60 mpg by 2025

[briansd1]

I personally would like the government to stop spending money on building new roads so that public transport becomes a more viable option.

BTW, mandating higher CAFE standards does not mean that gas guzzlers will be banned. Gas guzzlers will become more expensive, that’s all.

Mark my words; when the Chinese build new alternative fuel auto companies and when we have to buy their cars, we will wonder why we gave up that market. At that time, just don’t complain about the hollowing of the American middle-class.

[Ren]

I don’t think either side has anything to worry about. There might be tight regulations in 15 years, but there are always ways around that (either by buying an older model or paying a gas guzzler tax), and in 30 years, the majority of cars won’t be powered by gasoline at all, so mileage won’t be an issue anyway. Those people who do want a high-performance (and near-zero emmissions) gas hog to drive on the weekends will still be able to buy them. Enthusiasts like me won’t care if there are “penalties” for owning such beasts or if gas is $20/gallon – I’ll still need to hear that flat-6 wail. Gas engines will never die out completely. Thank the gods.

[Ren]

I don’t think either side has anything to worry about. There might be tight regulations in 15 years, but there are always ways around that (either by buying an older model or paying a gas guzzler tax), and in 30 years, the majority of cars won’t be powered by gasoline at all, so mileage won’t be an issue anyway. Those people who do want a high-performance (and near-zero emmissions) gas hog to drive on the weekends will still be able to buy them. Enthusiasts like me won’t care if there are “penalties” for owning such beasts or if gas is $20/gallon – I’ll still need to hear that flat-6 wail. Gas engines will never die out completely. Thank the gods.

[Ren]

I don’t think either side has anything to worry about. There might be tight regulations in 15 years, but there are always ways around that (either by buying an older model or paying a gas guzzler tax), and in 30 years, the majority of cars won’t be powered by gasoline at all, so mileage won’t be an issue anyway. Those people who do want a high-performance (and near-zero emmissions) gas hog to drive on the weekends will still be able to buy them. Enthusiasts like me won’t care if there are “penalties” for owning such beasts or if gas is $20/gallon – I’ll still need to hear that flat-6 wail. Gas engines will never die out completely. Thank the gods.

[Ren]

I don’t think either side has anything to worry about. There might be tight regulations in 15 years, but there are always ways around that (either by buying an older model or paying a gas guzzler tax), and in 30 years, the majority of cars won’t be powered by gasoline at all, so mileage won’t be an issue anyway. Those people who do want a high-performance (and near-zero emmissions) gas hog to drive on the weekends will still be able to buy them. Enthusiasts like me won’t care if there are “penalties” for owning such beasts or if gas is $20/gallon – I’ll still need to hear that flat-6 wail. Gas engines will never die out completely. Thank the gods.

[Ren]

I don’t think either side has anything to worry about. There might be tight regulations in 15 years, but there are always ways around that (either by buying an older model or paying a gas guzzler tax), and in 30 years, the majority of cars won’t be powered by gasoline at all, so mileage won’t be an issue anyway. Those people who do want a high-performance (and near-zero emmissions) gas hog to drive on the weekends will still be able to buy them. Enthusiasts like me won’t care if there are “penalties” for owning such beasts or if gas is $20/gallon – I’ll still need to hear that flat-6 wail. Gas engines will never die out completely. Thank the gods.

[briansd1]

You are right, Ren.
The question remains: will American companies build most of the cars we drive 30 years from now?

It looks like gas guzzlers are depreciating really fast these days.

Look at the resale price of this Mercedes S430.
http://www.edmunds.com/used/2000/mercedesbenz/sclass/8716/prices.html

A used Prius, which originally sold for much less, is worth more.

[briansd1]

You are right, Ren.
The question remains: will American companies build most of the cars we drive 30 years from now?

It looks like gas guzzlers are depreciating really fast these days.

Look at the resale price of this Mercedes S430.
http://www.edmunds.com/used/2000/mercedesbenz/sclass/8716/prices.html

A used Prius, which originally sold for much less, is worth more.

[briansd1]

You are right, Ren.
The question remains: will American companies build most of the cars we drive 30 years from now?

It looks like gas guzzlers are depreciating really fast these days.

Look at the resale price of this Mercedes S430.
http://www.edmunds.com/used/2000/mercedesbenz/sclass/8716/prices.html

A used Prius, which originally sold for much less, is worth more.

[briansd1]

You are right, Ren.
The question remains: will American companies build most of the cars we drive 30 years from now?

It looks like gas guzzlers are depreciating really fast these days.

Look at the resale price of this Mercedes S430.
http://www.edmunds.com/used/2000/mercedesbenz/sclass/8716/prices.html

A used Prius, which originally sold for much less, is worth more.

[briansd1]

You are right, Ren.
The question remains: will American companies build most of the cars we drive 30 years from now?

It looks like gas guzzlers are depreciating really fast these days.

Look at the resale price of this Mercedes S430.
http://www.edmunds.com/used/2000/mercedesbenz/sclass/8716/prices.html

A used Prius, which originally sold for much less, is worth more.

[sdduuuude]

[quote=briansd1]You are right, Ren.
The question remains: will American companies build most of the cars we drive 30 years from now?

It looks like gas guzzlers are depreciating really fast these days.

Look at the resale price of this Mercedes S430.
http://www.edmunds.com/used/2000/mercedesbenz/sclass/8716/prices.html

A used Prius, which originally sold for much less, is worth more.[/quote]

Interesting.

This, I have no problems with !

Brian, I have to admit since you have turned over a new leaf of avoiding the political bitch-wars, your posts are much more insightful – all around. I actually stop and think about your posts now.

[sdduuuude]

[quote=briansd1]You are right, Ren.
The question remains: will American companies build most of the cars we drive 30 years from now?

It looks like gas guzzlers are depreciating really fast these days.

Look at the resale price of this Mercedes S430.
http://www.edmunds.com/used/2000/mercedesbenz/sclass/8716/prices.html

A used Prius, which originally sold for much less, is worth more.[/quote]

Interesting.

This, I have no problems with !

Brian, I have to admit since you have turned over a new leaf of avoiding the political bitch-wars, your posts are much more insightful – all around. I actually stop and think about your posts now.

[sdduuuude]

[quote=briansd1]You are right, Ren.
The question remains: will American companies build most of the cars we drive 30 years from now?

It looks like gas guzzlers are depreciating really fast these days.

Look at the resale price of this Mercedes S430.
http://www.edmunds.com/used/2000/mercedesbenz/sclass/8716/prices.html

A used Prius, which originally sold for much less, is worth more.[/quote]

Interesting.

This, I have no problems with !

Brian, I have to admit since you have turned over a new leaf of avoiding the political bitch-wars, your posts are much more insightful – all around. I actually stop and think about your posts now.

[sdduuuude]

[quote=briansd1]You are right, Ren.
The question remains: will American companies build most of the cars we drive 30 years from now?

It looks like gas guzzlers are depreciating really fast these days.

Look at the resale price of this Mercedes S430.
http://www.edmunds.com/used/2000/mercedesbenz/sclass/8716/prices.html

A used Prius, which originally sold for much less, is worth more.[/quote]

Interesting.

This, I have no problems with !

Brian, I have to admit since you have turned over a new leaf of avoiding the political bitch-wars, your posts are much more insightful – all around. I actually stop and think about your posts now.

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