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February 6, 2008 at 9:00 PM #149409February 6, 2008 at 9:49 PM #149060CoronitaParticipant
I am a proponent of equal rights no matter what your creed, culture, or race. Unfortunately, this is not the case anymore in America. You can have 2 educated and experienced candidates for a job, one european decent the other Asian decent, the European guy can have more experience and a degree from a better school, yet the Asian candidate gets the job due to quota regulations. This is not equal rights.
Contraman, with all due respect, I don't think Asians qualify under any type of affirmative action in any of the professions in colleges. I would be a huge proponent of dropping all affirmative action programs based on race,gender, ethnicity, but I do think doing so would lead to a dramatic increase in enrollment by asian students into engineering, mdicine, and other professions that are normally capped by quotas limiting our admissions.
As an asian, I can say that I had to work my ass off to get in an Ivy League school, more so than other peers of different ethnicity, just so I can stand out in a field of other asian applications applying to engineering. And i know some of my peers of different ethnicity had lower qualifications than me and nevertheless had less of an issue gaining admissions. Also, when I was a student, I had the opportunity to work in the admissions office, and reviewing some of the applicants, there were several cases in which asian students were turned away, simply because there was a "need" to diversify the student body, while students of other ethnicity were fast tracked, yet had lower qualifications (caucasians included). Call it diversity or quotas, but quotas don't benefit asians in general.
The long running joke is that if our society is going to have affirmative action programs, why not apply this uniformly to all aspects of our society that doesn't have equal representation. Let's start with sports. How many asians do we see plan in the NFL? Shouldn't there be an affirmative action program for under-represented asians in the NFL? I guess the same would be said about the NBA (though Yao Ming sort of shoots down that argument these days).
Anyway, you're right in that there isn't a level playing field, but you're wrong in who you think benefits from this playing field. The argument has been, that well only the best should play in sports. But shouldn't we demand only the best in other things as well, like in education too?
I should also add that in corporate america, statistically how many asians are really in upper management in non-tech related companies? Not many. You think people aren't qualified for that? Doubtful. There's often a misconception about asians in corporate america. We're sometimes perceived as timid and shy and lacking leadership skills. Perhaps it's a culture thing that when speak, we don't have an affinity and have not mastered the skill of the 1:100 ratio bullshit speak that is prevalent among corporate america, in which 1 task take 100 emails,memos, status reports,meetings,and reviews to discuss what was accomplished. Some would even say this is "short-selling" yourself. But it's typically not in the culture, which unfortunately is why a lot of times you have an utterly incompetent manager leading a group of asians workaholics. Of course, these cultural gaps are not wrapped in some "affirmative action" program that you think gives us better opportunities that your corresponding caucasian peer. It just doesn't happen that way.
I have a rule of thumb when it comes to working in corporate america that I try to teach asians that want to survive in corporate america. Traditionally, first generation asians will say 1 thing for 100 things they do. In corporate america, it's more often people who are successful are those that say 100 things for every 1 thing they do. To be a successful, you should at least say 1 thing for every 1 thing you do. This is a concept that so few asians in corporate america has thus far grasped. And by no means should you ever count on any "affirmative action" program to cover any cultural gaps you may have, because it won't.
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—– Sour grapes for everyone!
February 6, 2008 at 9:49 PM #149317CoronitaParticipantI am a proponent of equal rights no matter what your creed, culture, or race. Unfortunately, this is not the case anymore in America. You can have 2 educated and experienced candidates for a job, one european decent the other Asian decent, the European guy can have more experience and a degree from a better school, yet the Asian candidate gets the job due to quota regulations. This is not equal rights.
Contraman, with all due respect, I don't think Asians qualify under any type of affirmative action in any of the professions in colleges. I would be a huge proponent of dropping all affirmative action programs based on race,gender, ethnicity, but I do think doing so would lead to a dramatic increase in enrollment by asian students into engineering, mdicine, and other professions that are normally capped by quotas limiting our admissions.
As an asian, I can say that I had to work my ass off to get in an Ivy League school, more so than other peers of different ethnicity, just so I can stand out in a field of other asian applications applying to engineering. And i know some of my peers of different ethnicity had lower qualifications than me and nevertheless had less of an issue gaining admissions. Also, when I was a student, I had the opportunity to work in the admissions office, and reviewing some of the applicants, there were several cases in which asian students were turned away, simply because there was a "need" to diversify the student body, while students of other ethnicity were fast tracked, yet had lower qualifications (caucasians included). Call it diversity or quotas, but quotas don't benefit asians in general.
