Where are the Trump Yard signs

[bearishgurl]

[quote=SK in CV][quote=bearishgurl]I don’t believe he called her those names. Can you point me to a video where he states he called her those names? Yes, her crimes in another country WERE pertinent when she was seeking US citizenship. It sounds like the INS once again fell down on the job. It wouldn’t be the first time and it won’t be the last.

The subject of “rape” has absolutely nothing to do with anything we have been discussing on this thread. That subject is just an example of a zinger you like to throw out at Piggs who disagree with you.[/quote]

She has made the claim. He hasn’t denied it. He’s made excuses for doing it.

What crimes? I don’t know anything about any crimes.

The rape analogy is pertinent. You’ve shown you have no problem blaming victims, particularly when they’re women.[/quote]Please point the dear pigg readers to a video of Trump “making excuses” for calling Machado names.

Machado is far from being a “victim.” She wasn’t a victim in 1997 and she isn’t one now. She is an opportunist. She does whatever she gets paid for . . . including posing nude for (at least) Playboy, allegedly making porn films (I haven’t personally investigated this) and attempting to smear DJT’s character after being paid handsomely by HRC’s campaign. She’s even been working for the campaign!

[bearishgurl]

[quote=SK in CV]…What crimes? I don’t know anything about any crimes….[/quote]SK, it has become quite clear that you haven’t get viewed the Cooper interview with Machado. Get busy!

[zk]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=SK in CV]…What crimes? I don’t know anything about any crimes….[/quote]SK, it has become quite clear that you haven’t get viewed the Cooper interview with Machado. Get busy![/quote]

Said the woman who obviously hasn’t watched it either (or who… big surprise… lied about what was in it).

[zk]

[quote=bearishgurl] Last night I watched 2 videos (one lengthy) where Anderson Cooper of CNN asked her point blank if Trump had called her “Miss Piggy” and “Miss Housekeeping.” She deflected the question

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2i63x6Ga2w

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What?

Watch it again, starting at 4:06.

Cooper: “The Trump campaign is denying that he called you ‘Miss Piggy’ or ‘Miss Housekeeping.’ You’re saying, point blank, he said that to your face?”

Machado: “Yes, all the time.”

She answered it immediately and directly. Emphatically, even. That’s about as far from deflecting the question as you can get.

[Anonymous]

Here’s your boy:

Did Crooked Hillary help disgusting (check out sex tape and past) Alicia M become a U.S. citizen so she could use her in the debate?

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 30, 2016

And he calls the nominee for the other party, former US Senator and Secretary of State, “Crooked Hillary”

There’s no precedent for anything like this. Not even close.

[SK in CV]

[quote=bearishgurl]
Machado is far from being a “victim.” She wasn’t a victim in 1997 and she isn’t one now. She is an opportunist. She does whatever she gets paid for . . . including posing nude for (at least) Playboy, allegedly making porn films (I haven’t personally investigated this) and attempting to smear DJT’s character after being paid handsomely by HRC’s campaign. She’s even been working for the campaign![/quote]

Fox morning show, the morning after the debate, he said she was “a real problem” and “had gained an enormous amount of weight”. The three stooges hosts all cringed.

I don’t know that she was paid by the Clinton campaign. And neither do you. She has claimed that Trump never paid her what she earned as Miss Universe. There is no porn film. Nor any crime she’s been convicted of in Mexico that I can find. And what do those things have to do with blaming the victim? He called her Miss Piggy. He called her Miss Housekeeping. You think those are ok? Are there really mitigating circumstances that happen 20 years later? You’re really ok with Trump smearing her for being his victim of abuse? I guess you are, you don’t have any problem smearing her for being a victim. Or Hillary Clinton for having a cheating husband. Or probably rape victims.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=SK in CV][quote=bearishgurl]
Machado is far from being a “victim.” She wasn’t a victim in 1997 and she isn’t one now. She is an opportunist. She does whatever she gets paid for . . . including posing nude for (at least) Playboy, allegedly making porn films (I haven’t personally investigated this) and attempting to smear DJT’s character after being paid handsomely by HRC’s campaign. She’s even been working for the campaign![/quote]

Fox morning show, the morning after the debate, he said she was “a real problem” and “had gained an enormous amount of weight”. The three stooges hosts all cringed.

