4 closure Ranch errr scratch that “Fire proof” Ranch = new nickname for 4S Ranch

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

If 4S is less likely to burn than other places people will be more likley to buy here

Barrio Logan is pretty fire proof. I don’t see people flocking there to prop up home values.

[bsrsharma]

Looking at the firemaps, it appears Carlsbad-Oceanside-Vista area was pretty safe. I think these areas are sufficiently near the coast and away from dry brush to be considered safe from catastrophic fire storms. If you are afraid of firestorms, that may help.

[bsrsharma]

Looking at the firemaps, it appears Carlsbad-Oceanside-Vista area was pretty safe. I think these areas are sufficiently near the coast and away from dry brush to be considered safe from catastrophic fire storms. If you are afraid of firestorms, that may help.

[bsrsharma]

Looking at the firemaps, it appears Carlsbad-Oceanside-Vista area was pretty safe. I think these areas are sufficiently near the coast and away from dry brush to be considered safe from catastrophic fire storms. If you are afraid of firestorms, that may help.

[4Sbuyer2002]

http://www.rsf-fire.org/assets/documents/news/news_releases/2005/100605%20Cayenne%20Creek%20Fire.pdf

“The Fire District encourages the use of sprinklers and other preparedness measures as a means of promoting fire-safe communities.” (Their words not mine)

Another fine example of the fire resistant technology built into 4S Ranch homes and how it gives added protection from fire compared to other homes and other communities in San Diego (even if you have a hair brained home owner throwing burning cigarrete butts onto flammable material in his garage). 4S homes are all separately plumbed with their own fire sprinkler system which is pressurized and distinct from the normal plumbing (I’m sure this cost me a small fortune). The water supply to the sprinkler systems is prioritized at the same level as the fire hydrants on the street. There are dozens of fire sprinklers on the cieling throughout my house including 4 sprinklers in the attic suspended just below the roof and a sprinkler outside of the front door (presumably to give a sprinkler protected escape route through the front door).

“The sprinkler definitely saved this home, and possibly the lives of those in the home,” said Captain Fred Cox, who responded to the call. “If there had not been a working sprinkler system in place, the fire would have spread very rapidly before anyone inside noticed. By that time, it would have been difficult to save the home and those inside could have been severely injured.”

. . .

“This is the fourth time in the last two years that sprinklers have extinguished a structure fire within the RSFFPD. In each scenario, the heat from the fire activated the nearest sprinkler head, immediately dousing the flames with water, minimizing property loss and injuries.”

Read . . . normal home burns to ground with potential loss of life. Same situation 4S Ranch home = $500 damage to the junk in your garage and a singed hand. Thats the difference between 4S Ranch and other homes not built with the same technology.

grateful owner . . . .

[4Sbuyer2002]

http://www.rsf-fire.org/assets/documents/news/news_releases/2005/100605%20Cayenne%20Creek%20Fire.pdf

“The Fire District encourages the use of sprinklers and other preparedness measures as a means of promoting fire-safe communities.” (Their words not mine)

Another fine example of the fire resistant technology built into 4S Ranch homes and how it gives added protection from fire compared to other homes and other communities in San Diego (even if you have a hair brained home owner throwing burning cigarrete butts onto flammable material in his garage). 4S homes are all separately plumbed with their own fire sprinkler system which is pressurized and distinct from the normal plumbing (I’m sure this cost me a small fortune). The water supply to the sprinkler systems is prioritized at the same level as the fire hydrants on the street. There are dozens of fire sprinklers on the cieling throughout my house including 4 sprinklers in the attic suspended just below the roof and a sprinkler outside of the front door (presumably to give a sprinkler protected escape route through the front door).

“The sprinkler definitely saved this home, and possibly the lives of those in the home,” said Captain Fred Cox, who responded to the call. “If there had not been a working sprinkler system in place, the fire would have spread very rapidly before anyone inside noticed. By that time, it would have been difficult to save the home and those inside could have been severely injured.”

. . .

“This is the fourth time in the last two years that sprinklers have extinguished a structure fire within the RSFFPD. In each scenario, the heat from the fire activated the nearest sprinkler head, immediately dousing the flames with water, minimizing property loss and injuries.”