The long running joke is that if our society is going to have affirmative action programs, why not apply this uniformly to all aspects of our society that doesn't have equal representation. Let's start with sports. How many asians do we see plan in the NFL? Shouldn't there be an affirmative action program for under-represented asians in the NFL? I guess the same would be said about the NBA (though Yao Ming sort of shoots down that argument these days).
Anyway, you're right in that there isn't a level playing field, but you're wrong in who you think benefits from this playing field. The argument has been, that well only the best should play in sports. But shouldn't we demand only the best in other things as well, like in education too?
I should also add that in corporate america, statistically how many asians are really in upper management in non-tech related companies? Not many. You think people aren't qualified for that? Doubtful. There's often a misconception about asians in corporate america. We're sometimes perceived as timid and shy and lacking leadership skills. Perhaps it's a culture thing that when speak, we don't have an affinity and have not mastered the skill of the 1:100 ratio bullshit speak that is prevalent among corporate america, in which 1 task take 100 emails,memos, status reports,meetings,and reviews to discuss what was accomplished. Some would even say this is "short-selling" yourself. But it's typically not in the culture, which unfortunately is why a lot of times you have an utterly incompetent manager leading a group of asians workaholics. Of course, these cultural gaps are not wrapped in some "affirmative action" program that you think gives us better opportunities that your corresponding caucasian peer. It just doesn't happen that way.
I have a rule of thumb when it comes to working in corporate america that I try to teach asians that want to survive in corporate america. Traditionally, first generation asians will say 1 thing for 100 things they do. In corporate america, it's more often people who are successful are those that say 100 things for every 1 thing they do. To be a successful, you should at least say 1 thing for every 1 thing you do. This is a concept that so few asians in corporate america has thus far grasped. And by no means should you ever count on any "affirmative action" program to cover any cultural gaps you may have, because it won't.
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
February 6, 2008 at 9:49 PM #149329CoronitaParticipantI am a proponent of equal rights no matter what your creed, culture, or race. Unfortunately, this is not the case anymore in America. You can have 2 educated and experienced candidates for a job, one european decent the other Asian decent, the European guy can have more experience and a degree from a better school, yet the Asian candidate gets the job due to quota regulations. This is not equal rights.
Contraman, with all due respect, I don't think Asians qualify under any type of affirmative action in any of the professions in colleges. I would be a huge proponent of dropping all affirmative action programs based on race,gender, ethnicity, but I do think doing so would lead to a dramatic increase in enrollment by asian students into engineering, mdicine, and other professions that are normally capped by quotas limiting our admissions.
As an asian, I can say that I had to work my ass off to get in an Ivy League school, more so than other peers of different ethnicity, just so I can stand out in a field of other asian applications applying to engineering. And i know some of my peers of different ethnicity had lower qualifications than me and nevertheless had less of an issue gaining admissions. Also, when I was a student, I had the opportunity to work in the admissions office, and reviewing some of the applicants, there were several cases in which asian students were turned away, simply because there was a "need" to diversify the student body, while students of other ethnicity were fast tracked, yet had lower qualifications (caucasians included). Call it diversity or quotas, but quotas don't benefit asians in general.
The long running joke is that if our society is going to have affirmative action programs, why not apply this uniformly to all aspects of our society that doesn't have equal representation. Let's start with sports. How many asians do we see plan in the NFL? Shouldn't there be an affirmative action program for under-represented asians in the NFL? I guess the same would be said about the NBA (though Yao Ming sort of shoots down that argument these days).
Anyway, you're right in that there isn't a level playing field, but you're wrong in who you think benefits from this playing field. The argument has been, that well only the best should play in sports. But shouldn't we demand only the best in other things as well, like in education too?
I should also add that in corporate america, statistically how many asians are really in upper management in non-tech related companies? Not many. You think people aren't qualified for that? Doubtful. There's often a misconception about asians in corporate america. We're sometimes perceived as timid and shy and lacking leadership skills. Perhaps it's a culture thing that when speak, we don't have an affinity and have not mastered the skill of the 1:100 ratio bullshit speak that is prevalent among corporate america, in which 1 task take 100 emails,memos, status reports,meetings,and reviews to discuss what was accomplished. Some would even say this is "short-selling" yourself. But it's typically not in the culture, which unfortunately is why a lot of times you have an utterly incompetent manager leading a group of asians workaholics. Of course, these cultural gaps are not wrapped in some "affirmative action" program that you think gives us better opportunities that your corresponding caucasian peer. It just doesn't happen that way.
