School test scores… like ’em or not, they’re out for the 2009/2010 year

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl]
I agree with this approach, davelj. I think my last kid is leaning this way due to recently noticing how much “predecessors” have had to pay to live away from home and how long it has taken them to graduate due to work commitments.[/quote]
I don’t know how many hours your kid was working during school, but I was working 20-30/week throughout college and I was still able to finish in 4 years.

[quote=bearishgurl]The GE requirements of the first two years of college can be obtained anywhere and the CC’s are much cheaper (and far less crowded) in these classes than universities. At the end of the day, the ink dries the same color and at the same speed on the university diploma, whether the student spent two years or four years at the university they graduated from. It’s actually faster to do it this way, IMO, due to the agreements UC and CSU have with the CA CC Districts.[/quote]
Although this is true, the one thing you’ll miss out is the college experience of the 1st two years, where you experience the dorm life and making new friends. I missed out on that and I will never be able to experience that. Money can be made later but certain experiences in life only come once.

[davelj]

[quote=AN]I missed out on that and I will never be able to experience that. Money can be made later but certain experiences in life only come once.[/quote]

I “missed out” on this experience as well. Thank the Fates. It looked horrible. A bunch of immature asshats living in cramped quarters… no thanks.

[davelj]

[quote=AN]I missed out on that and I will never be able to experience that. Money can be made later but certain experiences in life only come once.[/quote]

I “missed out” on this experience as well. Thank the Fates. It looked horrible. A bunch of immature asshats living in cramped quarters… no thanks.

[davelj]

[quote=AN]I missed out on that and I will never be able to experience that. Money can be made later but certain experiences in life only come once.[/quote]

I “missed out” on this experience as well. Thank the Fates. It looked horrible. A bunch of immature asshats living in cramped quarters… no thanks.

[davelj]

[quote=AN]I missed out on that and I will never be able to experience that. Money can be made later but certain experiences in life only come once.[/quote]

I “missed out” on this experience as well. Thank the Fates. It looked horrible. A bunch of immature asshats living in cramped quarters… no thanks.

[davelj]

[quote=AN]I missed out on that and I will never be able to experience that. Money can be made later but certain experiences in life only come once.[/quote]

I “missed out” on this experience as well. Thank the Fates. It looked horrible. A bunch of immature asshats living in cramped quarters… no thanks.

[an]

[quote=davelj][quote=AN]I missed out on that and I will never be able to experience that. Money can be made later but certain experiences in life only come once.[/quote]

I “missed out” on this experience as well. Thank the Fates. It looked horrible. A bunch of immature asshats living in cramped quarters… no thanks.[/quote]
I did hang out w/ a lot of my classmates who lived in the dorm, so they would have been my roommates. Now, they’re all working as engineers throughout the US. Although I still probably would not keep in touch w/ most of them, those 2 years is never coming back for me.

[an]

[quote=davelj][quote=AN]I missed out on that and I will never be able to experience that. Money can be made later but certain experiences in life only come once.[/quote]

I “missed out” on this experience as well. Thank the Fates. It looked horrible. A bunch of immature asshats living in cramped quarters… no thanks.[/quote]
I did hang out w/ a lot of my classmates who lived in the dorm, so they would have been my roommates. Now, they’re all working as engineers throughout the US. Although I still probably would not keep in touch w/ most of them, those 2 years is never coming back for me.

[an]

[quote=davelj][quote=AN]I missed out on that and I will never be able to experience that. Money can be made later but certain experiences in life only come once.[/quote]

I “missed out” on this experience as well. Thank the Fates. It looked horrible. A bunch of immature asshats living in cramped quarters… no thanks.[/quote]
I did hang out w/ a lot of my classmates who lived in the dorm, so they would have been my roommates. Now, they’re all working as engineers throughout the US. Although I still probably would not keep in touch w/ most of them, those 2 years is never coming back for me.

[an]

[quote=davelj][quote=AN]I missed out on that and I will never be able to experience that. Money can be made later but certain experiences in life only come once.[/quote]

I “missed out” on this experience as well. Thank the Fates. It looked horrible. A bunch of immature asshats living in cramped quarters… no thanks.[/quote]
I did hang out w/ a lot of my classmates who lived in the dorm, so they would have been my roommates. Now, they’re all working as engineers throughout the US. Although I still probably would not keep in touch w/ most of them, those 2 years is never coming back for me.

