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Participantsdr, you’ve got one hell of a memory! And you are correct, it was a good place to be from, especially in the 50’s/60’s. Were you there in the 70’s when you could still get a gorgeous 3500sf Main Line stone home on a pristine acre or two for a buck and a quarter? Philadelphia may not be a lot of things, but you simple can’t beat the real estate. Absolutely gorgeous homes by the thousands and thousands, and, of course the birthplace of my personal hero, Grace Kelly :).
ParticipantActually, Mama’s, on Belmont Avenue (Bala Cynwyd) wipes Pat’s or Geno’s. After Mama’s you could bop over to Overbrook WaterIce for a $0.49 chocolate and a couple of soft pretzel *with* mustard, either on Main Street in Manayunk or be really brave and do the original across from Overbrook high school. Now, if we’re talking Geno’s hambergers (back in the 50’s and 60’s), I’ll take Geno’s. Grew up in Lower Merion (Bryn Mawr, Wynnewood, then Penn Valley) but have been gone for several decades.
ParticipantActually, Mama’s, on Belmont Avenue (Bala Cynwyd) wipes Pat’s or Geno’s. After Mama’s you could bop over to Overbrook WaterIce for a $0.49 chocolate and a couple of soft pretzel *with* mustard, either on Main Street in Manayunk or be really brave and do the original across from Overbrook high school. Now, if we’re talking Geno’s hambergers (back in the 50’s and 60’s), I’ll take Geno’s. Grew up in Lower Merion (Bryn Mawr, Wynnewood, then Penn Valley) but have been gone for several decades.
ParticipantActually, the revolution has been underway for the past fifty years. And, as is always the case, the seeds of the succeeding revolution are planted simultaneously. You are watching (and participating in) the counter-revolution as we speak! Just think about what’s going on in the world right now. Hang on tight my friend, it’s going to be one hell of a ride.
On the other hand, none of it really exists anyway :).
“Impermanence is swift”
Huang Po d850ADParticipantActually, the revolution has been underway for the past fifty years. And, as is always the case, the seeds of the succeeding revolution are planted simultaneously. You are watching (and participating in) the counter-revolution as we speak! Just think about what’s going on in the world right now. Hang on tight my friend, it’s going to be one hell of a ride.
On the other hand, none of it really exists anyway :).
“Impermanence is swift”
Huang Po d850ADParticipantIt really doesn’t matter which institution you refer to. They all work in concert, so if one is corrupt, they are all corrupt. The point I was attempting to make is that although there are people who are more or less eithical for probably a trillion different reasons, the morality of the society dictates the boundries by which each of us must operate. Unfortunately, the morality of this society is determined by those who are the most unbalanced, and view the purpose of human existance as simply maximising the return on capital investment. Nature, or God, or whatever you wish to call it, will take care of this dysfunction in due time.
LS2008, try not to blame other people. Isn’t it hard enough just to try and take care of ourselves? Who knows, maybe somewhere along the line, a Realtor did something that greatly helped you or a member of your family to be a better person. Try not to confuse a corupt system with bad people. The vast majority of people are simply trying to get by, raise a family, and seek some sort of contentment in life. As you know, this is no easy task, especially in these times of incredible change. Kick back, and have a cold one and think how fortunate you are to be in a position to make a real difference in a young person’s life.
ParticipantIt really doesn’t matter which institution you refer to. They all work in concert, so if one is corrupt, they are all corrupt. The point I was attempting to make is that although there are people who are more or less eithical for probably a trillion different reasons, the morality of the society dictates the boundries by which each of us must operate. Unfortunately, the morality of this society is determined by those who are the most unbalanced, and view the purpose of human existance as simply maximising the return on capital investment. Nature, or God, or whatever you wish to call it, will take care of this dysfunction in due time.
LS2008, try not to blame other people. Isn’t it hard enough just to try and take care of ourselves? Who knows, maybe somewhere along the line, a Realtor did something that greatly helped you or a member of your family to be a better person. Try not to confuse a corupt system with bad people. The vast majority of people are simply trying to get by, raise a family, and seek some sort of contentment in life. As you know, this is no easy task, especially in these times of incredible change. Kick back, and have a cold one and think how fortunate you are to be in a position to make a real difference in a young person’s life.
ParticipantLet’s take LS2008’s profession, Education, as an example. There are many wonderful teachers out there, very caring, very bright, damn good people. But what are they doing to the children of our country? They are ‘teaching’ them a prescribed curriculum which insures a compliant populace, i.e., basically creating non-thinking droids. Does this mean that teachers are corrupt? Most teachers know exactly what’s going on but can do little to change it other than attempt to encourage their students to learn on their own. It’s this way in law, in government, in health care, in everything.
This system of ours is decaying and this is what happens. As with all systems, a new one will take its place eventually but you and I and probably the next couple of generations are going to have to deal with a great deal of ugliness. It’s just the way it is. Do the best you can to help the most people and let the chips fall where they may.
ParticipantLet’s take LS2008’s profession, Education, as an example. There are many wonderful teachers out there, very caring, very bright, damn good people. But what are they doing to the children of our country? They are ‘teaching’ them a prescribed curriculum which insures a compliant populace, i.e., basically creating non-thinking droids. Does this mean that teachers are corrupt? Most teachers know exactly what’s going on but can do little to change it other than attempt to encourage their students to learn on their own. It’s this way in law, in government, in health care, in everything.
This system of ours is decaying and this is what happens. As with all systems, a new one will take its place eventually but you and I and probably the next couple of generations are going to have to deal with a great deal of ugliness. It’s just the way it is. Do the best you can to help the most people and let the chips fall where they may.
ParticipantThis is not black and white. It’s not that people necessarily want to be corrupt, in many cases (and increasingly so) there is simply little choice. That’s one of the many problems out there, no alternatives, but that’s another story.
There has been a legal climate constructed within this society which mandates very specific behaviors. In medicine, it’s called the “standard of care.” If you don’t follow this standard, even if you know it is not correct, you’re setting yourself up to get slaughtered. The standard of care is now basically the standard of gaining the highest return on capital investment. This is just the reality of modern corporate-controlled medicine. It’s pretty much the same everywhere else too.
So, it’s not just a matter of being evil or corrupt. It’s much more complicated than that.
ParticipantThis is not black and white. It’s not that people necessarily want to be corrupt, in many cases (and increasingly so) there is simply little choice. That’s one of the many problems out there, no alternatives, but that’s another story.
There has been a legal climate constructed within this society which mandates very specific behaviors. In medicine, it’s called the “standard of care.” If you don’t follow this standard, even if you know it is not correct, you’re setting yourself up to get slaughtered. The standard of care is now basically the standard of gaining the highest return on capital investment. This is just the reality of modern corporate-controlled medicine. It’s pretty much the same everywhere else too.
So, it’s not just a matter of being evil or corrupt. It’s much more complicated than that.
ParticipantWell, not much I can add to your eloquent statement except, how did you ever get a teaching position?
ParticipantWell, not much I can add to your eloquent statement except, how did you ever get a teaching position?
ParticipantIt’s not a question of what people will do for money; people will do *everything* for money, and have throughout history. The question is, how does one exist within the system as it confronts us all?
I have told people for the past fifteen years that, as almost any type of health care provider, if you **truly** acted in the best interests of the patient (and I don’t mean “I have to live like a doctor,” best interests, either) , you would be out of business within a month. This is the reality of a health care system run by corporations, either directly or indirectly.
The problems we all face in this country are extremely complex and can not be solved easily. If you have solutions, speak up. The planet would love to hear them.
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