I have a rule of thumb when it comes to working in corporate america that I try to teach asians that want to survive in corporate america. Traditionally, first generation asians will say 1 thing for 100 things they do. In corporate america, it's more often people who are successful are those that say 100 things for every 1 thing they do. To be a successful, you should at least say 1 thing for every 1 thing you do. This is a concept that so few asians in corporate america has thus far grasped. And by no means should you ever count on any "affirmative action" program to cover any cultural gaps you may have, because it won't.
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
February 6, 2008 at 9:49 PM #149345CoronitaParticipantI am a proponent of equal rights no matter what your creed, culture, or race. Unfortunately, this is not the case anymore in America. You can have 2 educated and experienced candidates for a job, one european decent the other Asian decent, the European guy can have more experience and a degree from a better school, yet the Asian candidate gets the job due to quota regulations. This is not equal rights.
Contraman, with all due respect, I don't think Asians qualify under any type of affirmative action in any of the professions in colleges. I would be a huge proponent of dropping all affirmative action programs based on race,gender, ethnicity, but I do think doing so would lead to a dramatic increase in enrollment by asian students into engineering, mdicine, and other professions that are normally capped by quotas limiting our admissions.
As an asian, I can say that I had to work my ass off to get in an Ivy League school, more so than other peers of different ethnicity, just so I can stand out in a field of other asian applications applying to engineering. And i know some of my peers of different ethnicity had lower qualifications than me and nevertheless had less of an issue gaining admissions. Also, when I was a student, I had the opportunity to work in the admissions office, and reviewing some of the applicants, there were several cases in which asian students were turned away, simply because there was a "need" to diversify the student body, while students of other ethnicity were fast tracked, yet had lower qualifications (caucasians included). Call it diversity or quotas, but quotas don't benefit asians in general.
The long running joke is that if our society is going to have affirmative action programs, why not apply this uniformly to all aspects of our society that doesn't have equal representation. Let's start with sports. How many asians do we see plan in the NFL? Shouldn't there be an affirmative action program for under-represented asians in the NFL? I guess the same would be said about the NBA (though Yao Ming sort of shoots down that argument these days).
Anyway, you're right in that there isn't a level playing field, but you're wrong in who you think benefits from this playing field. The argument has been, that well only the best should play in sports. But shouldn't we demand only the best in other things as well, like in education too?
I should also add that in corporate america, statistically how many asians are really in upper management in non-tech related companies? Not many. You think people aren't qualified for that? Doubtful. There's often a misconception about asians in corporate america. We're sometimes perceived as timid and shy and lacking leadership skills. Perhaps it's a culture thing that when speak, we don't have an affinity and have not mastered the skill of the 1:100 ratio bullshit speak that is prevalent among corporate america, in which 1 task take 100 emails,memos, status reports,meetings,and reviews to discuss what was accomplished. Some would even say this is "short-selling" yourself. But it's typically not in the culture, which unfortunately is why a lot of times you have an utterly incompetent manager leading a group of asians workaholics. Of course, these cultural gaps are not wrapped in some "affirmative action" program that you think gives us better opportunities that your corresponding caucasian peer. It just doesn't happen that way.
I have a rule of thumb when it comes to working in corporate america that I try to teach asians that want to survive in corporate america. Traditionally, first generation asians will say 1 thing for 100 things they do. In corporate america, it's more often people who are successful are those that say 100 things for every 1 thing they do. To be a successful, you should at least say 1 thing for every 1 thing you do. This is a concept that so few asians in corporate america has thus far grasped. And by no means should you ever count on any "affirmative action" program to cover any cultural gaps you may have, because it won't.
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
February 6, 2008 at 9:49 PM #149418CoronitaParticipantI am a proponent of equal rights no matter what your creed, culture, or race. Unfortunately, this is not the case anymore in America. You can have 2 educated and experienced candidates for a job, one european decent the other Asian decent, the European guy can have more experience and a degree from a better school, yet the Asian candidate gets the job due to quota regulations. This is not equal rights.
Contraman, with all due respect, I don't think Asians qualify under any type of affirmative action in any of the professions in colleges. I would be a huge proponent of dropping all affirmative action programs based on race,gender, ethnicity, but I do think doing so would lead to a dramatic increase in enrollment by asian students into engineering, mdicine, and other professions that are normally capped by quotas limiting our admissions.