I don’t know that she was paid by the Clinton campaign. And neither do you. She has claimed that Trump never paid her what she earned as Miss Universe. There is no porn film. Nor any crime she’s been convicted of in Mexico that I can find. And what do those things have to do with blaming the victim? He called her Miss Piggy. He called her Miss Housekeeping. You think those are ok? Are there really mitigating circumstances that happen 20 years later? You’re really ok with Trump smearing her for being his victim of abuse? I guess you are, you don’t have any problem smearing her for being a victim. Or Hillary Clinton for having a cheating husband. Or probably rape victims.[/quote]zk, I did watch Cooper’s interview again where he fed her those two insults and asked her if DJT called her that. After a long pause, she said, “yes he did, all the time,” but she couldn’t come up with any witnesses who heard DJT say that “all the time” or at any time in the Kelly interview. I seriously doubt DJT and Machado were ever alone together for any significant period of time, lol. I just saw her at the end of the interview admit that her “daughter was born in the US and that’s why I’m here, now,” or something to that effect. That explains everything . . . she got her US citizenship based upon having an “anchor baby.”

She apparently didn’t end up being charged for driving a getaway car for her “boyfriend” who was committing a crime or the fact that she threatened a judge’s life in SA. But she ADMITTED TO ALL OF IT in the video.

Again, Machado was never a “victim.” Trump undoubtedly spent tens of thousands of dollars on her to help her slim down after she ballooned to 165+ lbs shortly after being crowned Miss Universe (and he had just purchased the franchise) and she was grateful to him for helping her at the time. Any other owner of the pageant would likely have just replaced her with the runner-up, as Trump should have. She used her former title to springboard herself into her nude Playboy spread and porn films.

One can’t expect to be a (beauty) pageant winner or model and continue to get jobs/engagements if they haven’t lived up to the job’s expectations . . . that is, the job they took on was based 90% on their “looks,” which they let go to ^&*%. That’s just how it is.

Machado isn’t going to get the sympathy of voters. They’re beyond fed up with the whiner/victim mentality that is so prevalent in the “PC culture” of today.

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I must step out for an appt. Back later to engage this very interesting debate!

[flu]

[quote=SK in CV][quote=bearishgurl]
Machado is far from being a “victim.” She wasn’t a victim in 1997 and she isn’t one now. She is an opportunist. She does whatever she gets paid for . . . including posing nude for (at least) Playboy, allegedly making porn films (I haven’t personally investigated this) and attempting to smear DJT’s character after being paid handsomely by HRC’s campaign. She’s even been working for the campaign![/quote]

Fox morning show, the morning after the debate, he said she was “a real problem” and “had gained an enormous amount of weight”. The three stooges hosts all cringed.

I don’t know that she was paid by the Clinton campaign. And neither do you. She has claimed that Trump never paid her what she earned as Miss Universe. There is no porn film. Nor any crime she’s been convicted of in Mexico that I can find. And what do those things have to do with blaming the victim? He called her Miss Piggy. He called her Miss Housekeeping. You think those are ok? Are there really mitigating circumstances that happen 20 years later? You’re really ok with Trump smearing her for being his victim of abuse? I guess you are, you don’t have any problem smearing her for being a victim. Or Hillary Clinton for having a cheating husband. Or probably rape victims.[/quote]

I am.trying to understand BGs logic that even if Machado did pose nude or was a prostitute (which there has been no proof of, similar to there was no proof that Trump’s wife was a prostitute as some had claimed), how that would change anything about her being a victim. Are you saying it’s ok to victimize people who pose nude or prostitutes?

Its a sad state of affairs when people get wrapped up into trying to discredit a woman end up using vile things like accusing the woman of being a slut or hooker.

