[Dukehorn]

You might have a calculator RO, but your lack of reading comprehension comes through again.

AN said that @$228/ft, which is the “market rate” based on other homes for sale, the price should be $292k.

He then, in a separate post, stated based on the rental income stream, that the house needs to be priced in $200k region.

Not too hard to figure out if you actually read his posts.

[Dukehorn]

I went to school at Duke and at NC State and took classes at UNC. Housing is cheap(er) and if I had to recommend areas, I would go with Cary or Chapel Hill (and there are nicer developments a bit north of downtown Raleigh.

As for outdoorsy stuff, there’s decent mountain biking and plenty of volleyball leagues and a ok ultimate frisbee league, but it does pale in comparison to San Diego.

Chapel Hill is a solid college town with interesting restaurants and alternative music venues. Durham has been gentrified a bit but still has tensions between the university and the community (see Duke lacrosse).

RTP has got a good economy and has a base of well-educated professionals. I’d rather live closer to the major universities because they’d provide some entertainment possibilities, some energy and frankly I think the school districts are better near where the academics live.

just my two cents

[Dukehorn]

I went to school at Duke and at NC State and took classes at UNC. Housing is cheap(er) and if I had to recommend areas, I would go with Cary or Chapel Hill (and there are nicer developments a bit north of downtown Raleigh.

As for outdoorsy stuff, there’s decent mountain biking and plenty of volleyball leagues and a ok ultimate frisbee league, but it does pale in comparison to San Diego.

Chapel Hill is a solid college town with interesting restaurants and alternative music venues. Durham has been gentrified a bit but still has tensions between the university and the community (see Duke lacrosse).

RTP has got a good economy and has a base of well-educated professionals. I’d rather live closer to the major universities because they’d provide some entertainment possibilities, some energy and frankly I think the school districts are better near where the academics live.

just my two cents

[Dukehorn]

I went to school at Duke and at NC State and took classes at UNC. Housing is cheap(er) and if I had to recommend areas, I would go with Cary or Chapel Hill (and there are nicer developments a bit north of downtown Raleigh.

As for outdoorsy stuff, there’s decent mountain biking and plenty of volleyball leagues and a ok ultimate frisbee league, but it does pale in comparison to San Diego.

Chapel Hill is a solid college town with interesting restaurants and alternative music venues. Durham has been gentrified a bit but still has tensions between the university and the community (see Duke lacrosse).

RTP has got a good economy and has a base of well-educated professionals. I’d rather live closer to the major universities because they’d provide some entertainment possibilities, some energy and frankly I think the school districts are better near where the academics live.

just my two cents

[Dukehorn]

I went to school at Duke and at NC State and took classes at UNC. Housing is cheap(er) and if I had to recommend areas, I would go with Cary or Chapel Hill (and there are nicer developments a bit north of downtown Raleigh.

As for outdoorsy stuff, there’s decent mountain biking and plenty of volleyball leagues and a ok ultimate frisbee league, but it does pale in comparison to San Diego.

Chapel Hill is a solid college town with interesting restaurants and alternative music venues. Durham has been gentrified a bit but still has tensions between the university and the community (see Duke lacrosse).

RTP has got a good economy and has a base of well-educated professionals. I’d rather live closer to the major universities because they’d provide some entertainment possibilities, some energy and frankly I think the school districts are better near where the academics live.

just my two cents

[Dukehorn]

I went to school at Duke and at NC State and took classes at UNC. Housing is cheap(er) and if I had to recommend areas, I would go with Cary or Chapel Hill (and there are nicer developments a bit north of downtown Raleigh.

As for outdoorsy stuff, there’s decent mountain biking and plenty of volleyball leagues and a ok ultimate frisbee league, but it does pale in comparison to San Diego.

Chapel Hill is a solid college town with interesting restaurants and alternative music venues. Durham has been gentrified a bit but still has tensions between the university and the community (see Duke lacrosse).

RTP has got a good economy and has a base of well-educated professionals. I’d rather live closer to the major universities because they’d provide some entertainment possibilities, some energy and frankly I think the school districts are better near where the academics live.

just my two cents

[Dukehorn]

Hey Borat.

Never said we didn’t have inequities here. I’ve worked with the Peace Corps and Teach for America so I know. Also, when I’m backpacking in South America, I’m not staying in “gated communities”. As for Enron, that’s why Sarbanes Oxley was passed, right?

Totally disingenous to compare the SEC and our policies to what’s going on in China.

As for Pro China man.

