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[quote=spdrun]Technically, you’d just need a giant siphon :)[/quote]
No you’re talking!

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Here is a link to the best video image of what was going on at the emergency spillway. http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/12/us/california-oroville-dam-failure/index.html Flows there have receded now ,but by putting the damaged main spillway back on higher flows.

I wonder if there are pumps that could be brought onsite that can even begin to help move this amount of water? I pretty much doubt it. I guess they want to get it down 50 feet in case of new storm flow. Hope they can, and that it’s enough.

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[quote=svelte]Great analysis here…

https://www.metabunk.org/oroville-dam-spillway-failure.t8381/

from the looks of the bedrock shown, looks like we are far from disaster.[/quote]
Probably far from disaster. It looks like the main spill way has about 20 feet of decomposed granite between the manmade concrete chute and the bedrock. Unless at some point the concrete is laying on bedrock directly there is nothing to stop it from eroding all the way to the top. If the operators had to shut the spillway gates could the emergency spill way hold up? Just some questions.

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If you are from a very cold winter area and supper wet places, you won’t see a lot of stucco because to some degree it absorbs water, which if it freezes will trash the weak/inflexible bonds in the plaster. I think now there are sealants/impregnators for this and you start to see stucco in more places. Traditional stucco is not good to paint, so that’s a draw back. People still do it, and we can sort of get away with it here because San Diego is so dry.

Other than that , it’s cheap, applies very quickly, fairly sturdy to weather and pests, generally long lasting, pretty good at sound dampening, and in our desert region , doesn’t look bad with the right design and possible accents of other materials.

I live in a windy area, my neighbor went with lap siding when he built. Even with code required dual pane windows and beautiful heavy doors you can hear the wind roaring during a santa ana condition. My house, which has stucco is pretty quiet.

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The truth was a mirror in the hands of God. It fell, and broke into pieces. Everybody took a piece of it, and they looked at it and thought they had the truth.
Rumi

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Flu,
I wonder if the weep holes in you window are clogged? Maybe cleaning the tracks really well especially near the weep holes would do it. Other than that , possible window flashing leak or a leak in the seal where the wood siding abuts the stucco.

Is the wood siding new work? Replacement?

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I was at Oroville last 4th of July and the lake was up from the terrible low of the year before , but now it’s nearing capacity, so , what then if we really do get an “atmospheric river” ?

Maybe CA should not secede just yet, bring in FEMA?

Looks like the county of SD is going to get soaked today and over the weekend!

Be safe out there!

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[quote=flu]So here’s a side photo of the valve and regulator. I decided not to try to tackle this today, but to think it out more throughly..

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As you can see, the two lock nuts on the regulator has enough clearance and (assuming they aren’t completely frozen), should be allow the regulator to be removed.

The concerning part is the bottom elbows. Yes, there appears to be two of them.

Any change of attack? I think the bottom part of the drywall needs to be removed. It’s probably going to get destroyed anyway with any sort of heat to the pipe…

I’m thinking maybe remove both elbows at the bottom and just have a clean pipe running up from the ground to work with…

I also measured the pressure on my pipes. It looks to be around 80-82 PSI…Ouch…I guess it’s been that way for awhile now…[/quote]

I was concerned about the space too , but you have plenty of room there. Here is the trick with the pressure regulator. When you go to put it back in, your tolerances are pretty tight , it you force it together too much you put in strain on your newly soldered joints, but what you can do, to have a little play , is put the valve and regulator in before you solder it all back up. Build an assembly between top and bottom runs of pipe. Those top and bottom elbows are your friends. Fit and solder/wrench together every thing between them and solder them last. You don’t want to solder half a fitting at a time so don’t do that to those elbows, do them all at once. (technically you solder half a fitting at a time but don’t do half and come back and solder the other half later. More or less heat up the whole coupling or elbow then smoothly transition from soldering one side to the other, it that all makes sense. Otherwise you get weird stuff happening in the joint.

Don’t cut anything with a saw, you don’t want to hammer your pipes with that kind of vibration and you can use your pieces to leverage of the heated fittings in demo. You have to remember that you could break a fitting down the line somewhere if you are too rough. You’ve got this!

Sorry if some hints are redundant, not going to read the whole thread. Spray your flammables down and have a spray bottle on hand to cool any wood that might get a little cooked. It doesn’t matter if it happens a little bit. Try not to water cool your solder joints though. Again perfection is not needed just some concern. It’s only plumbing you can take it apart and do it over if you need to.

Practice a few solder joints that have nothing to do with the project first too. Use youtube and don’t worry if they don’t look nice and full like a perfect one does , don’t “retouch” if you don’t have to. Just eye to make sure the solder flows nicely. If you get a severely blackened fitting , yank it and do it over.

Also for a small non-pressurized drip you can ball up white bread and shove it in the pipe , don’t do this in front of the pressure regulator though. you might have to take off a faucet screen to get the bread out if you do this, but it works. You can buy these little gel ball things instead of using bread , but I never have. THe new valve in your picture has threads so you would need to buy male to to solder fitting pieces for that or get a valve with solder fittings. Sweat your largest fittings in an assembly first and let them cool ,so as not to get things too hot for the small fittings.

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The biggest risk/challenge with this job is that the bottom sweat fittings are very near to the stucco wall and side walk which was poured after the original piping work.

Anyway, worst case scenario is the you have to breaks some of that masonry.

The pressure regulator can be removed first with two wrenches . you should do that so it doesn’t act as a heat sink while you are trying to sweat apart the water valve. HOWEVER, first make sure that your water main valve actually stops the flow of water. You don’t want to break this open and find out it doesn’t, which is pretty common.

Definitely buy the mapp gas and a decent torch. Better to avoid putting too much heat than mess around not getting enough.

EDIT, Read B’s post, if that is drywall, not stucco, I guess you will just break it out and do a patch after. Use a piece of galvanized flashing as a heat shield for soldering, you can get one in the roofing dept. About 8×10 piece of metal that you can easily bend.

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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18458717/san-diego-chargers-desperate-move-shot-nfl-vitality-2017

I doubt it’s over. This story never ends.

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[quote=scaredyclassic][quote=NotCranky]Ease of weight gain as we get older is God’s way of nudging us to take better care of ourselves.[/quote]

why is,He so passive-aggressive?[/quote]

What would we be if God made everything easy?

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Ease of weight gain as we get older is God’s way of nudging us to take better care of ourselves.

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Have a six pack by my next birthday, or drink one.

Tell the dentist to quit sticking that goddam pointy thing between my teeth and gums.

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I think that house should be on the Countering Disinformation And Propaganda Act thread.

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It’s a propaganda warfare kind of world.

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