California Senate Passes Discrimination Bill SCA-5….

[scaredyclassic]

on the other hand, you might want to get an actual legal opinion before attempting any of these finely parsed responses to aid or racial identity questions. i am not offering legal advice. All of the above is for entertainment purposes only. you should always answer questions honestly and in good faith. Also, ensure there is consistency in answering questions, from the birth certificate onwards, to ensure your showing of good faith. This is not legal advice and I’m not your lawyer. in fact, the most prudent thing to do would be to completely ignore everything I’ve said.

[spdrun]

Would a White South African immigrant be considered “African American” for the purposes of these surveys? Would a Black person from metropolitan France who was applying from abroad qualify?

[cahunter]

I have learned this bill for some time and have emailed and called my state assembly representative to vote NO on this bill.

Ed Hernandez sponsored similar bill, SB 185, in 2011. It was passed in both state senate and assembly but vetoed by Governor Jerry Brown. This time around, he is hope that with the 2/3 majority power of democrats, this bill can be presented to California voters to decide in November election.

This is a bill of race discrimination to me. Its ridiculousness is best illustrated by a comment I read here: http://capoliticalnews.com/2014/02/02/most-racist-bill-in-california-history-sca-5-by-democrat-senator-hernandez-forces-racism-as-criteria-to-entrance-to-uc-schools-limit-womens-enrollment-as-well/#IDComment796169378

I am very sad by this proposal. I am Korean adopted by a Hispanic family. Looks like all my siblings will get a better chance to get to college but me
. How stupid this is! I love my adoption family but this makes me sick to stomach.

[scaredyclassic]

it would be nice to see some asian student activism on high school campuses. maybe the jews can can join in and have some sort of “screw you, we won’t do your work strike” across the state high schools if you won’t let us in your universities. it would be pretty cool to see students fighting about something.

imagine the chaos in high schools if everyone just stopped working; or even going into classes.

perhaps students could refuse to sit, speak or work for the entire period.

at the very least, any group affected by this bill should refuse to ever identify on any form forever and should never take any state standardized test to try to help a publci school achieve a better standing.

on the other hand, UC schools are getting to be kind of a financial ripoff. maybe it’s not so bad on a pracical financial level…

[Gunslinger]

signed it partner

[Coronita]

The problem with a lot of Asians is they don’t give a rats ass about things related to governmental policies. Until it attacks something that is a fundamental no no (crossing the line).

Fucking with kids education is one of those things.

Me thinks I will be camping out next weekend at ranch 99 with a petition table and a laptop… This is just bullshit

[spdrun]

Have to say, that goes for most Americans, Asian or not, in general. Compare the periodic street protests in Paris, essentially shutting down the city, to the relatively tame Occupy strikes….

[Coronita]

Can you imagine if this bill, instead of about education, was about real estate?

Only 13% of the total number of residence in Carmel Valley, La Jolla, RSF can be asians…

Ridiculous…

[Coronita]

[quote=scaredyclassic]it would be nice to see some asian student activism on high school campuses. maybe the jews can can join in and have some sort of “screw you, we won’t do your work strike” across the state high schools if you won’t let us in your universities. it would be pretty cool to see students fighting about something.

imagine the chaos in high schools if everyone just stopped working; or even going into classes.

perhaps students could refuse to sit, speak or work for the entire period.

at the very least, any group affected by this bill should refuse to ever identify on any form forever and should never take any state standardized test to try to help a publci school achieve a better standing.

on the other hand, UC schools are getting to be kind of a financial ripoff. maybe it’s not so bad on a pracical financial level…[/quote]

It’s not just UC schools… It’s any CA state school (Cal State system included)….

[ltsddd]

I am a little torn on this issue. I don’t think the UC schools have ever been merit-based only wrt their admission policy.
I believe the UC schools still deploying the 60:40 ratio for freshman admissions. That is, 60% of the available spots are to be used to admit incoming freshmen based strictly on academics only. And the other 40% is when the schools would take into account the student’s extra-curricula activities, economic background, etc. If this is still the case then it begs the question – is it fair if, all things being equal, a student got admitted because they came from a “poor” family over a student that came from a “wealthy” family? If the schools have been using the financial background and one of the metrics for admission then how different is it if they were to add race to category? I guess in this case if you’re rich and Asian/White then you’re doubly screwed.

That said, I’ve always told my kids to make sure that just make sure that they make the grades to ensure that they are the 60 percenter and take the decision making out of the hands of the schools.

[scaredyclassic]

perhaps just handicap the asians and jews. give them say half the time as other groups on tests. that would be more exciting and in keeping with the general sprit of competitiveness…

[Coronita]

[quote=ltsdd]I am a little torn on this issue. I don’t think the UC schools have ever been merit-based only wrt their admission policy.
I believe the UC schools still deploying the 60:40 ratio for freshman admissions. That is, 60% of the available spots are to be used to admit incoming freshmen based strictly on academics only. And the other 40% is when the schools would take into account the student’s extra-curricula activities, economic background, etc. If this is still the case then it begs the question – is it fair if, all things being equal, a student got admitted because they came from a “poor” family over a student that came from a “wealthy” family? If the schools have been using the financial background and one of the metrics for admission then how different is it if they were to add race to category? I guess in this case if you’re rich and Asian/White then you’re doubly screwed.

That said, I’ve always told my kids to make sure that just make sure that they make the grades to ensure that they are the 60 percenter and take the decision making out of the hands of the schools.[/quote]

Classic “if my kid makes the extreme cut”, then injustice doesn’t matter for the rest of them there were otherwise qualified…

[scaredyclassic]

Given the relatively recent imprisonment if Asians during wwii, they seem to have a pretty good pedigree for being recent victims of discrimination resulting in a social disadvantage.

[paramount]

[quote=scaredyclassic]it would be nice to see some asian student activism on high school campuses. maybe the jews can can join in and have some sort of “screw you, we won’t do your work strike” across the state high schools if you won’t let us in your universities. it would be pretty cool to see students fighting about something.

[/quote]

So jews are a race and not a religion? Both?

And they’re screwing us already – it’s called the federal reserve. In fact, that would be a great place to start the work stoppage.

[dumbrenter]

[quote=flu]Can you imagine if this bill, instead of about education, was about real estate?

Only 13% of the total number of residence in Carmel Valley, La Jolla, RSF can be asians…

Ridiculous…[/quote]
You are giving me ideas 🙂
That would be one way to bring the prices down in these neighborhoods

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