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January 14, 2011 at 1:24 PM #654887January 14, 2011 at 1:35 PM #653790
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Participant[quote=Djshakes][quote=captcha]As you are leaving a bar where you had a few too many a guy with a gun in his hand approaches you and asks for your wallet. You saw French Connection and you like Gene Hackman, so you carry a gun attached to your ankle. What do you do?
I think easy access to guns makes us *feel* safer. In reality, it makes it easier for crazy people to shoot at congress people in Tuscon or kids around Carlsbad schools.[/quote]
TOTALLY! Because criminals obey guns laws just like all the other laws they are breaking.
We better restrict 99% of the population for the sake of the 1% that could be crazy.
To answer your other question, you give them the wallet. What moron is going to bend down and try to grab a gun with one pointing at him. I know you probably get your political view points from Hollywood but most people live in reality when it comes to situation like this. Do you also think that when someone gets punched it sounds like the movies? “Booom, crack, POW!”[/quote]
My point was that an ordinary person most likely wont have access to the weapon when its most needed. You either don’t carry it around, or you carry it in a way that makes it more dangerous to confront than to obey the attacker.
And if you do have access to your weapon you are more likely to get hurt if you try to use it. If an armed robber is in your house he will run if you start yelling how you have a gun and you called the police. And the robber is more likely to shoot back if you start shooting.
I knew people who got killed because they tried to use guns they had.
Criminals would be less likely to own a firearm if access was not that easy.
Personally, I would not object to a Japan-style gun control. I understand that it won’t happen due to NRA. Regarding Mexico – it is not illegal to own a firearm in Mexico. You just can’t have the kind that is in use by police and military.
January 14, 2011 at 1:35 PM #653857Participant[quote=Djshakes][quote=captcha]As you are leaving a bar where you had a few too many a guy with a gun in his hand approaches you and asks for your wallet. You saw French Connection and you like Gene Hackman, so you carry a gun attached to your ankle. What do you do?
I think easy access to guns makes us *feel* safer. In reality, it makes it easier for crazy people to shoot at congress people in Tuscon or kids around Carlsbad schools.[/quote]
TOTALLY! Because criminals obey guns laws just like all the other laws they are breaking.
We better restrict 99% of the population for the sake of the 1% that could be crazy.
To answer your other question, you give them the wallet. What moron is going to bend down and try to grab a gun with one pointing at him. I know you probably get your political view points from Hollywood but most people live in reality when it comes to situation like this. Do you also think that when someone gets punched it sounds like the movies? “Booom, crack, POW!”[/quote]
My point was that an ordinary person most likely wont have access to the weapon when its most needed. You either don’t carry it around, or you carry it in a way that makes it more dangerous to confront than to obey the attacker.
And if you do have access to your weapon you are more likely to get hurt if you try to use it. If an armed robber is in your house he will run if you start yelling how you have a gun and you called the police. And the robber is more likely to shoot back if you start shooting.
I knew people who got killed because they tried to use guns they had.
Criminals would be less likely to own a firearm if access was not that easy.
Personally, I would not object to a Japan-style gun control. I understand that it won’t happen due to NRA. Regarding Mexico – it is not illegal to own a firearm in Mexico. You just can’t have the kind that is in use by police and military.
January 14, 2011 at 1:35 PM #654444Participant[quote=Djshakes][quote=captcha]As you are leaving a bar where you had a few too many a guy with a gun in his hand approaches you and asks for your wallet. You saw French Connection and you like Gene Hackman, so you carry a gun attached to your ankle. What do you do?
I think easy access to guns makes us *feel* safer. In reality, it makes it easier for crazy people to shoot at congress people in Tuscon or kids around Carlsbad schools.[/quote]
TOTALLY! Because criminals obey guns laws just like all the other laws they are breaking.
We better restrict 99% of the population for the sake of the 1% that could be crazy.