What gives China the right to prevent the Taiwanese from self-determination? What makes you think Taiwan should be part of China if most of Taiwan doesn’t want to be? Taiwan has been a struggling democracy for 40 years and developed its industry separately from the communist government.

There’s a big gap between the Taiwanese in the US and the Chinese in the US. Most of the Taiwanese here are US citizens first. A lot of the Chinese here root for China over the US. I’m won’t even go into the psychology behind it.

Also, I never said China couldn’t or shouldn’t develop its military. It is its own sovereign state. My statement is the Chinese military, esp. its navy, is being developed solely to oppose US military influence. That’s fine if you’re a Chinese citizen. If you’re a US citizen, you should be concerned. And if you root for China in a military buildup over the US, give up your citizenship here and go back.

Nice avoidance of the piracy and environmental issues. If your relatives are doing well in China, you know there are some very greased palms there, but feel free to ignore it as a homer.

[Dukehorn]

Hey Borat.

Never said we didn’t have inequities here. I’ve worked with the Peace Corps and Teach for America so I know. Also, when I’m backpacking in South America, I’m not staying in “gated communities”. As for Enron, that’s why Sarbanes Oxley was passed, right?

Totally disingenous to compare the SEC and our policies to what’s going on in China.

As for Pro China man.

What gives China the right to prevent the Taiwanese from self-determination? What makes you think Taiwan should be part of China if most of Taiwan doesn’t want to be? Taiwan has been a struggling democracy for 40 years and developed its industry separately from the communist government.

There’s a big gap between the Taiwanese in the US and the Chinese in the US. Most of the Taiwanese here are US citizens first. A lot of the Chinese here root for China over the US. I’m won’t even go into the psychology behind it.

Also, I never said China couldn’t or shouldn’t develop its military. It is its own sovereign state. My statement is the Chinese military, esp. its navy, is being developed solely to oppose US military influence. That’s fine if you’re a Chinese citizen. If you’re a US citizen, you should be concerned. And if you root for China in a military buildup over the US, give up your citizenship here and go back.

Nice avoidance of the piracy and environmental issues. If your relatives are doing well in China, you know there are some very greased palms there, but feel free to ignore it as a homer.

[Dukehorn]

Hey Borat.

Never said we didn’t have inequities here. I’ve worked with the Peace Corps and Teach for America so I know. Also, when I’m backpacking in South America, I’m not staying in “gated communities”. As for Enron, that’s why Sarbanes Oxley was passed, right?

Totally disingenous to compare the SEC and our policies to what’s going on in China.

As for Pro China man.

What gives China the right to prevent the Taiwanese from self-determination? What makes you think Taiwan should be part of China if most of Taiwan doesn’t want to be? Taiwan has been a struggling democracy for 40 years and developed its industry separately from the communist government.

There’s a big gap between the Taiwanese in the US and the Chinese in the US. Most of the Taiwanese here are US citizens first. A lot of the Chinese here root for China over the US. I’m won’t even go into the psychology behind it.

Also, I never said China couldn’t or shouldn’t develop its military. It is its own sovereign state. My statement is the Chinese military, esp. its navy, is being developed solely to oppose US military influence. That’s fine if you’re a Chinese citizen. If you’re a US citizen, you should be concerned. And if you root for China in a military buildup over the US, give up your citizenship here and go back.

Nice avoidance of the piracy and environmental issues. If your relatives are doing well in China, you know there are some very greased palms there, but feel free to ignore it as a homer.

[Dukehorn]

I’m astonished at this post. I feel poor coming back from Europe even though they pay up the nose in taxes. We’re 2:1 vs the pound and 1:1 vs the Canadian dollar (as an example for folks who haven’t been to Europe recently).

Just because China is like Russia, where the well-connected are becoming filthy rich and there’s a sprawling underclass is no reason to be “jealous” unless you’re one of elite.

I wouldn’t even try to equate ourselves with China. Do you have a good sense of how much corruption is going on over there and how much background poverty you are not seeing? Beijing is doing its makeover before the Olympics. They’re kicking out and hiding the poor.

From an economic viewpoint, it is easy to compete when you flaunt IP laws. Taiwan and Korea have gotten to the point that they want to protect their RnD as oppose to pirating it. The fact that China does not enforce its economic laws is not a reason to be jealous. If (and its a big if) they get to the point of commercializing their RnD, they’ll start feeling the pain of turning a blind eye to piracy over the last 15 years.

