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August 15, 2010 at 10:09 AM #592137August 15, 2010 at 11:03 AM #591095bearishgurlParticipant
[quote=UCGal]. . . Another example with a twist… family member in his early 50’s who had an MBA – gets his PhD in business. He’s a road warrier consultant – so it did raise his hourly rate. But it was done more for other reasons… life goal was to get a PhD. Didn’t take out student loans.
The first examples- they were all young enough to have a career impact. I agree that if you go back to grad school late in life, you’re not going to have a career impact.[/quote]
UCGal, thanks for clarifying your “friends’ and relative’s” return-to-school situations . . . all except your road-warrior consultant friend were under 30 when they decided to embark on grad school, including your friend who will move into a new student apt. at UCSD. They HAVE TIME to benefit from their decision to go to grad school.
Your road-warrior friend (over 50) did NOT take out any student loans to get his Ph.D (which costs $50K-$100K to obtain). Hopefully, he can raise his rate enough during his remaining working years to recover this investment :=)
August 15, 2010 at 11:03 AM #591188bearishgurlParticipant[quote=UCGal]. . . Another example with a twist… family member in his early 50’s who had an MBA – gets his PhD in business. He’s a road warrier consultant – so it did raise his hourly rate. But it was done more for other reasons… life goal was to get a PhD. Didn’t take out student loans.
The first examples- they were all young enough to have a career impact. I agree that if you go back to grad school late in life, you’re not going to have a career impact.[/quote]
UCGal, thanks for clarifying your “friends’ and relative’s” return-to-school situations . . . all except your road-warrior consultant friend were under 30 when they decided to embark on grad school, including your friend who will move into a new student apt. at UCSD. They HAVE TIME to benefit from their decision to go to grad school.
Your road-warrior friend (over 50) did NOT take out any student loans to get his Ph.D (which costs $50K-$100K to obtain). Hopefully, he can raise his rate enough during his remaining working years to recover this investment :=)
August 15, 2010 at 11:03 AM #591726bearishgurlParticipant[quote=UCGal]. . . Another example with a twist… family member in his early 50’s who had an MBA – gets his PhD in business. He’s a road warrier consultant – so it did raise his hourly rate. But it was done more for other reasons… life goal was to get a PhD. Didn’t take out student loans.
The first examples- they were all young enough to have a career impact. I agree that if you go back to grad school late in life, you’re not going to have a career impact.[/quote]
UCGal, thanks for clarifying your “friends’ and relative’s” return-to-school situations . . . all except your road-warrior consultant friend were under 30 when they decided to embark on grad school, including your friend who will move into a new student apt. at UCSD. They HAVE TIME to benefit from their decision to go to grad school.
Your road-warrior friend (over 50) did NOT take out any student loans to get his Ph.D (which costs $50K-$100K to obtain). Hopefully, he can raise his rate enough during his remaining working years to recover this investment :=)
August 15, 2010 at 11:03 AM #591837bearishgurlParticipant[quote=UCGal]. . . Another example with a twist… family member in his early 50’s who had an MBA – gets his PhD in business. He’s a road warrier consultant – so it did raise his hourly rate. But it was done more for other reasons… life goal was to get a PhD. Didn’t take out student loans.
The first examples- they were all young enough to have a career impact. I agree that if you go back to grad school late in life, you’re not going to have a career impact.[/quote]
UCGal, thanks for clarifying your “friends’ and relative’s” return-to-school situations . . . all except your road-warrior consultant friend were under 30 when they decided to embark on grad school, including your friend who will move into a new student apt. at UCSD. They HAVE TIME to benefit from their decision to go to grad school.
Your road-warrior friend (over 50) did NOT take out any student loans to get his Ph.D (which costs $50K-$100K to obtain). Hopefully, he can raise his rate enough during his remaining working years to recover this investment :=)
August 15, 2010 at 11:03 AM #592147bearishgurlParticipant[quote=UCGal]. . . Another example with a twist… family member in his early 50’s who had an MBA – gets his PhD in business. He’s a road warrier consultant – so it did raise his hourly rate. But it was done more for other reasons… life goal was to get a PhD. Didn’t take out student loans.
The first examples- they were all young enough to have a career impact. I agree that if you go back to grad school late in life, you’re not going to have a career impact.[/quote]
UCGal, thanks for clarifying your “friends’ and relative’s” return-to-school situations . . . all except your road-warrior consultant friend were under 30 when they decided to embark on grad school, including your friend who will move into a new student apt. at UCSD. They HAVE TIME to benefit from their decision to go to grad school.
Your road-warrior friend (over 50) did NOT take out any student loans to get his Ph.D (which costs $50K-$100K to obtain). Hopefully, he can raise his rate enough during his remaining working years to recover this investment :=)
August 15, 2010 at 11:21 AM #591100daveljParticipant[quote=bearishgurl]
Your road-warrior friend (over 50) did NOT take out any student loans to get his Ph.D (which costs $50K-$100K to obtain). [/quote]Is this opportunity cost? I’m unaware of any reputable PhD program in which the candidate pays for the doctorate. Although perhaps I’m just thinking of the business/economics/finance/science/engineering areas. Generally, the candidate receives a stipend to teach undergrads and assist professors with research. Maybe folks pay for PhDs in certain liberal arts subjects.