Read . . . normal home burns to ground with potential loss of life. Same situation 4S Ranch home = $500 damage to the junk in your garage and a singed hand. Thats the difference between 4S Ranch and other homes not built with the same technology.

grateful owner . . . .

[4Sbuyer2002]

http://www.rsf-fire.org/assets/documents/news/news_releases/2005/100605%20Cayenne%20Creek%20Fire.pdf

“The Fire District encourages the use of sprinklers and other preparedness measures as a means of promoting fire-safe communities.” (Their words not mine)

Another fine example of the fire resistant technology built into 4S Ranch homes and how it gives added protection from fire compared to other homes and other communities in San Diego (even if you have a hair brained home owner throwing burning cigarrete butts onto flammable material in his garage). 4S homes are all separately plumbed with their own fire sprinkler system which is pressurized and distinct from the normal plumbing (I’m sure this cost me a small fortune). The water supply to the sprinkler systems is prioritized at the same level as the fire hydrants on the street. There are dozens of fire sprinklers on the cieling throughout my house including 4 sprinklers in the attic suspended just below the roof and a sprinkler outside of the front door (presumably to give a sprinkler protected escape route through the front door).

“The sprinkler definitely saved this home, and possibly the lives of those in the home,” said Captain Fred Cox, who responded to the call. “If there had not been a working sprinkler system in place, the fire would have spread very rapidly before anyone inside noticed. By that time, it would have been difficult to save the home and those inside could have been severely injured.”

. . .

“This is the fourth time in the last two years that sprinklers have extinguished a structure fire within the RSFFPD. In each scenario, the heat from the fire activated the nearest sprinkler head, immediately dousing the flames with water, minimizing property loss and injuries.”

Read . . . normal home burns to ground with potential loss of life. Same situation 4S Ranch home = $500 damage to the junk in your garage and a singed hand. Thats the difference between 4S Ranch and other homes not built with the same technology.

grateful owner . . . .

[Dukehorn]

Woohoo, 4sbuyer has sprinkler heads in his/her home. Hallelujah. Work on lowering that fire insurance baby, I’m fireproof!! Don’t matter if I built on scrubland in the desert, I’ve got sprinklers!

Oh for heaven’s sake, I don’t know why you are trolling but I’m amused enough to respond. Please note this comment from your initial link:

“Shelter in place doesn’t change the fact you’re building in a danger zone,”

Shelter in place gives you added protection if you can’t make it out in an evacuation, but how many of us are going to take the risk of staying pat when a firestorm is coming over the hill.

Stop being a shill. 4S Ranch isn’t some ardent arborial setting. It is a set of very closely situated detached (sometimes not) homes that aren’t very attractive that WAS a decent pricepoint for families that couldn’t afford the coast. The developments are entirely characterless. The initial attraction (and I’m Asian) for a lot of the FOB Asian families out there was that they want something “new”. I’ve never entirely understood this mentality, esp. regarding homes in this day and age, but “brand new” is good (when it just means the construction is cheap). When the development gets older, that demographic will not be willing to buy into 4S and all that Hong Kong seed money will be going elsewhere.

The area is dry and hot. I personally favored a smaller mesa view home in Claremont Mesa, but got overruled (the argument about location and view lost against newness).

It’s a pretty decent place for road biking and you have access to the mountain biking down in Rancho Penasquitos so I have fun in the area, but I don’t have pretenses about the pricing of my home.

[Dukehorn]

Woohoo, 4sbuyer has sprinkler heads in his/her home. Hallelujah. Work on lowering that fire insurance baby, I’m fireproof!! Don’t matter if I built on scrubland in the desert, I’ve got sprinklers!

Oh for heaven’s sake, I don’t know why you are trolling but I’m amused enough to respond. Please note this comment from your initial link:

“Shelter in place doesn’t change the fact you’re building in a danger zone,”

Shelter in place gives you added protection if you can’t make it out in an evacuation, but how many of us are going to take the risk of staying pat when a firestorm is coming over the hill.

