OT: So what exactly does the term “alternative facts” mean?

[Coronita]

Lol..

I’m really trying really really hard to understand how something could be an “alternative fact”?

Can someone explain to me how something could have “alternative facts”.
How could facts#1 be an “alternative fact” to facts#2????

Or is this just another gaslighting attempt?

[ocrenter]

LOL!!!

Alternative fact = Faux News

[zk]

It means lie.

[FlyerInHi]

And stupid, gullible people believe them.

[spdrun]

Agitprop.

[phaster]

when Trump and his administration see and say its an “Alternative fact”
I think perhaps its “An inability to reason” or some kind of “Delusional disorder”

“Trump drew significantly fewer people than Obama did eight years ago, and Obama’s crowd has been estimated at around 1.8 million people. So Trump’s estimate of 1.5 million people seems unlikely”

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/1/21/14347298/trump-inauguration-crowd-size

http://www.npr.org/2017/01/23/511165499/president-trumps-relationship-with-the-media-gets-off-to-a-rocky-start

PS FWIW an “alternative fact” mindset also describes and perhaps explains why some see no problems w/ the business as usual management of the local public pensions

http://www.voiceofsandiego.org/topics/government/despite-reforms-city-county-pension-funds-billions-short/

[no_such_reality]

So I see two possibilities. First the not so funny one.

1. Trump’s you know what really is so small that being sworn in as the President simply isn’t enough, even though he is now the leader of a major superpower, his ego is so fragile that he actually can’t resist getting into a pissing match over any comment implying whether his crowd was bigger than the first ever African American President.

2. Trump baited the media and really is positioning the media as biased and combative.

Now while I’m a bit stunned at the audacity of the press conferences and distorted view, I also see a rather petty media playing too.

From VOX
[quote] “I turn on one of the networks, and they show an empty field,” Trump said at a speech Saturday afternoon at the CIA. “I’m like, wait a minute. I made a speech. I looked out, the field was, it looked like a million, million and a half people.”

The unnamed television network, he noted, estimated a turnout of 250,000 people — a figure he argued was way too low.

“Now, that’s not bad. But it’s a lie,” he said. “We had 250,000 people literally around in the little ball we constructed.” In other words, 250,000 people had been given tickets to the swearing-in ceremony, which is what the Joint Congressional Committee for Inaugural Ceremonies told CNN.[/quote]

To which VOX also shows Trump’s view

So is my real choice I get to decide if I’m gaslighted by the Trump organization or get gaslighted by the media?

BTW, welcome to 1984.

Or is it Animal Farm?

[zk]

…

[Coronita]

I think this is why I decided to try not watch TV and nor watch what happens in washington.

I’m going to bury my head in the sand.

I’d rather focus on more interesting things…Like plumbing.

[ucodegen]

[quote=flu]I think this is why I decided to try not watch TV and nor watch what happens in washington.

I’m going to bury my head in the sand.

I’d rather focus on more interesting things…Like plumbing.[/quote]
Plumbing is probably better for your stress levels. TV likes to stir things up to get people foaming at the mouth and watching more. Plumbing means you will have something fixed/learned instead of your cortisol levels all screwed up.

Ch 10’s morning announcers seem to try this by doing their morning news/weather is the loudest most dramatic voice possible – even if it something really boring.

[FlyerInHi]

But one should be connected enough to know that TPP does not include China. It was America’s attempt at leadership in the Pacific to exclude China. I would say that 98% of Trumpadors don’t know and don’t care but still opposed TPP.

[ucodegen]

[quote=FlyerInHi]But one should be connected enough to know that TPP does not include China. It was America’s attempt at leadership in the Pacific to exclude China. I would say that 98% of Trumpadors don’t know and don’t care but still opposed TPP.[/quote]
But it does include Mexico.

[ucodegen]

[quote=no_such_reality]
So is my real choice I get to decide if I’m gaslighted by the Trump organization or get gaslighted by the media?

BTW, welcome to 1984.

Or is it Animal Farm?[/quote]
What about a little bit of “Network”?

I’m trying to remember the name of the TV show or movie that takes the position of paid for announcers that don’t know s**t about news, history, etc displacing the knowledgeable journalists just because they look better on TV. It culminates with one of the pretty announcers reading copy w/o thinking, saying that a certain person recently committed a criminal act (don’t remember what). Turns out that ‘person’ has been long dead and has long been represented by a local monument – I think the name of so call person was Juan Cabrillo.

Found it: It was a made for TV movie called “News at Eleven”
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091624/

Go down to User reviews. The summary review at the top is too vague.

[Coronita]

I might need to purchase a miata earlier than I thought… Mazda may not survive…

https://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/articles/2017-01-24/subaru-will-overtake-mazda-on-trump-s-trade-track

[ucodegen]

[quote=flu]I might need to purchase a miata earlier than I thought… Mazda may not survive…

https://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/articles/2017-01-24/subaru-will-overtake-mazda-on-trump-s-trade-track%5B/quote%5D
What about buying Subaru. Mod a WRX and use it on the track? (oops – don’t completely know about Qualcomm now – with the latest soccer proposal)

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