As an asian, I can say that I had to work my ass off to get in an Ivy League school, more so than other peers of different ethnicity, just so I can stand out in a field of other asian applications applying to engineering. And i know some of my peers of different ethnicity had lower qualifications than me and nevertheless had less of an issue gaining admissions. Also, when I was a student, I had the opportunity to work in the admissions office, and reviewing some of the applicants, there were several cases in which asian students were turned away, simply because there was a "need" to diversify the student body, while students of other ethnicity were fast tracked, yet had lower qualifications (caucasians included). Call it diversity or quotas, but quotas don't benefit asians in general.
The long running joke is that if our society is going to have affirmative action programs, why not apply this uniformly to all aspects of our society that doesn't have equal representation. Let's start with sports. How many asians do we see plan in the NFL? Shouldn't there be an affirmative action program for under-represented asians in the NFL? I guess the same would be said about the NBA (though Yao Ming sort of shoots down that argument these days).
Anyway, you're right in that there isn't a level playing field, but you're wrong in who you think benefits from this playing field. The argument has been, that well only the best should play in sports. But shouldn't we demand only the best in other things as well, like in education too?
I should also add that in corporate america, statistically how many asians are really in upper management in non-tech related companies? Not many. You think people aren't qualified for that? Doubtful. There's often a misconception about asians in corporate america. We're sometimes perceived as timid and shy and lacking leadership skills. Perhaps it's a culture thing that when speak, we don't have an affinity and have not mastered the skill of the 1:100 ratio bullshit speak that is prevalent among corporate america, in which 1 task take 100 emails,memos, status reports,meetings,and reviews to discuss what was accomplished. Some would even say this is "short-selling" yourself. But it's typically not in the culture, which unfortunately is why a lot of times you have an utterly incompetent manager leading a group of asians workaholics. Of course, these cultural gaps are not wrapped in some "affirmative action" program that you think gives us better opportunities that your corresponding caucasian peer. It just doesn't happen that way.
I have a rule of thumb when it comes to working in corporate america that I try to teach asians that want to survive in corporate america. Traditionally, first generation asians will say 1 thing for 100 things they do. In corporate america, it's more often people who are successful are those that say 100 things for every 1 thing they do. To be a successful, you should at least say 1 thing for every 1 thing you do. This is a concept that so few asians in corporate america has thus far grasped. And by no means should you ever count on any "affirmative action" program to cover any cultural gaps you may have, because it won't.
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
February 6, 2008 at 10:18 PM #149080drunkleParticipantseems to me, the democratic party saw a great opportunity to push the limits in this election figuring that republicans would lose flat out. so, they pushed the woman or the black guy. break the american mold and all that, make history, blah blah.
yeah, edwards was one of my favorites. no bullshit “we are the world” nonsense, no family ties bullshit. simple message, clean up the corporate corruption that’s rotting the country.
ron paul too, yeah, fix the “free market” that we supposedly live under. but speaking of uncharismatic, jesus.. ron has the charisma of boiled broccoli.
asian and “hispanic” vote being racist? sure, why not. blacks are the niggers of all other peoples. even their own in america. it’s cultural, black stereotypes (and asian and hispanic) are still predominant in american minds. obama can’t and won’t change that.
and the la riots weren’t that long ago. it’s still in our collective conciousness. you honestly think some asian liquor store owner is going to be smart enough to look past his own prejudices? to be smart enough to consider history or sociological pressures? do you think he’s going to be smart enough to even consider that much of his opportunities were bought by the blood of blacks?
and hispanics… despised by blacks for competing for the same scraps? for coming in cheaper with no demands, no legal status and no standards?
yeah, race baiting happens. asians and mexicans hating on the black guy, whoo hoo. people will wake up to minorities being racist and institutional racism by whites will be given a pass. break out the champagne.
February 6, 2008 at 10:18 PM #149337drunkleParticipantseems to me, the democratic party saw a great opportunity to push the limits in this election figuring that republicans would lose flat out. so, they pushed the woman or the black guy. break the american mold and all that, make history, blah blah.
yeah, edwards was one of my favorites. no bullshit “we are the world” nonsense, no family ties bullshit. simple message, clean up the corporate corruption that’s rotting the country.
ron paul too, yeah, fix the “free market” that we supposedly live under. but speaking of uncharismatic, jesus.. ron has the charisma of boiled broccoli.
asian and “hispanic” vote being racist? sure, why not. blacks are the niggers of all other peoples. even their own in america. it’s cultural, black stereotypes (and asian and hispanic) are still predominant in american minds. obama can’t and won’t change that.