It’s even more appalling when women do this to other women
I think things have sunk to a new low, which I didn’t think was possible.

[SK in CV]

[quote=bearishgurl]
Machado isn’t going to get the sympathy of voters. They’re beyond fed up with the whiner/victim mentality that is so prevalent in the “PC culture” of today.

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I must step out for an appt. Back later to engage this very interesting debate![/quote]

Actually, yes she is going to get the sympathy of particularly women voters. most women don’t approve of fat shaming or slut shaming. Unlike you, they don’t blame victims. The results are already showing in the polls.

With the latest reveals about his illegal foundation operations, along with his violation of federal laws for doing business in Cuba, he’s sealed his fate.

[zk]

[quote=bearishgurl]

zk, I did watch Cooper’s interview again where he fed her those two insults and asked her if DJT called her that. After a long pause, she said, “yes he did, all the time,”[/quote]

Obviously you’re aware that there’s a time lag between when we hear Cooper and when Machado does. It happens any time there’s an interview via satellite. That’s why those interviews frequently involve people talking over each other. She didn’t pause at all, let alone for a long time.

In any case, she did not deflect the question, as you falsely claimed.

[SK in CV]

Well, well, well……what’s good for the only slightly overweight cheetoh with a comb over….

It seems Mr. Trump appeared in an actual porn film.

Not surprising to anyone, he has a very small….some people say he has a very tiny, part.

I guess that makes him a not very reliable ….I don’t know, what does Donald Trump appearing in an actual porn film mean?

https://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/donald-trump-appeared-in-a-2000-playboy-softcore-porn?utm_term=.bfDDQbvJB#.nkX8kZLE5

[Anonymous]

[quote=bearishgurl]Machado isn’t going to get the sympathy of voters. They’re beyond fed up with the whiner/victim mentality that is so prevalent in the “PC culture” of today.[/quote]

The whiners are out of control – some even complain when they can’t take a nap on the chaise lounge during business hours!

[Rich Toscano]

[quote=flu-redux]I am trying to understand BGs logic[/quote]

Let me stop you right there…

[bearishgurl]

[quote=SK in CV][quote=bearishgurl]
Machado isn’t going to get the sympathy of voters. They’re beyond fed up with the whiner/victim mentality that is so prevalent in the “PC culture” of today.

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I must step out for an appt. Back later to engage this very interesting debate![/quote]

Actually, yes she is going to get the sympathy of particularly women voters. most women don’t approve of fat shaming or slut shaming. Unlike you, they don’t blame victims. The results are already showing in the polls. . . [/quote]SK, between you and your “sidekick” (flu/flu redux/bullishgurl/fat_lazy_union, etc, etc, depending on what day or time it is) who seems to have recently gotten into the habit of following you around here on your coattails, I just want to point out that the words, “slut” and “prostitute” (to describe Machado) were in both of YOUR posts . . . not mine.

The actual word I used to describe Ms. Machado here was “opportunist” and she is not the first opportunist Trump has ever come in contact with throughout his life, nor will she be the last. She was an opportunist in 1997 and she is still one today. She has no proof whatsoever that Trump called her those two names NOR can she produce any. Trump never admitted to calling her those names. What he said to her (and the surrounding media) was in the workout video. None of that stuff could be considered “insults.” And even if they were taken that way by her at the time (she certainly didn’t act like it or show it), what she did was a breach of her contract or at the very least, a breach of the pageant rules and what they were going to do with her was left up to the discretion of the owner/operator. I’ve reviewed pageant “rules” in the past because one of my kids wanted to enter a regional contest at one time (while they were still in middle school) but never did. The rules applied to all ages between 12 to 22 (3 different levels of the pageant). Signing up for a pageant is a little like signing up for the military. If they accept you as a contestant, there are certain rules and if you win the contest in your category (or become the 1st runner up) there are other rules added to that. Winning that 4-yr scholarship, a new vehicle and cash comes with a price! The winner has to actually work for it by adhering to a busy schedule of appearances to represent the organization (esp in National and International Contests, like Machado was involved in). During their one-year reign, the winner’s appearance is not allowed to change appreciably from when they were crowned (adults only – haircut/change of hairstyle excepted). They could not have visible tattoos. They were not allowed to get pregnant. They must get regular dental care. They were not allowed to get married. They could not show up for any official appearances under the influence of drugs or alcohol or visibly hung over. The winner cannot conduct any activities which would reflect negatively on their “moral turpitude” or negatively on the organization (ie, getting drunk in public, sex which became public and scandalous, associating themselves with known gangsters and/or ex-cons, etc. If any of these things occurred with the winner during their reign (even having a long-term illness or injury through no fault of their own), the owners/operators of the organization have the option of placing the 1st runner up into the position for the duration of the reign. That’s why the 4-yr scholarship is held by the organization until the completion of the winner’s one-year reign. The winner must fulfill the duties of their reign first. Essentially, the winner’s life belongs to the organization during the term of their reign . . . just like in the military.

