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  • October 26, 2015 at 9:23 AM #790676
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    [quote=spdrun]I wonder, with proximity to Mexico, if there would be a market for another team that plays REAL football.[/quote]
    Chivas has the lowest attendance in MLS and that is the club that was supposed to capitalize on proximity to Mexico. It would make more sense to have Club Tijuana play some of their games in San Diego.
    On the other hand SD Sockers attendance is good, more than 50% of what Chivas generates and there are some decent clubs (Surf, Sharks, Carlsbad) north of 8, so there might be some potential for MLS franchise.

    October 26, 2015 at 9:53 AM #790677
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    San Diego is not even on the radar for MLS expansion. It is the same problem as Chargers, there is not an adequate stadium here.

    October 26, 2015 at 3:47 PM #790681
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    [quote=paramount]Looks like the Chargers are making it official: they are leaving San Diego.
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    I hope this ends up being true. I’m so sick of their extortion and even more disgusted by our leaders. (yeah Faulkner I’m looking at you) It’s downright embarrassing the way city council and the mayor threw all negotiation leverage out the window and started making wild proposals with tons of tax dollars when they thought the chargers might actually leave.

    Unfortunately, I don’t think it is at all settled that the chargers will leave town. If the NFL owners say no, (and they will say no to at least one of the teams that wants to move to LA) then the chargers can’t leave San Diego. (In which case all us taxpayers better get out the Ky)

    October 26, 2015 at 4:48 PM #790686
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    If the owners sat no to a move, then can’t the city also say no to a stadium? The Chargers wouldn’t have any more leverage. But I agree that the local politicians will likely play nice.

    I am actually for squeezing NYC type density into the mission valley parcel to make the project pay for itself and more.

    October 26, 2015 at 8:49 PM #790691
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    [quote=FlyerInHi]If the owners say no to a move, then can’t the city also say no to a stadium?[/quote]

    They could, but as you point out, the local politicians clearly lack the cajones to go that route.

    [quote=FlyerInHi]I am actually for squeezing NYC type density into the mission valley parcel to make the project pay for itself and more.[/quote]

    If the project would actually pay for itself, and make the city a profit, then developers would pay for the stadium themselves and keep the profits. But of course talk of how a stadium with development pays for itself is just BS. It completely ignores the costs that come with new neighborhoods, and developments.

    October 29, 2015 at 6:00 PM #790837
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    Interesting how it’s the worst teams that are talking about moving, and also believe they deserve a new stadium. I say show them the money. If the chargers go to LA and have to compete for fans with another team they will most likely lose money.

    October 29, 2015 at 7:33 PM #790840
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    NFL teams don’t lose money.

    October 29, 2015 at 7:37 PM #790841
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    [quote=XBoxBoy][quote=FlyerInHi]If the owners say no to a move, then can’t the city also say no to a stadium?[/quote]

    They could, but as you point out, the local politicians clearly lack the cajones to go that route.

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    They’ve said no for 14 years.

    October 30, 2015 at 6:43 AM #790845
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    [quote=Reality][quote=XBoxBoy][quote=FlyerInHi]If the owners say no to a move, then can’t the city also say no to a stadium?[/quote]

    They could, but as you point out, the local politicians clearly lack the cajones to go that route.

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    They’ve said no for 14 years.[/quote]

    Yes, they’ve said no for 14 years, but if you’ve been paying attention for the last six months or so they’ve totally changed their tune to, “Don’t go we’ll give you anything you want!”

    October 30, 2015 at 6:18 PM #790858
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    [quote=XBoxBoy][quote=Reality][quote=XBoxBoy][quote=FlyerInHi]If the owners say no to a move, then can’t the city also say no to a stadium?[/quote]

    They could, but as you point out, the local politicians clearly lack the cajones to go that route.

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    They’ve said no for 14 years.[/quote]

    Yes, they’ve said no for 14 years, but if you’ve been paying attention for the last six months or so they’ve totally changed their tune to, “Don’t go we’ll give you anything you want!”[/quote]

    Actually I have been paying attention but the question involved the NFL saying no to a move to LA. That would change things.

    November 5, 2015 at 9:19 PM #791043
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    Apparently our illustrious Mayor Faulconer has been on the road meeting with NFL team owners to try and convince them to have the Chargers stay in San Diego.

    On Sept. 30th he was in Boston meeting with Robert Kraft, owner of the New England Patriots, and then went to NYC to meet with New York Giants owner John Mara. On Oct. 1st Faulconer met with NFL commissioner Rodger Goodell and then went to Charlotte, North Carolina, to confer with Jerry Richardson, owner of the Carolina Panthers.

    And if that wasn’t enough, he’s got another meeting with the NFL committee that will decide who relocates to LA on Nov. 11th.

    One can only imagine what giveaways Mayor Faulconer promised in these meetings!

    January 12, 2017 at 11:00 AM #804854
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    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18458717/san-diego-chargers-desperate-move-shot-nfl-vitality-2017

    I doubt it’s over. This story never ends.

    January 12, 2017 at 2:22 PM #804858
    gzz
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    Put Qualcomm up for sale for the highest and best use, which is probably housing. Use the money to cut taxes.

    The only other use I’d support is luring a major tech firm to move their HQ here.

    January 12, 2017 at 3:27 PM #804860
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    The NFL has been struggling lately (too much stuff to do on the interweb LOL).

    Anyway if you live in far north county the drive is about the same either way.

    January 13, 2017 at 3:03 PM #804877
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    As far as I’m concerned, the Chargers and the NFL brought this on themselves, and I’m proud of the region’s citizens for not caving to demands of rich businessmen – “give us what we want or we’re leaving”.

    I can even tell you the moment when public opinion turned, because it was the moment when my opinion shifted.

    In the late 90s the Chargers and the NFL pushed San Diego to expand the stadium. Either expand it, the NFL said, or we’ll move the 1998 Super Bowl. So we as a city caved, added 10,000 seats, gave the Chargers a Sweetheart Deal and got on with life. We felt like we’d been raped, but we kept our chin up and soldiered on. Adding insult to injury was the name change to Qualcomm that was needed to seal the deal.

    Then, just 6 short years later, the NFL was back with their hand out. Just six years! Build us a new stadium, they said, or you’ll never get another Super Bowl.

    That was it. My opinion shifted, as did that of many other people. The cement was barely cured from their last demand, and their hand was in our pocket yet again – it was clear they weren’t going to be satisfied until they had every last cent we owned.

    To our credit we gave them the one finger salute and have continued to do so.

    Please leave our fair city. We don’t need your kind around here.

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