and the la riots weren’t that long ago. it’s still in our collective conciousness. you honestly think some asian liquor store owner is going to be smart enough to look past his own prejudices? to be smart enough to consider history or sociological pressures? do you think he’s going to be smart enough to even consider that much of his opportunities were bought by the blood of blacks?
and hispanics… despised by blacks for competing for the same scraps? for coming in cheaper with no demands, no legal status and no standards?
yeah, race baiting happens. asians and mexicans hating on the black guy, whoo hoo. people will wake up to minorities being racist and institutional racism by whites will be given a pass. break out the champagne.
February 6, 2008 at 10:18 PM #149349drunkleParticipantseems to me, the democratic party saw a great opportunity to push the limits in this election figuring that republicans would lose flat out. so, they pushed the woman or the black guy. break the american mold and all that, make history, blah blah.
yeah, edwards was one of my favorites. no bullshit “we are the world” nonsense, no family ties bullshit. simple message, clean up the corporate corruption that’s rotting the country.
ron paul too, yeah, fix the “free market” that we supposedly live under. but speaking of uncharismatic, jesus.. ron has the charisma of boiled broccoli.
asian and “hispanic” vote being racist? sure, why not. blacks are the niggers of all other peoples. even their own in america. it’s cultural, black stereotypes (and asian and hispanic) are still predominant in american minds. obama can’t and won’t change that.
and the la riots weren’t that long ago. it’s still in our collective conciousness. you honestly think some asian liquor store owner is going to be smart enough to look past his own prejudices? to be smart enough to consider history or sociological pressures? do you think he’s going to be smart enough to even consider that much of his opportunities were bought by the blood of blacks?
and hispanics… despised by blacks for competing for the same scraps? for coming in cheaper with no demands, no legal status and no standards?
yeah, race baiting happens. asians and mexicans hating on the black guy, whoo hoo. people will wake up to minorities being racist and institutional racism by whites will be given a pass. break out the champagne.
February 6, 2008 at 10:18 PM #149366drunkleParticipantseems to me, the democratic party saw a great opportunity to push the limits in this election figuring that republicans would lose flat out. so, they pushed the woman or the black guy. break the american mold and all that, make history, blah blah.
yeah, edwards was one of my favorites. no bullshit “we are the world” nonsense, no family ties bullshit. simple message, clean up the corporate corruption that’s rotting the country.
ron paul too, yeah, fix the “free market” that we supposedly live under. but speaking of uncharismatic, jesus.. ron has the charisma of boiled broccoli.
asian and “hispanic” vote being racist? sure, why not. blacks are the niggers of all other peoples. even their own in america. it’s cultural, black stereotypes (and asian and hispanic) are still predominant in american minds. obama can’t and won’t change that.
and the la riots weren’t that long ago. it’s still in our collective conciousness. you honestly think some asian liquor store owner is going to be smart enough to look past his own prejudices? to be smart enough to consider history or sociological pressures? do you think he’s going to be smart enough to even consider that much of his opportunities were bought by the blood of blacks?
and hispanics… despised by blacks for competing for the same scraps? for coming in cheaper with no demands, no legal status and no standards?
yeah, race baiting happens. asians and mexicans hating on the black guy, whoo hoo. people will wake up to minorities being racist and institutional racism by whites will be given a pass. break out the champagne.
February 6, 2008 at 10:18 PM #149435drunkleParticipantseems to me, the democratic party saw a great opportunity to push the limits in this election figuring that republicans would lose flat out. so, they pushed the woman or the black guy. break the american mold and all that, make history, blah blah.
yeah, edwards was one of my favorites. no bullshit “we are the world” nonsense, no family ties bullshit. simple message, clean up the corporate corruption that’s rotting the country.
ron paul too, yeah, fix the “free market” that we supposedly live under. but speaking of uncharismatic, jesus.. ron has the charisma of boiled broccoli.
asian and “hispanic” vote being racist? sure, why not. blacks are the niggers of all other peoples. even their own in america. it’s cultural, black stereotypes (and asian and hispanic) are still predominant in american minds. obama can’t and won’t change that.
and the la riots weren’t that long ago. it’s still in our collective conciousness. you honestly think some asian liquor store owner is going to be smart enough to look past his own prejudices? to be smart enough to consider history or sociological pressures? do you think he’s going to be smart enough to even consider that much of his opportunities were bought by the blood of blacks?
and hispanics… despised by blacks for competing for the same scraps? for coming in cheaper with no demands, no legal status and no standards?
yeah, race baiting happens. asians and mexicans hating on the black guy, whoo hoo. people will wake up to minorities being racist and institutional racism by whites will be given a pass. break out the champagne.