[an]

[quote=davelj][quote=AN]I missed out on that and I will never be able to experience that. Money can be made later but certain experiences in life only come once.[/quote]

I “missed out” on this experience as well. Thank the Fates. It looked horrible. A bunch of immature asshats living in cramped quarters… no thanks.[/quote]
I did hang out w/ a lot of my classmates who lived in the dorm, so they would have been my roommates. Now, they’re all working as engineers throughout the US. Although I still probably would not keep in touch w/ most of them, those 2 years is never coming back for me.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=AN]I don’t know how many hours your kid was working during school, but I was working 20-30/week throughout college and I was still able to finish in 4 years.[/quote]

My *current* college kid (almost done and entering 6th yr) is working 32-35 hrs. week and making nearly $40 hr. This one has had to deal with budget issues within the CSU system where classes needed in the 3rd and 4th years to graduate were NOT offered every semester and when offered, were offered at only ONE TIME.

Not sure you had to contend with these issues when you went to college, AN, but it is now the reality in the CSU system in almost every campus but the more *undesireable* ones, such as Merced and Fresno. There is a tradeoff one makes in deciding to attend these more *poorly-located* campuses and that tradeoff is opportunity, connections (for post-college) and wage.

[quote=AN]Although this is true, the one thing you’ll miss out is the college experience of the 1st two years, where you experience the dorm life and making new friends. I missed out on that and I will never be able to experience that. Money can be made later but certain experiences in life only come once.[/quote]

AN, this “dorm life” you speak of is now $1000 or more per month (at CSU campuses) and the student has to be available (not on shift or studying) at certain times of the day to get their “money’s-worth” out of a meal ticket. In addition, the student has to SHARE a (often “substandard”) bedroom and bath, at the very least, with one other student (and oftentimes share a bath with many more).

If the student rents, they are able to get their OWN bedroom and share a bath with one or two other roommates and make their own (cheaper) food at whatever times are convenient for them to eat. The total cost to do this in a VERY high-cost area (full of nearby culture and work opportunities) such as SF is about $750 to $800 mo. (room and board) incl. utils (four tenants to a >2000 sf flat where roommates pool staples and some food).

This scenario also applies to other similar high-cost-area off-campus living arrangements such as near UCLA or UC Santa Cruz. In order for this situation to work, all roommates must be stable and employed. Not ALL roommates would be necessarily students or of a typical “college age.” IMO, this is how your kid learns to become independent.

AN, having only attended CC myself, I’m not familiar with “dorm life” so I’m not sure what it is that you think you “missed.” An extension of childhood, maybe?

[bearishgurl]

[quote=AN]I don’t know how many hours your kid was working during school, but I was working 20-30/week throughout college and I was still able to finish in 4 years.[/quote]

My *current* college kid (almost done and entering 6th yr) is working 32-35 hrs. week and making nearly $40 hr. This one has had to deal with budget issues within the CSU system where classes needed in the 3rd and 4th years to graduate were NOT offered every semester and when offered, were offered at only ONE TIME.

Not sure you had to contend with these issues when you went to college, AN, but it is now the reality in the CSU system in almost every campus but the more *undesireable* ones, such as Merced and Fresno. There is a tradeoff one makes in deciding to attend these more *poorly-located* campuses and that tradeoff is opportunity, connections (for post-college) and wage.

[quote=AN]Although this is true, the one thing you’ll miss out is the college experience of the 1st two years, where you experience the dorm life and making new friends. I missed out on that and I will never be able to experience that. Money can be made later but certain experiences in life only come once.[/quote]

AN, this “dorm life” you speak of is now $1000 or more per month (at CSU campuses) and the student has to be available (not on shift or studying) at certain times of the day to get their “money’s-worth” out of a meal ticket. In addition, the student has to SHARE a (often “substandard”) bedroom and bath, at the very least, with one other student (and oftentimes share a bath with many more).

If the student rents, they are able to get their OWN bedroom and share a bath with one or two other roommates and make their own (cheaper) food at whatever times are convenient for them to eat. The total cost to do this in a VERY high-cost area (full of nearby culture and work opportunities) such as SF is about $750 to $800 mo. (room and board) incl. utils (four tenants to a >2000 sf flat where roommates pool staples and some food).

This scenario also applies to other similar high-cost-area off-campus living arrangements such as near UCLA or UC Santa Cruz. In order for this situation to work, all roommates must be stable and employed. Not ALL roommates would be necessarily students or of a typical “college age.” IMO, this is how your kid learns to become independent.