Voluntarily gaining ~65 lbs in 4 months (as Machado did) was NOT fulfilling her duties. She became depressed because she couldn’t fit into her clothes and missed some of her required appearances on behalf of the pageant. This frustrated Trump and the pageant operators because it is assumed that every adult has full control over their weight and is aware of the rules upon entering the pageant.

Machado did not deny on Fox’s Kelly File segment that she had had eating disorders PRIOR to entering the pageant after Kelly cornered her on the subject. She told Kelly that she had to “starve” herself for months to get down to 118 to fit into her pageant gown. She stated, in essence, “a lot of women have trouble with their weight,” as an excuse why she gained 60+ lbs in 4 months almost immediately after she was crowned. It could actually be argued that she entered the contest under false pretenses well-knowing that she had a problem with her weight yo-yo-ing, she had existing eating disorder(s) for which she had not sought treatment for and had little control over her weight from day to day or week to week.

The way I see it, Trump really went over and above his responsibilities to help Machado properly represent the franchise back in the day. After she became a scheduling and public relations nightmare for the franchise, he should have just immediately replaced her with the first runner-up. He would have been well within his rights to do so. I just think he has a soft heart for a lot of women and just does whatever he can to help them through a rough patch in their lives as one of his female (Asian/Guamanian?) longtime employee/speakers testified to at the RNC.

In utter desperation, Clinton was indeed using Machado “for show as a `token Latina'” in attempt to win over the undecided Latino vote. Machado was a willing participant because she is being PAID by the campaign! Hello?? Promises could have also been made to her to give her some kind of a job if Hill gets elected (too bad she likely can’t spell or write English very well, either). She was positively starstruck when she first appeared on CNN with Cooper …. and to a lesser extent, with Fox’s Kelly. She kept flipping her hair and forgetting what she was going to say and repeating herself in her very broken English. She has been trying mightily to put herself out there as a “representative” of the US Latino/Hispanic electorate and that couldn’t be further from the truth. I was told just before I typed this post that Machado is the laughingstock of the “Latinos for Trump” Facebook page (I’m not a member of FB). That is . . . of both women AND men!

Again, Machado was no “victim” . . . that is, unless you want to consider the position HRC placed her in as “victimizing her” solely for her own political purposes. In any case, she was and is an adult who cooperated with everything she was asked to do by both Trump and Clinton.

[Coronita]

[quote=SK in CV]Well, well, well……what’s good for the only slightly overweight cheetoh with a comb over….

It seems Mr. Trump appeared in an actual porn film.

Not surprising to anyone, he has a very small….some people say he has a very tiny, part.

I guess that makes him a not very reliable ….I don’t know, what does Donald Trump appearing in an actual porn film mean?

https://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/donald-trump-appeared-in-a-2000-playboy-softcore-porn?utm_term=.bfDDQbvJB#.nkX8kZLE5%5B/quote%5D

Well there are also 3 accusations that he raped underage girls, which is still pending in court.

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