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Actually, I had a wonderful day. I hope you did also. I do realize that most people really dislike reality interfering with their state of denial. Sorry to impinge.

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It is Americans who want war; the leaders are simply an expression of that desire. We are a society founded on the principles of conquest from the very start. We worship power in all its forms, as we are as all empires before us, blood-sucking murderers. We love killing, violence, and all forms of destruction. We’re humans, like it or not.

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Americans need to study their history in order to understand the relationships which exist between institutions and individuals. Everything that is happening is by design. You must remember that any ruling elite, no matter the system, simply views the masses as quanta of labor-power/consumer potential. Alan Greenspan was/is a mouthpiece for the elite and will deny reality to the end. Bill Clinton, in modern times, revealed that if you continually lie with a straight face, most people will tend to believe; as the more dependent they become, the less choices they have, the more they NEED to believe.

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ocrenter,
I don’t disagree with anything you are saying but I believe you are looking at an extremely complex problem in an overly simplistic way. The local (individual) dysfunctional behavior manifest throughout the health care system is tied into the over all dysfunction present systemically. In other words, what’s happening in health care is intimately tied into what’s happening in housing, government, and in every other corrupt institution. All things are inter-related. How can it be any other way?

The point of my post was to inform those benignly unaware that they must take responsibility for their own care. As to your point about blanket statements; I would still contend that it is nearly impossible to be honest and profitable simultaneously. Perhaps the great tragedy of our time is the self-imposition of what I have always referred to as the ‘corporatisation of the individual,’ i.e., individuals who have internalized bottom-line mentality as a strategy for economic survival.

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ocrenter,
I don’t disagree with anything you are saying but I believe you are looking at an extremely complex problem in an overly simplistic way. The local (individual) dysfunctional behavior manifest throughout the health care system is tied into the over all dysfunction present systemically. In other words, what’s happening in health care is intimately tied into what’s happening in housing, government, and in every other corrupt institution. All things are inter-related. How can it be any other way?

The point of my post was to inform those benignly unaware that they must take responsibility for their own care. As to your point about blanket statements; I would still contend that it is nearly impossible to be honest and profitable simultaneously. Perhaps the great tragedy of our time is the self-imposition of what I have always referred to as the ‘corporatisation of the individual,’ i.e., individuals who have internalized bottom-line mentality as a strategy for economic survival.

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ocrenter,
You are correct that I should have not assumed that you are ignorant of health issues. I simple concluded this from your statements. You have made a plethora of assumptions yourself and although I feel little compulsion to defend myself, I will tell you that other than an occasional pen, pad of sticky notes, or coffee cup, I have taken nothing from anybody. Although I have done well in practice, I am not a wealthy person. Personally, I feel the road to hell is paved with hundred dollar bills, but that’s another story.

I used to be quite active and wrote on the subject of national health care/health care reform back in the 80’s when the corporate take-over was just under way. There are a great variety of issues in health care and it’s difficult to intelligently address them in a forum such as this. What I try to do in practice is empower patients by telling them that they are responsible for their own care. This is most important. We live in a society where exploitation through dependency is the order of the day. Remember, nobody in this system makes money keeping people healthy; it’s all about disease.

ocrenter, you are a very intelligent young man, but I don’t believe you understand the entire picture. Most people have a fixed system of belief, then work their way back to the argument. Try to keep an open mind. Remember that all things intellectual are relative and personal. People generally get into trouble when they attempt to impose their own reality on others.

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ocrenter,
You are correct that I should have not assumed that you are ignorant of health issues. I simple concluded this from your statements. You have made a plethora of assumptions yourself and although I feel little compulsion to defend myself, I will tell you that other than an occasional pen, pad of sticky notes, or coffee cup, I have taken nothing from anybody. Although I have done well in practice, I am not a wealthy person. Personally, I feel the road to hell is paved with hundred dollar bills, but that’s another story.

I used to be quite active and wrote on the subject of national health care/health care reform back in the 80’s when the corporate take-over was just under way. There are a great variety of issues in health care and it’s difficult to intelligently address them in a forum such as this. What I try to do in practice is empower patients by telling them that they are responsible for their own care. This is most important. We live in a society where exploitation through dependency is the order of the day. Remember, nobody in this system makes money keeping people healthy; it’s all about disease.

ocrenter, you are a very intelligent young man, but I don’t believe you understand the entire picture. Most people have a fixed system of belief, then work their way back to the argument. Try to keep an open mind. Remember that all things intellectual are relative and personal. People generally get into trouble when they attempt to impose their own reality on others.

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ocrenter,
Upon considering your advice, I think I will retire (from this site). I wish you all the best.

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ocrenter,
Upon considering your advice, I think I will retire (from this site). I wish you all the best.

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ocrenter,
If you had the slightest clue what was going on in health care, you might believe differently. These are extreme times we live in. Your future, your children’s future, and theirs’ has been mortgaged with the proceeds stuffed into the deep pockets of the few. Those who control are so far removed from the common experience that only the mandate to generate the highest return on capital investment takes priority. In fact, it is illegal for a corporate board to act in any other interest then their shareholders. These are the people who are deciding what kind of health care we are all receiving.

Just as the debt bubble is a house of cards and must eventually crumble, so must the illusion that corporations care about your health. Believe me, they couldn’t give a sh*t about anything except your $$.

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ocrenter,
If you had the slightest clue what was going on in health care, you might believe differently. These are extreme times we live in. Your future, your children’s future, and theirs’ has been mortgaged with the proceeds stuffed into the deep pockets of the few. Those who control are so far removed from the common experience that only the mandate to generate the highest return on capital investment takes priority. In fact, it is illegal for a corporate board to act in any other interest then their shareholders. These are the people who are deciding what kind of health care we are all receiving.

Just as the debt bubble is a house of cards and must eventually crumble, so must the illusion that corporations care about your health. Believe me, they couldn’t give a sh*t about anything except your $$.

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I should have premised my comments by saying that there are obviously wonderful doctors, drugs, technology, etc. I did not wish to minimize the contributions made by literally millions of health care workers of all stripes. It’s just very important to know what you’re up against.

I can’t really give specific advice to individuals, but there is an almost unlimited amount of information on the net. The most important thing I can tell you is to trust your own intuition. Believe in yourself.

As far as sex with yourself is concerned, I believe the healing aspect of sex has to do with hormone secretions from each party, although I am no expert in this field (just ask my ex-wife :).

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I should have premised my comments by saying that there are obviously wonderful doctors, drugs, technology, etc. I did not wish to minimize the contributions made by literally millions of health care workers of all stripes. It’s just very important to know what you’re up against.

I can’t really give specific advice to individuals, but there is an almost unlimited amount of information on the net. The most important thing I can tell you is to trust your own intuition. Believe in yourself.

As far as sex with yourself is concerned, I believe the healing aspect of sex has to do with hormone secretions from each party, although I am no expert in this field (just ask my ex-wife :).

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You people don’t get it. The health care system is doing EXACTLY what it is designed to do…make huge amounts of money for the corporations which control it. You, as is the case for most Americans, just can’t believe that the health care system was taken over by people whose mandate is to produce the highest return for shareholders.

This system is this way because it’s the law. Wake up people!! You’re living in a fairly tale which no longer exists.

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You people don’t get it. The health care system is doing EXACTLY what it is designed to do…make huge amounts of money for the corporations which control it. You, as is the case for most Americans, just can’t believe that the health care system was taken over by people whose mandate is to produce the highest return for shareholders.

This system is this way because it’s the law. Wake up people!! You’re living in a fairly tale which no longer exists.

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