Stop being a shill. 4S Ranch isn’t some ardent arborial setting. It is a set of very closely situated detached (sometimes not) homes that aren’t very attractive that WAS a decent pricepoint for families that couldn’t afford the coast. The developments are entirely characterless. The initial attraction (and I’m Asian) for a lot of the FOB Asian families out there was that they want something “new”. I’ve never entirely understood this mentality, esp. regarding homes in this day and age, but “brand new” is good (when it just means the construction is cheap). When the development gets older, that demographic will not be willing to buy into 4S and all that Hong Kong seed money will be going elsewhere.

The area is dry and hot. I personally favored a smaller mesa view home in Claremont Mesa, but got overruled (the argument about location and view lost against newness).

It’s a pretty decent place for road biking and you have access to the mountain biking down in Rancho Penasquitos so I have fun in the area, but I don’t have pretenses about the pricing of my home.

[Dukehorn]

Woohoo, 4sbuyer has sprinkler heads in his/her home. Hallelujah. Work on lowering that fire insurance baby, I’m fireproof!! Don’t matter if I built on scrubland in the desert, I’ve got sprinklers!

Oh for heaven’s sake, I don’t know why you are trolling but I’m amused enough to respond. Please note this comment from your initial link:

“Shelter in place doesn’t change the fact you’re building in a danger zone,”

Shelter in place gives you added protection if you can’t make it out in an evacuation, but how many of us are going to take the risk of staying pat when a firestorm is coming over the hill.

Stop being a shill. 4S Ranch isn’t some ardent arborial setting. It is a set of very closely situated detached (sometimes not) homes that aren’t very attractive that WAS a decent pricepoint for families that couldn’t afford the coast. The developments are entirely characterless. The initial attraction (and I’m Asian) for a lot of the FOB Asian families out there was that they want something “new”. I’ve never entirely understood this mentality, esp. regarding homes in this day and age, but “brand new” is good (when it just means the construction is cheap). When the development gets older, that demographic will not be willing to buy into 4S and all that Hong Kong seed money will be going elsewhere.

The area is dry and hot. I personally favored a smaller mesa view home in Claremont Mesa, but got overruled (the argument about location and view lost against newness).

It’s a pretty decent place for road biking and you have access to the mountain biking down in Rancho Penasquitos so I have fun in the area, but I don’t have pretenses about the pricing of my home.

[lindismith]

So now we know: 4closure ranch homes have a better chance of making it if there’s another big fire. Great. Just the type of information buyers need to know. But honestly, until this major emergency, 4closure ranch was just as it’s nickname so aptly states.

That whole community is still going to lose a ton of equity in the coming years. And counting on national disasters to help keep that equity alive is completely bird-brained at the least.

[lindismith]

So now we know: 4closure ranch homes have a better chance of making it if there’s another big fire. Great. Just the type of information buyers need to know. But honestly, until this major emergency, 4closure ranch was just as it’s nickname so aptly states.

That whole community is still going to lose a ton of equity in the coming years. And counting on national disasters to help keep that equity alive is completely bird-brained at the least.

[lindismith]

So now we know: 4closure ranch homes have a better chance of making it if there’s another big fire. Great. Just the type of information buyers need to know. But honestly, until this major emergency, 4closure ranch was just as it’s nickname so aptly states.

That whole community is still going to lose a ton of equity in the coming years. And counting on national disasters to help keep that equity alive is completely bird-brained at the least.

[bsrsharma]

Why do I sense so much animosity towards 4Sbuyer’s suggestion that those homes have been built better for fire resistance? Anyone who knows about commercial buildings is aware of all those techniques – avoid using combustible building materials, install sprinkler system, better fire/smoke/heat alarm than the home depot kind etc., It makes no sense at all that people buy million $ homes without basic fire resistance that would cost at most 10% more if designed and built right at the time of construction. Using steel & concrete framing would hardly cost anymore than wood framing and that itself would keep a home from collapsing with the first embers.

[bsrsharma]

Why do I sense so much animosity towards 4Sbuyer’s suggestion that those homes have been built better for fire resistance? Anyone who knows about commercial buildings is aware of all those techniques – avoid using combustible building materials, install sprinkler system, better fire/smoke/heat alarm than the home depot kind etc., It makes no sense at all that people buy million $ homes without basic fire resistance that would cost at most 10% more if designed and built right at the time of construction. Using steel & concrete framing would hardly cost anymore than wood framing and that itself would keep a home from collapsing with the first embers.

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