August 15, 2010 at 11:21 AM #591193daveljParticipant[quote=bearishgurl]
Your road-warrior friend (over 50) did NOT take out any student loans to get his Ph.D (which costs $50K-$100K to obtain). [/quote]Is this opportunity cost? I’m unaware of any reputable PhD program in which the candidate pays for the doctorate. Although perhaps I’m just thinking of the business/economics/finance/science/engineering areas. Generally, the candidate receives a stipend to teach undergrads and assist professors with research. Maybe folks pay for PhDs in certain liberal arts subjects.
August 15, 2010 at 11:21 AM #591731daveljParticipant[quote=bearishgurl]
Your road-warrior friend (over 50) did NOT take out any student loans to get his Ph.D (which costs $50K-$100K to obtain). [/quote]Is this opportunity cost? I’m unaware of any reputable PhD program in which the candidate pays for the doctorate. Although perhaps I’m just thinking of the business/economics/finance/science/engineering areas. Generally, the candidate receives a stipend to teach undergrads and assist professors with research. Maybe folks pay for PhDs in certain liberal arts subjects.
August 15, 2010 at 11:21 AM #591842daveljParticipant[quote=bearishgurl]
Your road-warrior friend (over 50) did NOT take out any student loans to get his Ph.D (which costs $50K-$100K to obtain). [/quote]Is this opportunity cost? I’m unaware of any reputable PhD program in which the candidate pays for the doctorate. Although perhaps I’m just thinking of the business/economics/finance/science/engineering areas. Generally, the candidate receives a stipend to teach undergrads and assist professors with research. Maybe folks pay for PhDs in certain liberal arts subjects.
August 15, 2010 at 11:21 AM #592152daveljParticipant[quote=bearishgurl]
Your road-warrior friend (over 50) did NOT take out any student loans to get his Ph.D (which costs $50K-$100K to obtain). [/quote]Is this opportunity cost? I’m unaware of any reputable PhD program in which the candidate pays for the doctorate. Although perhaps I’m just thinking of the business/economics/finance/science/engineering areas. Generally, the candidate receives a stipend to teach undergrads and assist professors with research. Maybe folks pay for PhDs in certain liberal arts subjects.
August 15, 2010 at 1:13 PM #591141UCGalParticipant[quote=davelj]
Is this opportunity cost? I’m unaware of any reputable PhD program in which the candidate pays for the doctorate. Although perhaps I’m just thinking of the business/economics/finance/science/engineering areas. Generally, the candidate receives a stipend to teach undergrads and assist professors with research. Maybe folks pay for PhDs in certain liberal arts subjects.[/quote]
Nope – he paid for it. And worked on it while still working. (He took some time off to research and write his doctorate). Like I said – this was done for personal reasons, and he was still able to command management consultant rates working – which is MUCH better pay than student teaching.I doubt he’ll recoup the investment in wages… he did it for personal reasons (always wanted a PhD, other family members had PhDs – wanted to achieve the goal before aging mom died, etc.)
August 15, 2010 at 1:13 PM #591233UCGalParticipant[quote=davelj]
Is this opportunity cost? I’m unaware of any reputable PhD program in which the candidate pays for the doctorate. Although perhaps I’m just thinking of the business/economics/finance/science/engineering areas. Generally, the candidate receives a stipend to teach undergrads and assist professors with research. Maybe folks pay for PhDs in certain liberal arts subjects.[/quote]
Nope – he paid for it. And worked on it while still working. (He took some time off to research and write his doctorate). Like I said – this was done for personal reasons, and he was still able to command management consultant rates working – which is MUCH better pay than student teaching.I doubt he’ll recoup the investment in wages… he did it for personal reasons (always wanted a PhD, other family members had PhDs – wanted to achieve the goal before aging mom died, etc.)
August 15, 2010 at 1:13 PM #591771UCGalParticipant[quote=davelj]
Is this opportunity cost? I’m unaware of any reputable PhD program in which the candidate pays for the doctorate. Although perhaps I’m just thinking of the business/economics/finance/science/engineering areas. Generally, the candidate receives a stipend to teach undergrads and assist professors with research. Maybe folks pay for PhDs in certain liberal arts subjects.[/quote]
Nope – he paid for it. And worked on it while still working. (He took some time off to research and write his doctorate). Like I said – this was done for personal reasons, and he was still able to command management consultant rates working – which is MUCH better pay than student teaching.I doubt he’ll recoup the investment in wages… he did it for personal reasons (always wanted a PhD, other family members had PhDs – wanted to achieve the goal before aging mom died, etc.)
August 15, 2010 at 1:13 PM #591882UCGalParticipant[quote=davelj]
Is this opportunity cost? I’m unaware of any reputable PhD program in which the candidate pays for the doctorate. Although perhaps I’m just thinking of the business/economics/finance/science/engineering areas. Generally, the candidate receives a stipend to teach undergrads and assist professors with research. Maybe folks pay for PhDs in certain liberal arts subjects.[/quote]
Nope – he paid for it. And worked on it while still working. (He took some time off to research and write his doctorate). Like I said – this was done for personal reasons, and he was still able to command management consultant rates working – which is MUCH better pay than student teaching.I doubt he’ll recoup the investment in wages… he did it for personal reasons (always wanted a PhD, other family members had PhDs – wanted to achieve the goal before aging mom died, etc.)
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