To answer your other question, you give them the wallet. What moron is going to bend down and try to grab a gun with one pointing at him. I know you probably get your political view points from Hollywood but most people live in reality when it comes to situation like this. Do you also think that when someone gets punched it sounds like the movies? “Booom, crack, POW!”[/quote]
My point was that an ordinary person most likely wont have access to the weapon when its most needed. You either don’t carry it around, or you carry it in a way that makes it more dangerous to confront than to obey the attacker.
And if you do have access to your weapon you are more likely to get hurt if you try to use it. If an armed robber is in your house he will run if you start yelling how you have a gun and you called the police. And the robber is more likely to shoot back if you start shooting.
I knew people who got killed because they tried to use guns they had.
Criminals would be less likely to own a firearm if access was not that easy.
Personally, I would not object to a Japan-style gun control. I understand that it won’t happen due to NRA. Regarding Mexico – it is not illegal to own a firearm in Mexico. You just can’t have the kind that is in use by police and military.
January 14, 2011 at 1:35 PM #654580Participant[quote=Djshakes][quote=captcha]As you are leaving a bar where you had a few too many a guy with a gun in his hand approaches you and asks for your wallet. You saw French Connection and you like Gene Hackman, so you carry a gun attached to your ankle. What do you do?
I think easy access to guns makes us *feel* safer. In reality, it makes it easier for crazy people to shoot at congress people in Tuscon or kids around Carlsbad schools.[/quote]
TOTALLY! Because criminals obey guns laws just like all the other laws they are breaking.
We better restrict 99% of the population for the sake of the 1% that could be crazy.
To answer your other question, you give them the wallet. What moron is going to bend down and try to grab a gun with one pointing at him. I know you probably get your political view points from Hollywood but most people live in reality when it comes to situation like this. Do you also think that when someone gets punched it sounds like the movies? “Booom, crack, POW!”[/quote]
My point was that an ordinary person most likely wont have access to the weapon when its most needed. You either don’t carry it around, or you carry it in a way that makes it more dangerous to confront than to obey the attacker.
And if you do have access to your weapon you are more likely to get hurt if you try to use it. If an armed robber is in your house he will run if you start yelling how you have a gun and you called the police. And the robber is more likely to shoot back if you start shooting.
I knew people who got killed because they tried to use guns they had.
Criminals would be less likely to own a firearm if access was not that easy.
Personally, I would not object to a Japan-style gun control. I understand that it won’t happen due to NRA. Regarding Mexico – it is not illegal to own a firearm in Mexico. You just can’t have the kind that is in use by police and military.
January 14, 2011 at 1:35 PM #654907Participant[quote=Djshakes][quote=captcha]As you are leaving a bar where you had a few too many a guy with a gun in his hand approaches you and asks for your wallet. You saw French Connection and you like Gene Hackman, so you carry a gun attached to your ankle. What do you do?
I think easy access to guns makes us *feel* safer. In reality, it makes it easier for crazy people to shoot at congress people in Tuscon or kids around Carlsbad schools.[/quote]
TOTALLY! Because criminals obey guns laws just like all the other laws they are breaking.
We better restrict 99% of the population for the sake of the 1% that could be crazy.
To answer your other question, you give them the wallet. What moron is going to bend down and try to grab a gun with one pointing at him. I know you probably get your political view points from Hollywood but most people live in reality when it comes to situation like this. Do you also think that when someone gets punched it sounds like the movies? “Booom, crack, POW!”[/quote]
My point was that an ordinary person most likely wont have access to the weapon when its most needed. You either don’t carry it around, or you carry it in a way that makes it more dangerous to confront than to obey the attacker.
And if you do have access to your weapon you are more likely to get hurt if you try to use it. If an armed robber is in your house he will run if you start yelling how you have a gun and you called the police. And the robber is more likely to shoot back if you start shooting.
I knew people who got killed because they tried to use guns they had.
Criminals would be less likely to own a firearm if access was not that easy.
Personally, I would not object to a Japan-style gun control. I understand that it won’t happen due to NRA. Regarding Mexico – it is not illegal to own a firearm in Mexico. You just can’t have the kind that is in use by police and military.
