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  • January 14, 2011 at 9:07 AM #654606
    Djshakes
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    I can’t watch the vid because it is blocked at work but I am an avid believer that gun laws only inhibit good citizens. In CA you have to pass a hand gun safety test and if you have a felony you can’t own a gun. THIS IS GOOD! They also require a 10 hold period from purchase date to pickup for every gun you buy. This is a cooling off period. Sort of retarded if you already own a gun/guns. They also restrict what types of guns can be sold. Fully automatic…I can understand that. However, a majority of guns are not on the CA roster and can’t be sold in CA. These guns are no different then similar guns on the roster. The reason is that a company has to pay the state of CA a fee to get each model they sell on the roster. It is basically a way for the state to extort money from these companies. It has nothing to do with safety. Because of this, a lot of companies basically give CA the bird and don’t even ship here. They don’t want to deal with our multitude of laws. Criminals will circumvent all these laws and it only hinders law abiding citizens.

    Cities like Chicago do not allow guns in the city and they are some of the highest crime areas. Chicago has the most police officers in the country killed by gun fire. 1 in 89 residents become a victim of violent crimes.

    It is the age old argument that guns don’t kill people, people do. Blaming guns is like blaming alcohol for drunk driving. This country loves trying to take the responsibility away from the individual and placing it on something/someone else.

    If you were a criminal would you rather rob a house in D.C., Chicago, CA (strict gun laws on citizens) or TX?

    January 14, 2011 at 9:09 AM #653513
    Djshakes
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    [quote=Rustico]Of the people I have observed to own guns for any purpose, I would rather at least 50% of them did not. I imagine the ratio is similar for the people who have guns but I don’t know it.
    Not sure I see how civilians owning guns is a sure defense against the government. They have bigger guns and perhaps half the armed civilians or more will take their side. We will always either have a government military or a military government anyway.I do agree though, that if guns are made illegal, then only the worst bastards will have them, the government and criminals.[/quote]

    I don’t buy guns to fight against the government. Anyone with that mentality is retarded. Most people I know that own guns have them to protect their home. Sure, if we were attacked like the movie “red dawn” you might want to have a gun…but lets get realistic. That is what our military is for.

    January 14, 2011 at 9:09 AM #653577
    Djshakes
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    [quote=Rustico]Of the people I have observed to own guns for any purpose, I would rather at least 50% of them did not. I imagine the ratio is similar for the people who have guns but I don’t know it.
    Not sure I see how civilians owning guns is a sure defense against the government. They have bigger guns and perhaps half the armed civilians or more will take their side. We will always either have a government military or a military government anyway.I do agree though, that if guns are made illegal, then only the worst bastards will have them, the government and criminals.[/quote]

    I don’t buy guns to fight against the government. Anyone with that mentality is retarded. Most people I know that own guns have them to protect their home. Sure, if we were attacked like the movie “red dawn” you might want to have a gun…but lets get realistic. That is what our military is for.

    January 14, 2011 at 9:09 AM #654165
    Djshakes
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    [quote=Rustico]Of the people I have observed to own guns for any purpose, I would rather at least 50% of them did not. I imagine the ratio is similar for the people who have guns but I don’t know it.
    Not sure I see how civilians owning guns is a sure defense against the government. They have bigger guns and perhaps half the armed civilians or more will take their side. We will always either have a government military or a military government anyway.I do agree though, that if guns are made illegal, then only the worst bastards will have them, the government and criminals.[/quote]

    I don’t buy guns to fight against the government. Anyone with that mentality is retarded. Most people I know that own guns have them to protect their home. Sure, if we were attacked like the movie “red dawn” you might want to have a gun…but lets get realistic. That is what our military is for.

    January 14, 2011 at 9:09 AM #654300
    Djshakes
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    [quote=Rustico]Of the people I have observed to own guns for any purpose, I would rather at least 50% of them did not. I imagine the ratio is similar for the people who have guns but I don’t know it.
    Not sure I see how civilians owning guns is a sure defense against the government. They have bigger guns and perhaps half the armed civilians or more will take their side. We will always either have a government military or a military government anyway.I do agree though, that if guns are made illegal, then only the worst bastards will have them, the government and criminals.[/quote]

    I don’t buy guns to fight against the government. Anyone with that mentality is retarded. Most people I know that own guns have them to protect their home. Sure, if we were attacked like the movie “red dawn” you might want to have a gun…but lets get realistic. That is what our military is for.