If you want to be jealous of a crowded, dirty city with no environmental protections, where the IOC in fact just publicly announced that they are worried about the health of the Olympic athletes for the next Summer games, it’s your right.

I told my extended family that I have absolutely no interest in wasting my vacation time in visiting relatives in China when I can be hiking down in Peru or Ecuador and not be caught up by the crass commercialism and culture of excess that you currently see over there.

Also, what does pro-China mean? You support a country that censors the internet and still cracks down on dissidents? A country that claims another country (Taiwan) where the people generally have no interest in becoming part of the mainland. A country that claims that the Dalai Lama is a terrorist? A country that recently bought sub technology from Russia for the express purpose of killing US aircraft carriers?

A country where businessmen have to have mistresses in order to be successful? (well some of my old classmates do)

Get real.

Sorry, I get passionate about this topic. Heck, my parents still go to protests at the UN over this stuff.

[Dukehorn]

I’m astonished at this post. I feel poor coming back from Europe even though they pay up the nose in taxes. We’re 2:1 vs the pound and 1:1 vs the Canadian dollar (as an example for folks who haven’t been to Europe recently).

Just because China is like Russia, where the well-connected are becoming filthy rich and there’s a sprawling underclass is no reason to be “jealous” unless you’re one of elite.

I wouldn’t even try to equate ourselves with China. Do you have a good sense of how much corruption is going on over there and how much background poverty you are not seeing? Beijing is doing its makeover before the Olympics. They’re kicking out and hiding the poor.

From an economic viewpoint, it is easy to compete when you flaunt IP laws. Taiwan and Korea have gotten to the point that they want to protect their RnD as oppose to pirating it. The fact that China does not enforce its economic laws is not a reason to be jealous. If (and its a big if) they get to the point of commercializing their RnD, they’ll start feeling the pain of turning a blind eye to piracy over the last 15 years.

If you want to be jealous of a crowded, dirty city with no environmental protections, where the IOC in fact just publicly announced that they are worried about the health of the Olympic athletes for the next Summer games, it’s your right.

I told my extended family that I have absolutely no interest in wasting my vacation time in visiting relatives in China when I can be hiking down in Peru or Ecuador and not be caught up by the crass commercialism and culture of excess that you currently see over there.

Also, what does pro-China mean? You support a country that censors the internet and still cracks down on dissidents? A country that claims another country (Taiwan) where the people generally have no interest in becoming part of the mainland. A country that claims that the Dalai Lama is a terrorist? A country that recently bought sub technology from Russia for the express purpose of killing US aircraft carriers?

A country where businessmen have to have mistresses in order to be successful? (well some of my old classmates do)

Get real.

Sorry, I get passionate about this topic. Heck, my parents still go to protests at the UN over this stuff.

[Dukehorn]

I’m astonished at this post. I feel poor coming back from Europe even though they pay up the nose in taxes. We’re 2:1 vs the pound and 1:1 vs the Canadian dollar (as an example for folks who haven’t been to Europe recently).

Just because China is like Russia, where the well-connected are becoming filthy rich and there’s a sprawling underclass is no reason to be “jealous” unless you’re one of elite.

I wouldn’t even try to equate ourselves with China. Do you have a good sense of how much corruption is going on over there and how much background poverty you are not seeing? Beijing is doing its makeover before the Olympics. They’re kicking out and hiding the poor.

From an economic viewpoint, it is easy to compete when you flaunt IP laws. Taiwan and Korea have gotten to the point that they want to protect their RnD as oppose to pirating it. The fact that China does not enforce its economic laws is not a reason to be jealous. If (and its a big if) they get to the point of commercializing their RnD, they’ll start feeling the pain of turning a blind eye to piracy over the last 15 years.

If you want to be jealous of a crowded, dirty city with no environmental protections, where the IOC in fact just publicly announced that they are worried about the health of the Olympic athletes for the next Summer games, it’s your right.

I told my extended family that I have absolutely no interest in wasting my vacation time in visiting relatives in China when I can be hiking down in Peru or Ecuador and not be caught up by the crass commercialism and culture of excess that you currently see over there.

Also, what does pro-China mean? You support a country that censors the internet and still cracks down on dissidents? A country that claims another country (Taiwan) where the people generally have no interest in becoming part of the mainland. A country that claims that the Dalai Lama is a terrorist? A country that recently bought sub technology from Russia for the express purpose of killing US aircraft carriers?

A country where businessmen have to have mistresses in order to be successful? (well some of my old classmates do)

Get real.