February 7, 2008 at 12:46 AM #149110EugeneParticipantMost of my friends (who have graduate degrees and make 6 figures) are willing to pay our tax burden and more to support the country. … Also, some of us are not bigoted or stupid enough to punish poor children who are unfortunate enough to have poor parents.
Amen.
My own political position is simple. Everyone deserves an equal shot at life regardless of how rich his/her parents are. It means free or heavily subsidized healthcare and education (up to the graduate level). You can’t do that without taxes. Imagine a country where a poor teenager could end up with a limp for life because he breaks his leg and he can’t afford to go to a real hospital, or where a parent must sell his kidney to send his gifted son to college. I’d rather pay 30% income tax than live there.
So, on one hand, I can see why many wealthy people choose to vote Republican (lower taxes and affordable kidneys? Cool!) I can’t blame anyone for looking after his/her own best interests. On the other hand, any Republican presidential candidate would have to be either short-sighted (if he does not see the problem with small government and reduced social programs) or immoral (if he sees the problem but chooses to ignore it). Or both.
February 7, 2008 at 12:46 AM #149368EugeneParticipantMost of my friends (who have graduate degrees and make 6 figures) are willing to pay our tax burden and more to support the country. … Also, some of us are not bigoted or stupid enough to punish poor children who are unfortunate enough to have poor parents.
Amen.
My own political position is simple. Everyone deserves an equal shot at life regardless of how rich his/her parents are. It means free or heavily subsidized healthcare and education (up to the graduate level). You can’t do that without taxes. Imagine a country where a poor teenager could end up with a limp for life because he breaks his leg and he can’t afford to go to a real hospital, or where a parent must sell his kidney to send his gifted son to college. I’d rather pay 30% income tax than live there.
So, on one hand, I can see why many wealthy people choose to vote Republican (lower taxes and affordable kidneys? Cool!) I can’t blame anyone for looking after his/her own best interests. On the other hand, any Republican presidential candidate would have to be either short-sighted (if he does not see the problem with small government and reduced social programs) or immoral (if he sees the problem but chooses to ignore it). Or both.
February 7, 2008 at 12:46 AM #149380EugeneParticipantMost of my friends (who have graduate degrees and make 6 figures) are willing to pay our tax burden and more to support the country. … Also, some of us are not bigoted or stupid enough to punish poor children who are unfortunate enough to have poor parents.
Amen.
My own political position is simple. Everyone deserves an equal shot at life regardless of how rich his/her parents are. It means free or heavily subsidized healthcare and education (up to the graduate level). You can’t do that without taxes. Imagine a country where a poor teenager could end up with a limp for life because he breaks his leg and he can’t afford to go to a real hospital, or where a parent must sell his kidney to send his gifted son to college. I’d rather pay 30% income tax than live there.
So, on one hand, I can see why many wealthy people choose to vote Republican (lower taxes and affordable kidneys? Cool!) I can’t blame anyone for looking after his/her own best interests. On the other hand, any Republican presidential candidate would have to be either short-sighted (if he does not see the problem with small government and reduced social programs) or immoral (if he sees the problem but chooses to ignore it). Or both.
February 7, 2008 at 12:46 AM #149397EugeneParticipantMost of my friends (who have graduate degrees and make 6 figures) are willing to pay our tax burden and more to support the country. … Also, some of us are not bigoted or stupid enough to punish poor children who are unfortunate enough to have poor parents.
Amen.
My own political position is simple. Everyone deserves an equal shot at life regardless of how rich his/her parents are. It means free or heavily subsidized healthcare and education (up to the graduate level). You can’t do that without taxes. Imagine a country where a poor teenager could end up with a limp for life because he breaks his leg and he can’t afford to go to a real hospital, or where a parent must sell his kidney to send his gifted son to college. I’d rather pay 30% income tax than live there.
So, on one hand, I can see why many wealthy people choose to vote Republican (lower taxes and affordable kidneys? Cool!) I can’t blame anyone for looking after his/her own best interests. On the other hand, any Republican presidential candidate would have to be either short-sighted (if he does not see the problem with small government and reduced social programs) or immoral (if he sees the problem but chooses to ignore it). Or both.
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