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  • January 14, 2011 at 9:15 AM #654646
    NotCranky
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    [quote=Djshakes][quote=Rustico]Of the people I have observed to own guns for any purpose, I would rather at least 50% of them did not. I imagine the ratio is similar for the people who have guns but I don’t know it.
    Not sure I see how civilians owning guns is a sure defense against the government. They have bigger guns and perhaps half the armed civilians or more will take their side. We will always either have a government military or a military government anyway.I do agree though, that if guns are made illegal, then only the worst bastards will have them, the government and criminals.[/quote]

    I don’t buy guns to fight against the government. Anyone with that mentality is retarded. [/quote]
    I agree if you can’t tell, but you hear it all time. I am not sure but I think it is floating around on a few pigg threads.

    January 14, 2011 at 9:17 AM #653537
    Coronita
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    [quote=CONCHO]I think firearms should be illegal here just like in Mexico. Then we will be able to enjoy the same high levels of safety that the Mexican people have.[/quote]

    LOL.

    January 14, 2011 at 9:17 AM #653602
    Coronita
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    [quote=CONCHO]I think firearms should be illegal here just like in Mexico. Then we will be able to enjoy the same high levels of safety that the Mexican people have.[/quote]

    LOL.

    January 14, 2011 at 9:17 AM #654190
    Coronita
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    [quote=CONCHO]I think firearms should be illegal here just like in Mexico. Then we will be able to enjoy the same high levels of safety that the Mexican people have.[/quote]

    LOL.

    January 14, 2011 at 9:17 AM #654323
    Coronita
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    [quote=CONCHO]I think firearms should be illegal here just like in Mexico. Then we will be able to enjoy the same high levels of safety that the Mexican people have.[/quote]

    LOL.

    January 14, 2011 at 9:17 AM #654651
    Coronita
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    [quote=CONCHO]I think firearms should be illegal here just like in Mexico. Then we will be able to enjoy the same high levels of safety that the Mexican people have.[/quote]

    LOL.

    January 14, 2011 at 9:29 AM #653552
    bubba99
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    All of my coworkers, and many of my friends carry guns most of the time. My observations are that it really does not make them or society any safer. In fact it only makes a gun available to the first criminal who is strong enough to take it away.

    Law enforcement officers (LEOs)are way too slow to shoot making them vulnerable to having their guns and lives taken. Non-LEOs are generally too slow and unskilled to be effective. And rarely do they take into account “whats behind the target”. Making their using a gun dangerous to bystanders.

    Many bad guys have spent years in prison studying how to disarm citizens, lifting weights and to attack with such speed that even the best trained armed people are at risk.

    21 feet is the magic distance. A skilled criminal within 21 feet, can probably kill an armed person before he/she can draw and fire.

    January 14, 2011 at 9:29 AM #653617
    bubba99
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    All of my coworkers, and many of my friends carry guns most of the time. My observations are that it really does not make them or society any safer. In fact it only makes a gun available to the first criminal who is strong enough to take it away.

    Law enforcement officers (LEOs)are way too slow to shoot making them vulnerable to having their guns and lives taken. Non-LEOs are generally too slow and unskilled to be effective. And rarely do they take into account “whats behind the target”. Making their using a gun dangerous to bystanders.

    Many bad guys have spent years in prison studying how to disarm citizens, lifting weights and to attack with such speed that even the best trained armed people are at risk.

    21 feet is the magic distance. A skilled criminal within 21 feet, can probably kill an armed person before he/she can draw and fire.

    January 14, 2011 at 9:29 AM #654205
    bubba99
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    All of my coworkers, and many of my friends carry guns most of the time. My observations are that it really does not make them or society any safer. In fact it only makes a gun available to the first criminal who is strong enough to take it away.

    Law enforcement officers (LEOs)are way too slow to shoot making them vulnerable to having their guns and lives taken. Non-LEOs are generally too slow and unskilled to be effective. And rarely do they take into account “whats behind the target”. Making their using a gun dangerous to bystanders.

    Many bad guys have spent years in prison studying how to disarm citizens, lifting weights and to attack with such speed that even the best trained armed people are at risk.

    21 feet is the magic distance. A skilled criminal within 21 feet, can probably kill an armed person before he/she can draw and fire.

    January 14, 2011 at 9:29 AM #654338
    bubba99
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    All of my coworkers, and many of my friends carry guns most of the time. My observations are that it really does not make them or society any safer. In fact it only makes a gun available to the first criminal who is strong enough to take it away.

    Law enforcement officers (LEOs)are way too slow to shoot making them vulnerable to having their guns and lives taken. Non-LEOs are generally too slow and unskilled to be effective. And rarely do they take into account “whats behind the target”. Making their using a gun dangerous to bystanders.

    Many bad guys have spent years in prison studying how to disarm citizens, lifting weights and to attack with such speed that even the best trained armed people are at risk.

    21 feet is the magic distance. A skilled criminal within 21 feet, can probably kill an armed person before he/she can draw and fire.

    January 14, 2011 at 9:29 AM #654666
    bubba99
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    All of my coworkers, and many of my friends carry guns most of the time. My observations are that it really does not make them or society any safer. In fact it only makes a gun available to the first criminal who is strong enough to take it away.

    Law enforcement officers (LEOs)are way too slow to shoot making them vulnerable to having their guns and lives taken. Non-LEOs are generally too slow and unskilled to be effective. And rarely do they take into account “whats behind the target”. Making their using a gun dangerous to bystanders.

    Many bad guys have spent years in prison studying how to disarm citizens, lifting weights and to attack with such speed that even the best trained armed people are at risk.

    21 feet is the magic distance. A skilled criminal within 21 feet, can probably kill an armed person before he/she can draw and fire.

    January 14, 2011 at 9:39 AM #653574
    jstoesz
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    That’s why people should only have shotguns…If the loser is dumb enough to mess with you, you don’t have to be very good at aiming. And as Cheney has proven, it is less than lethal at further distances…
    So lets break out the gun racks and put a shotgun in every home and car!

    January 14, 2011 at 9:39 AM #653641
    jstoesz
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    That’s why people should only have shotguns…If the loser is dumb enough to mess with you, you don’t have to be very good at aiming. And as Cheney has proven, it is less than lethal at further distances…
    So lets break out the gun racks and put a shotgun in every home and car!

    January 14, 2011 at 9:39 AM #654228
    jstoesz
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    That’s why people should only have shotguns…If the loser is dumb enough to mess with you, you don’t have to be very good at aiming. And as Cheney has proven, it is less than lethal at further distances…
    So lets break out the gun racks and put a shotgun in every home and car!

    January 14, 2011 at 9:39 AM #654362
    jstoesz
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    That’s why people should only have shotguns…If the loser is dumb enough to mess with you, you don’t have to be very good at aiming. And as Cheney has proven, it is less than lethal at further distances…
    So lets break out the gun racks and put a shotgun in every home and car!

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