. That letter was a work of fine art.

[FlyerInHi]

Oriental sounds dated and includes the Middle East and turkey I believe.

[Coronita]

[quote=ocrenter][quote=flu][quote=scaredyclassic]i always liked oriental avenue and the light blue properties on the monopoly board. they seemed reasonably priced, a decent value. then again, I always covet baltic and mediterranean, and have the greens and yellows. too ritzy for me. now i live in a green property. i’d probably prefer something in the purples, maybe st. charles, or tennessee avenue.[/quote]

Statistically, the best properties are the orange and red ones, with a second place going to the purple properties…….As one has the most chance of landing there… You have a pretty good chance of ending up in jail many times, and there’s a chance card that says go to illnois or st. charles place…[/quote]

Wow, tips on how to beat my daughter at the next game of Monopoly AND petitioning against racist legislation all in the same thread, nice![/quote]

Monopoly works wonders on teaching mental math..

There’s another lesson my kid learned tonight the virtues of a being a property own… Because when inflation hits and property values rise and landlords raise rent prices(with hotels and houses), paychecks (“GO” money) never keep up with inflation …..

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