AN, having only attended CC myself, I’m not familiar with “dorm life” so I’m not sure what it is that you think you “missed.” An extension of childhood, maybe?

[bearishgurl]

[quote=AN]I don’t know how many hours your kid was working during school, but I was working 20-30/week throughout college and I was still able to finish in 4 years.[/quote]

My *current* college kid (almost done and entering 6th yr) is working 32-35 hrs. week and making nearly $40 hr. This one has had to deal with budget issues within the CSU system where classes needed in the 3rd and 4th years to graduate were NOT offered every semester and when offered, were offered at only ONE TIME.

Not sure you had to contend with these issues when you went to college, AN, but it is now the reality in the CSU system in almost every campus but the more *undesireable* ones, such as Merced and Fresno. There is a tradeoff one makes in deciding to attend these more *poorly-located* campuses and that tradeoff is opportunity, connections (for post-college) and wage.

[quote=AN]Although this is true, the one thing you’ll miss out is the college experience of the 1st two years, where you experience the dorm life and making new friends. I missed out on that and I will never be able to experience that. Money can be made later but certain experiences in life only come once.[/quote]

AN, this “dorm life” you speak of is now $1000 or more per month (at CSU campuses) and the student has to be available (not on shift or studying) at certain times of the day to get their “money’s-worth” out of a meal ticket. In addition, the student has to SHARE a (often “substandard”) bedroom and bath, at the very least, with one other student (and oftentimes share a bath with many more).

If the student rents, they are able to get their OWN bedroom and share a bath with one or two other roommates and make their own (cheaper) food at whatever times are convenient for them to eat. The total cost to do this in a VERY high-cost area (full of nearby culture and work opportunities) such as SF is about $750 to $800 mo. (room and board) incl. utils (four tenants to a >2000 sf flat where roommates pool staples and some food).

This scenario also applies to other similar high-cost-area off-campus living arrangements such as near UCLA or UC Santa Cruz. In order for this situation to work, all roommates must be stable and employed. Not ALL roommates would be necessarily students or of a typical “college age.” IMO, this is how your kid learns to become independent.

AN, having only attended CC myself, I’m not familiar with “dorm life” so I’m not sure what it is that you think you “missed.” An extension of childhood, maybe?

[bearishgurl]

[quote=AN]I don’t know how many hours your kid was working during school, but I was working 20-30/week throughout college and I was still able to finish in 4 years.[/quote]

My *current* college kid (almost done and entering 6th yr) is working 32-35 hrs. week and making nearly $40 hr. This one has had to deal with budget issues within the CSU system where classes needed in the 3rd and 4th years to graduate were NOT offered every semester and when offered, were offered at only ONE TIME.

Not sure you had to contend with these issues when you went to college, AN, but it is now the reality in the CSU system in almost every campus but the more *undesireable* ones, such as Merced and Fresno. There is a tradeoff one makes in deciding to attend these more *poorly-located* campuses and that tradeoff is opportunity, connections (for post-college) and wage.

[quote=AN]Although this is true, the one thing you’ll miss out is the college experience of the 1st two years, where you experience the dorm life and making new friends. I missed out on that and I will never be able to experience that. Money can be made later but certain experiences in life only come once.[/quote]

AN, this “dorm life” you speak of is now $1000 or more per month (at CSU campuses) and the student has to be available (not on shift or studying) at certain times of the day to get their “money’s-worth” out of a meal ticket. In addition, the student has to SHARE a (often “substandard”) bedroom and bath, at the very least, with one other student (and oftentimes share a bath with many more).

If the student rents, they are able to get their OWN bedroom and share a bath with one or two other roommates and make their own (cheaper) food at whatever times are convenient for them to eat. The total cost to do this in a VERY high-cost area (full of nearby culture and work opportunities) such as SF is about $750 to $800 mo. (room and board) incl. utils (four tenants to a >2000 sf flat where roommates pool staples and some food).

This scenario also applies to other similar high-cost-area off-campus living arrangements such as near UCLA or UC Santa Cruz. In order for this situation to work, all roommates must be stable and employed. Not ALL roommates would be necessarily students or of a typical “college age.” IMO, this is how your kid learns to become independent.

AN, having only attended CC myself, I’m not familiar with “dorm life” so I’m not sure what it is that you think you “missed.” An extension of childhood, maybe?

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