January 14, 2011 at 2:56 PM #653864Djshakes
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I knew people who got killed because they tried to use guns they had.Criminals would be less likely to own a firearm if access was not that easy.
[/quote]Too bad they weren’t better shots.
In regards to you not having time to go for your gun when a criminal attacks you, fine. However, the bystander can go for his. You think he is going to help if he doesn’t have a gun?
As a criminal would you rather have a gun or take a chance using a knife because you know the home owner doesn’t own a gun? All your points are stupid assumptions. A criminal wants to get in and out as fast as he can in the most effective way.
January 14, 2011 at 2:56 PM #653932Participant[quote=captcha]
I knew people who got killed because they tried to use guns they had.Criminals would be less likely to own a firearm if access was not that easy.
[/quote]Too bad they weren’t better shots.
In regards to you not having time to go for your gun when a criminal attacks you, fine. However, the bystander can go for his. You think he is going to help if he doesn’t have a gun?
As a criminal would you rather have a gun or take a chance using a knife because you know the home owner doesn’t own a gun? All your points are stupid assumptions. A criminal wants to get in and out as fast as he can in the most effective way.
January 14, 2011 at 2:56 PM #654517Participant[quote=captcha]
I knew people who got killed because they tried to use guns they had.Criminals would be less likely to own a firearm if access was not that easy.
[/quote]Too bad they weren’t better shots.
In regards to you not having time to go for your gun when a criminal attacks you, fine. However, the bystander can go for his. You think he is going to help if he doesn’t have a gun?
As a criminal would you rather have a gun or take a chance using a knife because you know the home owner doesn’t own a gun? All your points are stupid assumptions. A criminal wants to get in and out as fast as he can in the most effective way.
January 14, 2011 at 2:56 PM #654654Participant[quote=captcha]
I knew people who got killed because they tried to use guns they had.Criminals would be less likely to own a firearm if access was not that easy.
[/quote]Too bad they weren’t better shots.
In regards to you not having time to go for your gun when a criminal attacks you, fine. However, the bystander can go for his. You think he is going to help if he doesn’t have a gun?
As a criminal would you rather have a gun or take a chance using a knife because you know the home owner doesn’t own a gun? All your points are stupid assumptions. A criminal wants to get in and out as fast as he can in the most effective way.
January 14, 2011 at 2:56 PM #654982Participant[quote=captcha]
I knew people who got killed because they tried to use guns they had.Criminals would be less likely to own a firearm if access was not that easy.
[/quote]Too bad they weren’t better shots.
In regards to you not having time to go for your gun when a criminal attacks you, fine. However, the bystander can go for his. You think he is going to help if he doesn’t have a gun?
As a criminal would you rather have a gun or take a chance using a knife because you know the home owner doesn’t own a gun? All your points are stupid assumptions. A criminal wants to get in and out as fast as he can in the most effective way.
January 14, 2011 at 3:25 PM #653874Arraya
Participant[quote=Rustico]
I think his post had some good points, but how is shooting a rioter the same as fighting the government with civilian legal guns?
[/quote]I think “the government” would be a more formidable foe. They have predator drones after all.
January 14, 2011 at 3:25 PM #653942Participant[quote=Rustico]
I think his post had some good points, but how is shooting a rioter the same as fighting the government with civilian legal guns?
[/quote]I think “the government” would be a more formidable foe. They have predator drones after all.
January 14, 2011 at 3:25 PM #654527Participant[quote=Rustico]
I think his post had some good points, but how is shooting a rioter the same as fighting the government with civilian legal guns?
[/quote]I think “the government” would be a more formidable foe. They have predator drones after all.
January 14, 2011 at 3:25 PM #654664Participant[quote=Rustico]
I think his post had some good points, but how is shooting a rioter the same as fighting the government with civilian legal guns?
[/quote]I think “the government” would be a more formidable foe. They have predator drones after all.
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