Sorry, I get passionate about this topic. Heck, my parents still go to protests at the UN over this stuff.

[Dukehorn]

Woohoo, 4sbuyer has sprinkler heads in his/her home. Hallelujah. Work on lowering that fire insurance baby, I’m fireproof!! Don’t matter if I built on scrubland in the desert, I’ve got sprinklers!

Oh for heaven’s sake, I don’t know why you are trolling but I’m amused enough to respond. Please note this comment from your initial link:

“Shelter in place doesn’t change the fact you’re building in a danger zone,”

Shelter in place gives you added protection if you can’t make it out in an evacuation, but how many of us are going to take the risk of staying pat when a firestorm is coming over the hill.

Stop being a shill. 4S Ranch isn’t some ardent arborial setting. It is a set of very closely situated detached (sometimes not) homes that aren’t very attractive that WAS a decent pricepoint for families that couldn’t afford the coast. The developments are entirely characterless. The initial attraction (and I’m Asian) for a lot of the FOB Asian families out there was that they want something “new”. I’ve never entirely understood this mentality, esp. regarding homes in this day and age, but “brand new” is good (when it just means the construction is cheap). When the development gets older, that demographic will not be willing to buy into 4S and all that Hong Kong seed money will be going elsewhere.

The area is dry and hot. I personally favored a smaller mesa view home in Claremont Mesa, but got overruled (the argument about location and view lost against newness).

It’s a pretty decent place for road biking and you have access to the mountain biking down in Rancho Penasquitos so I have fun in the area, but I don’t have pretenses about the pricing of my home.

[Dukehorn]

Woohoo, 4sbuyer has sprinkler heads in his/her home. Hallelujah. Work on lowering that fire insurance baby, I’m fireproof!! Don’t matter if I built on scrubland in the desert, I’ve got sprinklers!

Oh for heaven’s sake, I don’t know why you are trolling but I’m amused enough to respond. Please note this comment from your initial link:

“Shelter in place doesn’t change the fact you’re building in a danger zone,”

Shelter in place gives you added protection if you can’t make it out in an evacuation, but how many of us are going to take the risk of staying pat when a firestorm is coming over the hill.

Stop being a shill. 4S Ranch isn’t some ardent arborial setting. It is a set of very closely situated detached (sometimes not) homes that aren’t very attractive that WAS a decent pricepoint for families that couldn’t afford the coast. The developments are entirely characterless. The initial attraction (and I’m Asian) for a lot of the FOB Asian families out there was that they want something “new”. I’ve never entirely understood this mentality, esp. regarding homes in this day and age, but “brand new” is good (when it just means the construction is cheap). When the development gets older, that demographic will not be willing to buy into 4S and all that Hong Kong seed money will be going elsewhere.

The area is dry and hot. I personally favored a smaller mesa view home in Claremont Mesa, but got overruled (the argument about location and view lost against newness).

It’s a pretty decent place for road biking and you have access to the mountain biking down in Rancho Penasquitos so I have fun in the area, but I don’t have pretenses about the pricing of my home.

[Dukehorn]

Woohoo, 4sbuyer has sprinkler heads in his/her home. Hallelujah. Work on lowering that fire insurance baby, I’m fireproof!! Don’t matter if I built on scrubland in the desert, I’ve got sprinklers!

Oh for heaven’s sake, I don’t know why you are trolling but I’m amused enough to respond. Please note this comment from your initial link:

“Shelter in place doesn’t change the fact you’re building in a danger zone,”

Shelter in place gives you added protection if you can’t make it out in an evacuation, but how many of us are going to take the risk of staying pat when a firestorm is coming over the hill.

Stop being a shill. 4S Ranch isn’t some ardent arborial setting. It is a set of very closely situated detached (sometimes not) homes that aren’t very attractive that WAS a decent pricepoint for families that couldn’t afford the coast. The developments are entirely characterless. The initial attraction (and I’m Asian) for a lot of the FOB Asian families out there was that they want something “new”. I’ve never entirely understood this mentality, esp. regarding homes in this day and age, but “brand new” is good (when it just means the construction is cheap). When the development gets older, that demographic will not be willing to buy into 4S and all that Hong Kong seed money will be going elsewhere.

The area is dry and hot. I personally favored a smaller mesa view home in Claremont Mesa, but got overruled (the argument about location and view lost against newness).

It’s a pretty decent place for road biking and you have access to the mountain biking down in Rancho Penasquitos so I have fun in the area, but I don’t have pretenses about the pricing of my home.

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