    January 14, 2011 at 9:09 AM #654626
    Djshakes
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    [quote=Rustico]Of the people I have observed to own guns for any purpose, I would rather at least 50% of them did not. I imagine the ratio is similar for the people who have guns but I don’t know it.
    Not sure I see how civilians owning guns is a sure defense against the government. They have bigger guns and perhaps half the armed civilians or more will take their side. We will always either have a government military or a military government anyway.I do agree though, that if guns are made illegal, then only the worst bastards will have them, the government and criminals.[/quote]

    I don’t buy guns to fight against the government. Anyone with that mentality is retarded. Most people I know that own guns have them to protect their home. Sure, if we were attacked like the movie “red dawn” you might want to have a gun…but lets get realistic. That is what our military is for.

    January 14, 2011 at 9:10 AM #653518
    blahblahblah
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    I think firearms should be illegal here just like in Mexico. Then we will be able to enjoy the same high levels of safety that the Mexican people have.

    January 14, 2011 at 9:10 AM #653582
    blahblahblah
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    I think firearms should be illegal here just like in Mexico. Then we will be able to enjoy the same high levels of safety that the Mexican people have.

    January 14, 2011 at 9:10 AM #654170
    blahblahblah
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    I think firearms should be illegal here just like in Mexico. Then we will be able to enjoy the same high levels of safety that the Mexican people have.

    January 14, 2011 at 9:10 AM #654305
    blahblahblah
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    I think firearms should be illegal here just like in Mexico. Then we will be able to enjoy the same high levels of safety that the Mexican people have.

    January 14, 2011 at 9:10 AM #654631
    blahblahblah
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    I think firearms should be illegal here just like in Mexico. Then we will be able to enjoy the same high levels of safety that the Mexican people have.

    January 14, 2011 at 9:15 AM #653533
    NotCranky
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    [quote=Djshakes][quote=Rustico]Of the people I have observed to own guns for any purpose, I would rather at least 50% of them did not. I imagine the ratio is similar for the people who have guns but I don’t know it.
    Not sure I see how civilians owning guns is a sure defense against the government. They have bigger guns and perhaps half the armed civilians or more will take their side. We will always either have a government military or a military government anyway.I do agree though, that if guns are made illegal, then only the worst bastards will have them, the government and criminals.[/quote]

    I don’t buy guns to fight against the government. Anyone with that mentality is retarded. [/quote]
    I agree if you can’t tell, but you hear it all time. I am not sure but I think it is floating around on a few pigg threads.

    January 14, 2011 at 9:15 AM #653597
    NotCranky
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    [quote=Djshakes][quote=Rustico]Of the people I have observed to own guns for any purpose, I would rather at least 50% of them did not. I imagine the ratio is similar for the people who have guns but I don’t know it.
    Not sure I see how civilians owning guns is a sure defense against the government. They have bigger guns and perhaps half the armed civilians or more will take their side. We will always either have a government military or a military government anyway.I do agree though, that if guns are made illegal, then only the worst bastards will have them, the government and criminals.[/quote]

    I don’t buy guns to fight against the government. Anyone with that mentality is retarded. [/quote]
    I agree if you can’t tell, but you hear it all time. I am not sure but I think it is floating around on a few pigg threads.

    January 14, 2011 at 9:15 AM #654185
    NotCranky
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    [quote=Djshakes][quote=Rustico]Of the people I have observed to own guns for any purpose, I would rather at least 50% of them did not. I imagine the ratio is similar for the people who have guns but I don’t know it.
    Not sure I see how civilians owning guns is a sure defense against the government. They have bigger guns and perhaps half the armed civilians or more will take their side. We will always either have a government military or a military government anyway.I do agree though, that if guns are made illegal, then only the worst bastards will have them, the government and criminals.[/quote]

    I don’t buy guns to fight against the government. Anyone with that mentality is retarded. [/quote]
    I agree if you can’t tell, but you hear it all time. I am not sure but I think it is floating around on a few pigg threads.

    January 14, 2011 at 9:15 AM #654318
    NotCranky
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    [quote=Djshakes][quote=Rustico]Of the people I have observed to own guns for any purpose, I would rather at least 50% of them did not. I imagine the ratio is similar for the people who have guns but I don’t know it.
    Not sure I see how civilians owning guns is a sure defense against the government. They have bigger guns and perhaps half the armed civilians or more will take their side. We will always either have a government military or a military government anyway.I do agree though, that if guns are made illegal, then only the worst bastards will have them, the government and criminals.[/quote]

    I don’t buy guns to fight against the government. Anyone with that mentality is retarded. [/quote]
    I agree if you can’t tell, but you hear it all time. I am not sure but I think it is floating around on a few pigg threads.

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